Club Focus 2020 Club Draft Needs

[Virgin Dog]

Freo should give a red hot crack and bring Patty Cripps home

As much as I'd love to see a midfield of Fyfe + Cripps, I'd say short of some insanely huge scandal at Carlton, there's about a 0.01% chance Cripps leaves Carlton in the next 7-8 years. Bit like Fyfe sticking with Freo, the team is built around him and he's developed a cult following with Carlton. He'd be mad to abandon ship unless he went to the Tigers to chase a flag or something like that, but even then he doesn't seem the type

 

[Northernsoul74]

Almost none tbh - he trained with the club over the preseason but that's all I've heard. I doubt we'd be watching him too closely

I think we’ve just assumed we won’t have a pick in that range due to JUH so no point chatting about him.

 

[Smythe]

I think we’ve just assumed we won’t have a pick in that range due to JUH so no point chatting about him.

I think any club (if he was linked through academy to them) would be happy to fork out for him them use their last pick or two at the end of the draft. Pretty sure thats what will happen in that area (the draft) for the dogs, and im also sure they wont bat an eyelid

 

[Virgin Dog]

I think we’ve just assumed we won’t have a pick in that range due to JUH so no point chatting about him.

Depends what happens with the remainder of the season, but I can see us going one of three ways:

Option A - go all in, trading this year's 1st and 2021 1st, plus possibly even more, to try get ahead of JUH bid
Option B - trade out completely for points and embrace our academy picks
Option C - match the JUH bid, then live trade back in

 

[Smythe]

As much as I'd love to see a midfield of Fyfe + Cripps, I'd say short of some insanely huge scandal at Carlton, there's about a 0.01% chance Cripps leaves Carlton in the next 7-8 years. Bit like Fyfe sticking with Freo, the team is built around him and he's developed a cult following with Carlton. He'd be mad to abandon ship unless he went to the Tigers to chase a flag or something like that, but even then he doesn't seem the type

lets say any amount of future picks were available to be traded.....i would love to see what Carlton asking price would be, and would love to see how much Freo would try to compensate Carlton with. Whatever Freo offers money wise, Carlton would match, so it would come down to draft picks. It would be funny to watch

 

[Smythe]

Depends what happens with the remainder of the season, but I can see us going one of three ways:

Option A - go all in, trading this year's 1st and 2021 1st, plus possibly even more, to try get ahead of JUH bid
Option B - trade out completely for points and embrace our academy picks
Option C - match the JUH bid, then live trade back in

option A is already out of the question. There is a massive chance he gets bid on at 1. has not happened before but still a big chance, if that does happen you cannot get ahead of the bid. There would be no chance trying to do that and it would be silly of a club to throw so much at trying to pick up someone at 1 or 2 before JUH. You would have to give up so much. Would you not be happy enough with JUH and 1 or 2 others this year. Dont forget what has happened this year, there will be more gems found near the tail of the draft then ever before due to not enough exposure. There is no way a club would see that as a feasible or viable option

 

[andleanback]

option A is already out of the question. There is a massive chance he gets bid on at 1. has not happened before but still a big chance, if that does happen you cannot get ahead of the bid. There would be no chance trying to do that and it would be silly of a club to throw so much at trying to pick up someone at 1 or 2 before JUH. You would have to give up so much. Would you not be happy enough with JUH and 1 or 2 others this year. Dont forget what has happened this year, there will be more gems found near the tail of the draft then ever before due to not enough exposure. There is no way a club would see that as a feasible or viable option

If I was a club like north Melbourne I would definitely try to get up high and bid for Ugle-Hagan. He would be perfect for them, if he turns into a generational player gives their club relevance. Makes people want to turn on the tv and watch them, prime time slots etc etc.

 

[Smythe]

If I was a club like north Melbourne I would definitely try to get up high and bid for Ugle-Hagan. He would be perfect for them, if he turns into a generational player gives their club relevance. Makes people want to turn on the tv and watch them, prime time slots etc etc.

here is a question for you, if JoeDirt leaves, and you get compo, would you like to see essendon go for him somehow, or try for one of thilthorpe, mcdonald or callow. Depending on the compo, you may be in a position to get Baldwin and 1 of the FF to rectify your forward half talls

 

[andleanback]

here is a question for you, if JoeDirt leaves, and you get compo, would you like to see essendon go for him somehow, or try for one of thilthorpe, mcdonald or callow

Depending on where essendon finish...I’d like to think we’d trade up (we might not have to) to get one of thilthorpe/ baldwin to partner jones in the long term.

