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List Mgmt. 2019 Trade Thread

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Watching the U18 team playing Casey Demons.

I think I want us to bundle up everything we have for Rowell. He would compliment our midfield beautifully

Our 1st (18) plus armo should do it right? :moustache:
Just needs to get concussed and do both knees in the next week and he's ours [emoji6]
 
Trout era top 25.

*Jury still out on 2016-2017

Bust
2012 - Wright (24), White (25)
2013 - Dunstan (17)
2014- Paddy (1), Goddard (21), McKenzie (22)

Middling
2013 - Acres (18) - will be a “boom” if he becomes more consistent


Boom
2011 - Ross (25)
2013 - Billings (3)
2015 - Gresham (18)

By my count
Boom: 3
Middling: 1
Bust: 6

Something that stands out is he only had two picks in the top 15 between 2011-16.
Seriously - 88 games from a Pick 17 is considered a bust?

Strange since the average games for Pick 17 over 35 drafts is only 68.

Pick 22 has averaged 44 games so McKenzie (38) is pretty much on par.
 

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Jack Martin & Adam Tomlinson anyone?

https://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-24/saints-swoop-giant-sun-in-st-kildas-sights

Tomlinson an unrestricted free agent so wouldn’t cost any picks.

Martin has limitless amount of untapped potential.

Both would be handy additions.

now we are talking. we need to use our good start and optimism to nail some targets. we should be able to wrap up tomlinson no worries given his management were keen a couple years back. which would mean we don't have to worry so much about browns age, nor carlisles back. giants will be prioritising their mids too. we'll get him i think.

martin i'm not sold on. i think long and parker are going well. i don't know where we see martin playing? would he force out someone like kent? is he a free agent?

i think we need a genuine inside mid. what can we pry out. a fit luke parker would be amazing. wines would be my wish.

we need to be mindful of not bringing in too much change.
 
Jack Martin & Adam Tomlinson anyone?

https://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-24/saints-swoop-giant-sun-in-st-kildas-sights

Tomlinson an unrestricted free agent so wouldn’t cost any picks.

Martin has limitless amount of untapped potential.

Both would be handy additions.

Personally can't stand Tomlinson. Very overrated imo. I've seen him play 1 good game and a lot of very average ones. Martin? Yes please. Isnt Shane Edwards a FA too? If so id throw coin at him too.
 
now we are talking. we need to use our good start and optimism to nail some targets. we should be able to wrap up tomlinson no worries given his management were keen a couple years back. which would mean we don't have to worry so much about browns age, nor carlisles back. giants will be prioritising their mids too. we'll get him i think.

martin i'm not sold on. i think long and parker are going well. i don't know where we see martin playing? would he force out someone like kent? is he a free agent?

i think we need a genuine inside mid. what can we pry out. a fit luke parker would be amazing. wines would be my wish.

we need to be mindful of not bringing in too much change.

Martin is absolutely perfect for us. He is capable of playing just about anywhere, running back, mid or forward. Really strong contested player & can take a high grab. I really think if he was drafted in a better development environment we’d be talking about him being one of the best young talents in the game. If we end up with a pick around 12 then we’d need to put that forward along with something else.
 
now we are talking. we need to use our good start and optimism to nail some targets. we should be able to wrap up tomlinson no worries given his management were keen a couple years back. which would mean we don't have to worry so much about browns age, nor carlisles back. giants will be prioritising their mids too. we'll get him i think.

Hasn't he been playing mostly mid recently? I don't know why we'd pick him up as a second/third tall defender, given we have Carlisle, Clavarino, Brown, Austin, Roberton, Joyce, Marsh, Battle, Wilkie all competing for spots down there already. Even if Jake and Robbo don't play again, and Brown retires, we've still got six guys who look like they could be OK or better.
 
Tomlinson would be handy and we could do an awful lot worse than Martin.

In three of his games this year he's had 16, 13, and 10 contested possessions.

Plus his name is Jack, so you know we have to get him.

We need to get every Jack in the league, just for the lols.
 
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Yeah I would take both. But I have heard we are going to press Cogniglio. That’s the one we really want.

Complete opposite approach to previous years. We are making the play aggressively with big dollars now. Previously we were hesitant. Drew things out. Didn’t really show the love, more said yeah we are keen come.
 
Yeah I would take both. But I have heard we are going to press Cogniglio. That’s the one we really want.

Complete opposite approach to previous years. We are making the play aggressively with big dollars now. Previously we were hesitant. Drew things out. Didn’t really show the love, more said yeah we are keen come.

