2019 United Kingdom Election - December 12

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Bomberboyokay

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Incoming.

Jeremy Corbyn has announced that Labour is ready to back a general election now that the EU has granted a three-month Brexit delay, making a pre-Christmas poll all but certain.

With the Liberal Democrats and the Scottish National party preparing to support a one-line bill tabled by Boris Johnson’s government later on Tuesday, triggering an early poll, Corbyn said his party would also support it.

The Labour leader told the shadow cabinet: “I have consistently said that we are ready for an election and our support is subject to a no-deal Brexit being off the table.

“We have now heard from the EU that the extension of article 50 to 31 January has been confirmed, so for the next three months, our condition of taking no deal off the table has now been met.

“We will now launch the most ambitious and radical campaign for real change our country has ever seen.”

Corbyn’s party abstained on Monday when Johnson tabled a motion under the Fixed-term Parliaments Act (FTPA) to call for an election, with the shadow cabinet split over the wisdom of an early poll.

The Labour leader and his close allies have been keen to hit the campaign trail, despite the reticence of his chief whip, Nick Brown, and other key figures.

The Labour campaign group Momentum tweeted: “Labour are officially backing an election. This is the opportunity of a lifetime to put an end to the shambolic mess the Tories have made and return hope to millions. Let’s do this.”

Downing Street had said it planned to call for a 12 December general election in its one-line bill, but a No 10 source said on Tuesday it would be prepared to accept an amendment, if proposed by the Lib Dems and SNP, for an election one day earlier, on 11 December.

A Lib Dem source said the party would be willing to consider the 11 December date. The SNP said no decision had yet been taken.

The Lib Dem MP Chuka Umunna said on Tuesday that 12 December remained unacceptable to his party.

“We are not prepared to accept the 12th. If you have the 12th, it presents an opportunity for the government to try and get their withdrawal agreement bill through. We know that they have a record of going back on their promises and breaking the law, so we cannot trust them on that,” he told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme.
 

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Nice spin by Corbyn. Motion for election would have passed without their support so they were cornered. Either join the bandwagon and support the motion or reject and look cowardly.
 

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Thank you - here, have an internet point :)

Given these numbers, why is the Twitter guy above saying that it looks bad for the Tories? I am very curious about UK politics but don't yet understand much about them.
I think it is Bomber's personal Twitter account.
 

Bomberboyokay

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Johnson has taken a huge gamble, asking people to vote in the cold, dark days of early December: he is the unpopular leader of an unpopular government: indeed, at net scores of -18 and -67 they are the worst on record for a new leader and government at this stage. After nearly a decade of public sector austerity and stagnant wages, Johnson is asking the people to give the Conservatives another go. He is asking for a lot.

There are several other reasons to question the prevailing wisdom that he will make it back to No. 10 with a majority big enough to carry his Brexit deal through without further alarm. The first thing to make clear is that the electorate for a General Election is not the same as the Brexit electorate: June 2016’s Leave vote relied to some extent on very marginal voters who may well not make it back to the polls again (or, if they do, will vote for Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party). If Remain voters decide again to coalesce around Labour as their least-worst option – and there is a lot of evidence that they did just that in 2017 – the Government will be in trouble.

The Conservatives are faced with a three-pronged pincer movement that may see Leave cornered by the reinvigorated ranks of Remainers. They will almost certainly lose seats to the Scottish National Party in Scotland, and they are very likely indeed to lose wealthy, culturally liberal and very pro-Remain seats in the South of England to the resurgent Liberal Democrats. Let’s assume, very roughly but credibly, that they lose seven or eight of their Scottish MPs. And then another thirteen or so fall to the Liberal Democrats. That’s twenty – or a few more – losses before the Conservatives have even made a start.

If he is to reach a bare absolute majority Johnson then has to make up all of those, and then win ten more seats, from Labour. Granted, Labour are wallowing low in the polls at the moment, but this seems like a huge ask. It means winning a seat such as Reading East – a constituency that Labour won from the Conservatives last time, is experiencing rapid demographic change as younger and more liberal voters move out from London to take advantage of its rapid train link into the capital, and one where it’s estimated that more than 60% of the electors voted Remain in 2016.
 

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I have absolutely no idea will happen here, but going to an election having not delivered Brexit and with the Faragist fox on the loose still makes things tight for the Tories.
 

JeanLucGoddard

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Yeah I know, just like winding up Blubberboy.

Pretty sad that labour et al begged for EU citizens to vote. Clear sign they know they’re cooked.
Yeah I dunno, the SNP were consistent in their position (it was allowed in the indyref) and I'd have to check but think is Labour policy pre-existing.
 

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