 

[Virgin Dog]

lets say any amount of future picks were available to be traded.....i would love to see what Carlton asking price would be, and would love to see how much Freo would try to compensate Carlton with. Whatever Freo offers money wise, Carlton would match, so it would come down to draft picks. It would be funny to watch

A Cripps trade would be incredible to see unfold. The price would be eyewatering. And just imagine the melts on the Freo and Carlton boards watching journos spitting out false stories about what they claim is happening behind the scenes

 

[Virgin Dog]

option A is already out of the question. There is a massive chance he gets bid on at 1. has not happened before but still a big chance, if that does happen you cannot get ahead of the bid. There would be no chance trying to do that and it would be silly of a club to throw so much at trying to pick up someone at 1 or 2 before JUH. You would have to give up so much. Would you not be happy enough with JUH and 1 or 2 others this year. Dont forget what has happened this year, there will be more gems found near the tail of the draft then ever before due to not enough exposure. There is no way a club would see that as a feasible or viable option

Option A is the least likely to happen anyway.

I doubt any club would bid on JUH at 1. I think it was Twomey who was saying he couldn't see a club doing it because when you finish down the bottom, you sell a fantasy to your fans about how the guy you take at Pick 1 is going to lift your club from the bottom and deliver promise. Like Walsh at Carlton. If someone bids on JUH, we inevitably match and suddenly they're left with next best.

He's arguably the number 1 talent, but I can definitely see the bid not coming until the 3-5 range. Last year Green looked like the clear 3rd best in the draft (I personally felt he was better than Anderson), but he lasted until Pick 10. The way these things unfold is hard to predict.

Would rather see us trade for higher value in picks to pay for the bid, then shift whatever picks we can to 2021, even knowing that we will get shafted thanks to 2020 picks looking like they'll be far less valuable than any other year. I don't care about getting another elite talent - JUH is the most exciting prospect the Dogs have had in a long time, and we have the option to pick up Raak and Macpherson later in the draft anyway

 

[briztoon]

option A is already out of the question. There is a massive chance he gets bid on at 1. has not happened before but still a big chance, if that does happen you cannot get ahead of the bid. There would be no chance trying to do that and it would be silly of a club to throw so much at trying to pick up someone at 1 or 2 before JUH. You would have to give up so much. Would you not be happy enough with JUH and 1 or 2 others this year. Dont forget what has happened this year, there will be more gems found near the tail of the draft then ever before due to not enough exposure. There is no way a club would see that as a feasible or viable option

If, and it’s a big if.

If the dogs could somehow trade for picks 3 and 5, if I was the Gold Coast, I’d trade pick 1 and the first pick of round 2 to dogs.

GC would hope to get DGB and Elijah Hollands. Or DGB and either of Trew or O’Driscoll.

 

[Gosaints12]

Depends what happens with the remainder of the season, but I can see us going one of three ways:

Option A - go all in, trading this year's 1st and 2021 1st, plus possibly even more, to try get ahead of JUH bid
Option B - trade out completely for points and embrace our academy picks
Option C - match the JUH bid, then live trade back in

Option D - Trade 2020 first for two firsts in the 2021 Draft. Wait for JUH bid and then Trade back into 2020 first round with one of those picks.

 

[Smythe]

Option D - Trade 2020 first for two firsts in the 2021 Draft. Wait for JUH bid and then Trade back into 2020 first round with one of those picks.

they would have to wait almost to the end of the trading period for that to happen as no one has 2 firsts next year yet. they would have to hope someone gets 2 firsts and they are in the right areas of the draft order and points index to see if that happens. i mean no offense, but that is like throwing fruit loops on the grass and waiting for a unicorn to come and eat them then trying to catch it. The way i see it is (pure hypothetical) pick 1 Gold Coast, pick 2 possibly adelaide, pick 3 possibly sydney or fremantle. adelaide may try to bid for him then grab Thilthorpe if it falls through. Sydney, if they don't land Daniher will defininately bid for him if adelaide have not, and if none of them have at that point then freo would of course have a crack. bulldogs would have to trade up to 2 or 3 to get ahead of the bid. and to do that they would have to sell a farm to do so, and for what. They are going to get 1 of, if not, the best talent in this years draft, and all from not finishing last. pretty sure they will be happy with that outcome. Virgin Dog mentioned that Twomey said he doubts a club would bid at 1 knowing you have to sell to your club the guy you got is the one you want and is your future, that has been said for over 10 years and i agree whole heartedly, but if it could happen one year, this year is the year it might. (just noting that i personally dont think it will) but it might, what do gold coast have to sell to their 7 members...nothing apart from saying, we tried to land this awesome talent and steal him from another club but couldn't do it so with our pick we grab the best talent in the nation that isnt linked to another club. We wanted both these players but can only have one, both would play a role in our young clubs future so we tried to steal that one from the bulldogs but it didnt work however so we chose player x. this year....that would not be a hard sell to their fan/s.

 

[Gosaints12]

If, and it’s a big if.

If the dogs could somehow trade for picks 3 and 5, if I was the Gold Coast, I’d trade pick 1 and the first pick of round 2 to dogs.