If he leaves the Giants looks Hawks bound. Would love him though, excellent player & exactly what we need.
 
Yeah I would take both. But I have heard we are going to press Cogniglio. That’s the one we really want.

Complete opposite approach to previous years. We are making the play aggressively with big dollars now. Previously we were hesitant. Drew things out. Didn’t really show the love, more said yeah we are keen come.
Its too early in the season to get me excited mate.
 
Saints' swoop? Giant, Sun in St Kilda's sights

ST KILDA is again in the hunt for Adam Tomlinson, two years after nearly snaring the versatile Giant.

And AFL.com.au understands the club is also interested in out-of-contract Gold Coast forward Jack Martin.

The Saints are among the clubs believed to be hovering around Tomlinson, who has become a valuable player for Greater Western Sydney through defence and the wing.

The Giants are keen to keep Tomlinson and are believed to have put forward an offer to retain the unrestricted free agent, but discussions are considered unlikely to progress for now.

Tomlinson, 25, met with the Saints at the end of 2017 and was close to switching clubs.

However, his strong end to that season – he was one of the Giants' best in their preliminary final loss to Richmond – saw him remain with the club, where he was contracted through to the end of 2019.

This time, he would come at no trade cost, and given his unrestricted FA status, the Giants would not be able to match a rival's deal to keep him.

The Oakleigh Chargers product has been linked to a move back to Victoria throughout his career since joining the Giants with pick No.9 at the 2011 NAB AFL Draft.
https://www.afl.com.au/stats/stats-pro#/discover/CD_I291819/Tomlinson-Adam

Martin, too, is on the Saints' radar, with contract talks for the 24-year-old likely to start in the second half of the season.

Essendon was strongly linked to Martin at the end of last season, but he remained at Gold Coast, where he is contracted until the end of this year.

The West Australian has played 86 games since he joined the Suns as the first pick in the 2012 'mini-draft'.

The Saints sit in second position on the ladder after an excellent start to the season and appear likely to be proactive in the trade and free agency space this year.
https://www.afl.com.au/stats/stats-pro#/discover/CD_I296190/Martin-Jack

AFL.com.au reported last week speedy Swan Zak Jones, who is also out of contract this year, has been linked with the Saints.

Last year they were unable to land Dylan Shiel or Jared Polec despite significant interest in the pair but did trade for Swans premiership midfielder Dan Hannebery.

Hannebery is yet to play a game for the club as he "rebuilds" his body, and is expected to be back in the second half of the season.



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Yeah I would take both. But I have heard we are going to press Cogniglio. That’s the one we really want.

Complete opposite approach to previous years. We are making the play aggressively with big dollars now. Previously we were hesitant. Drew things out. Didn’t really show the love, more said yeah we are keen come.
Lol zero chance
 

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Yeah I would take both. But I have heard we are going to press Cogniglio. That’s the one we really want.

Complete opposite approach to previous years. We are making the play aggressively with big dollars now. Previously we were hesitant. Drew things out. Didn’t really show the love, more said yeah we are keen come.

yasssss. i would be very surprised if it comes to actuality, but its good to hear we are aggressive this time. as opposed to life under trout
 
Not sure Tomlinson is a huge need now, but he's free so I wouldn't say no.

Martin maybe now that Gresh and Billings have moved to the midfield. I'd prefer a midfielder though.

He’s been playing a lot more midfield this year. But more as a winger rather than starting in the centre bounce.

Agree regarding Tomlinson. Although I do like his versatility & he’s a running machine.
 
Not sure Tomlinson is a huge need now, but he's free so I wouldn't say no.

Martin maybe now that Gresh and Billings have moved to the midfield. I'd prefer a midfielder though.

Agreed we need quality elite midfielders and finishers like Coniglio or Martin.
 
He’s been playing a lot more midfield this year. But more as a winger rather than starting in the centre bounce.

Agree regarding Tomlinson. Although I do like his versatility & he’s a running machine.
Yeah, Martin's stats aren't that impressive, provably below Newnes. But he is good for a bit of x factor I know. Hasn't really come on like most thought, hard to know what we'd have to give up.

Not sure where we'd end up playing Tomlinson.
 
Agreed we need quality elite midfielders and finishers like Coniglio or Martin.
Well Martin is far from an elite midfielder so we'd probably have to ask ourselves whether he is worth giving up a first round pick for.

Coniglio would he ideal being a FA, but extremely unlikely.
 
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