Stocker
How about Stocker??
Brings something we don't have. Mongrel.
At the moment looking like a bolter...
How about Stocker??
Brings something we don't have. Mongrel.
At the moment looking like a bolter...
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2020 Consensus 22: name the team FFS
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What do you mean Fisher doesn't have that capacity? He's played much more time starting in the centre than Setterfield has.
Kennedy should definitely be an option in the midfield poll, and he's missing.
Not counting out Stocker at all, he could be in (this is so hard, which is fantastic).
But he's not a wingman. I'm pretty adamant that we need at least one true wingman.
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Gibbons probably starts Round 1 but doesn’t end up being best 22 by the end of the year as he will get overtaken by the likes of Stocker, Dow and LOB. I know they will play different positions to Gibbons but others will move eg Stocker comes in and plays half back and SPS moves onto a wing.
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JuddgementDay
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The lineup is looking pretty strong hey!
But, I'm also impressed with the players that missed out, we have quite a few capable emergencies
We are definitely in for a fun year, with real competition for spots for a change
You'd better believe it! Tenacity > talent.
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You're right, I've added Kennedy. Somehow missed him...
As it stands, Fisher is the emergency forward. If he (or Newman, for that matter) get named in the 22 for the midfield group, the vacant emergency spot will be filled by the next highest voted player in that line. ie if Fisher is named on the bench for the midfield group then Kennedy (33 votes) is promoted to FWD EMG.
In the event of a tie, I'll consider votes for other lines. As an example, Newnes has received 6 votes prior to the mid voting while Stocker only received 3 so if it came down to those two then Newnes would get the nod. The same logic has Levi penciled in as ruck-capable emergency as he's received 25 votes across fwd and def so will undoubtedly be the next highest player after Kreuzer.
Are you questioning the tenacity of Fisher, Dow, Newnes, Stocker, Kennedy?
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I'll probably compile and post the reserves 22 from those who miss out, dare say it'll be a decent looking team!The lineup is looking pretty strong hey!
But, I'm also impressed with the players that missed out, we have quite a few capable emergencies
We are definitely in for a fun year, with real competition for spots for a change
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A better example is currently Newnes & Gibbons each have 12 mid votes, making them the 7th ranked mid. Newnes has an additional 6 votes across def & fwd while Gibbons has 12, meaning Gibbons would get the bench spot while Newnes becomes an emergency.
Fisher, Dow, Stocker, Kennedy - yes - fitness being a key factor. Newnes is competing for a different position.
Tenacity and fitness are not the same thing.
And I would argue that Newnes is competing for a position with Gibbons. While Newnes is a true wingman, Gibbons won't be playing inside. They're battling for either the 6th or 7th midfield spot.
Not the same thing, true, but I'd argue that one is a prerequisite for the other. We need players with repeat efforts. Wait and see with Newnes - I don't have him as best 22, but I also doubt he was recruited to play VFL.
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Competing with Betts, O'Brien, Cuningham, Martin, Murphy, Newnes, Fisher and some of the new draftees for a spot. He'll get some games, but he's in for a positional battle.
Competing with JSOS for that bench spot. He'd be in the 23-26 bracket for selections at this stage IMO, with Dow being in a similar predicament.
Good for the team that we've got such developing talent on the fringes of the side.
I think Jack gets picked in the forward 7, while Stocker is battling for one of the mid spots.
Interesting exercise on the mids. I reckon there are 5 certainties and then about 8 guys competing for the next spot or two. Will be interesting to see who makes the spot their own this summer.
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I don't think we'll have a forward 7. There'll be 4 permanent forwards, and the rest will rotate.
Jack needs to be able to support Cripps in the midfield if he plays, and Stocker needs to be able to be a solid forward target if he plays. Kennedy is the backup after those two, and also for McGovern.
JuddgementDay
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Maybe in the real team selection there may be two spots; but according to this poll, we have 6 clear mids and only one position up for grab between LOB, Newnes and Gibbons
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I think the poll has it right with those six, and even the last position being up for grabs between one of these three hard running types seems right to me.
Good stuff bigfooty
Had a better second half of the year than Fish, Dow or Kennedy, pre season form will decide a lot of spots come Rd1.
I’d actually have Gibbons on the hff in place of Cunners who to mine hasn’t earnt his spot yet, has great traits but hasn’t done it consistently yet and Gibbons owned that spot 2nd half of the year.
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Gibbons is a must in the team..has a bit of a desperado vibe about him, tackles hard, has some tricks too.
Good back up option for the coach to use in half time speeches as well..."players like gibbo waited 5 *en years to get on a senior list!! You want to be that guy!?!? ***breaks clipboard in half***"
Good back up option for the coach to use in half time speeches as well..."players like gibbo waited 5 *en years to get on a senior list!! You want to be that guy!?!? ***breaks clipboard in half***"
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Crippa
Murph
Walsh
Setterfield and newnes on wings
Stocker and Gibbo on bench
wow that’s hard.
massive apologies to Ed
Murph
Walsh
Setterfield and newnes on wings
Stocker and Gibbo on bench
wow that’s hard.
massive apologies to Ed
Yeh, FWIW I think Fisher is a clear stand-out to make it 6 locked too. As per my vote. But he's the first one an argument could be made against, the first 5 are all picking themselves. Stocker, Dow, Newnes, LOB, even Kennedy will have to put their cases forward.