GC would hope to get DGB and Elijah Hollands. Or DGB and either of Trew or O’Driscoll.

Saints hold 5. There’s no one on you’re list that I’m betting you’re willing to trade that for. Players like Dunkley, Bont, Macrae would be an appropriate.

 

[Oakleigh Roo]

If I was a club like north Melbourne I would definitely try to get up high and bid for Ugle-Hagan. He would be perfect for them, if he turns into a generational player gives their club relevance. Makes people want to turn on the tv and watch them, prime time slots etc etc.

I would absolutely love to have JUH in our colours. Best key position talent I’ve seen in some time. Do you think North are a chance to possibly get him in our colours? Just curious, I vaguely remember you preferring other KPF’s earlier in the year over Jamarra. What was the reason for the change of heart? Definitely glad you’re now on board!

 

[andleanback]

I would absolutely love to have JUH in our colours. Best key position talent I’ve seen in some time. Do you think North are a chance to possibly get him in our colours? Just curious, I vaguely remember you preferring other KPF’s earlier in the year over Jamarra. What was the reason for the change of heart? Definitely glad you’re now on board!

I still rate Thilthorpe over Ugle-Hagan currently, I just think for north he would bring so much marketability and excitement to a team that doesn’t really have that. Pair him with Thomas and larkey in the forward line and you suddenly have something pretty special developing.

 

[Oakleigh Roo]

I still rate Thilthorpe over Ugle-Hagan currently, I just think for north he would bring so much marketability and excitement to a team that doesn’t really have that. Pair him with Thomas and larkey in the forward line and you suddenly have something pretty special developing.

I’ve heard that the Bulldogs are very worried that he may get bid on at pick 1. It will cause them to go into a severe deficit into 2021. Interested to see how it plays out. We have the capital to move up if we want to.
And Thilthorpe looks very good. Has a huge motor and can kick goals on both feet. I really like him. I definitely think he has the body to be ready from day 1. Because of his attributes and size. But I think the ceiling on Jamarra is a little higher.

 

[andleanback]

I’ve heard that the Bulldogs are very worried that he may get bid on at pick 1. It will cause them to go into a severe deficit into 2021. Interested to see how it plays out. We have the capital to move up if we want to.
And Thilthorpe looks very good. Has a huge motor and can kick goals on both feet. I really like him. I definitely think he has the body to be ready from day 1. Because of his attributes and size. But I think the ceiling on Jamarra is a little higher.

Yeah he definitely has the most talent, I would’ve loved to see how he performed at champs against the best defenders, that may have changed my mind.

 

[Oakleigh Roo]

Yeah he definitely has the most talent, I would’ve loved to see how he performed at champs against the best defenders, that may have changed my mind.

Mate, we have been absolutely robbed of watching the carnival and the development of the under 18s kids this season. I’ve missed this more than I’ve missed the AFL and playing local footy myself this year. It’s been so disappointing.

 

[philthy05]

I suspect juh wont get bid at pick 1 purely because the team with pick 1 will wants to sell the hope to their fans that they got the best player.

picks 2-3 I reckon.

 

[briztoon]

I’ve heard that the Bulldogs are very worried that he may get bid on at pick 1. It will cause them to go into a severe deficit into 2021. Interested to see how it plays out. We have the capital to move up if we want to.
And Thilthorpe looks very good. Has a huge motor and can kick goals on both feet. I really like him. I definitely think he has the body to be ready from day 1. Because of his attributes and size. But I think the ceiling on Jamarra is a little higher.

Exactly how much capital do you have?

It’s hard to see your 2020 and 2021 first rounders getting you in to the top 8 this year. Unless you don’t make finals this year, and the team you trade with believes you’re not a finals team next year either.

 

[Smythe]

Exactly how much capital do you have?

It’s hard to see your 2020 and 2021 first rounders getting you in to the top 8 this year. Unless you don’t make finals this year, and the team you trade with believes you’re not a finals team next year either.

they do have melbournes first rounder this year too remember

 

[Virgin Dog]

I’ve heard that the Bulldogs are very worried that he may get bid on at pick 1. It will cause them to go into a severe deficit into 2021. Interested to see how it plays out. We have the capital to move up if we want to.
And Thilthorpe looks very good. Has a huge motor and can kick goals on both feet. I really like him. I definitely think he has the body to be ready from day 1. Because of his attributes and size. But I think the ceiling on Jamarra is a little higher.

Do the Roos really want JUH if they have a pick that high? I can understand Thilthorpe, but why would they want another Key Forward? I'd have thought Phillips, Thilthorpe, Hollands, etc. would be more enticing

 

[briztoon]

they do have melbournes first rounder this year too remember

My bad.

I thought it was a Bulldogs supporter making that post.