Opinion 2020 Draft #2: 1/9/22/23/40/80 (2021 + Melb 2nd, Haw 4th, Freo 4th)

[Deaneus!]

KEY DATES

Oct 30 – Nov 6: AFL Free Agency Period
November 4 – 12: AFL Trade Period
November 20: List Lodgment 1
November 27: List Lodgment 2
November 30: AFL Draft Nominations close
w/c December 7: NAB AFL Draft and Rookie Draft (exact date to be confirmed in due course)
Mid-December: Final List Lodgment & TPP estimates

As God is my witness, finding anything useful on the AFL.com.au site is practically impossible, may whoever designed it burn in hell.​

 

[DJ75]

So it's actually a super seven, same as the much-hyped 2018 year.

JUH
McDonald
Hollands
Campbell
DGB
Phillips
Thilthorpe

I think so.

 

[Hodgy]

OK, my attempt at a PlayStation trade. im assuming that rumors on Essendon being really keen on McDonald and NM wanting an extra top 10 pick are accurate.

Essendon picks 6,7 & 8
NM picks 2 & 12
Ade picks 1 & 9

becomes

Essendon picks 1 & 12 (possibly McDonald & O’Driscoll)
NM picks 7,8 & 9 (possibly Perkins, Bruhn & Cox/Reid)
Ade picks 2 & 6 (possibly Holland’s & Tillthorpe)

 

[Mutineer]

mock draft based on needs says we take RT surprise surprise
Finlay McRae at 9 ahead of brunn interesting prob because 189 cm midfielder.

based on mock draft poulter and Powell or carol wount make it to our start second round pick

Must be some good fertiliser Finlay's been putting in his footy boots these last few weeks

 

[Danger_zone]

So it's actually a super seven, same as the much-hyped 2018 year.

JUH
McDonald
Hollands
Campbell
DGB
Phillips
Thilthorpe

This years draft (or last for that matter) doesn't even come close to the hype around the 2018 super draft. All these talks of generational talents in Luko, Rank, King Bros, Rozee, B Smith and Walsh.

I feel this years draft pool will be very good (like last years), just not exceptional.

 

[Chase13]

Must be some good fertiliser Finlay's been putting in his footy boots these last few weeks

pick 1 is for best player in draft.
Hamish has a draft order he sticks with and does not deviate from, his mantra, that’s why we bid a lot on other players.

Based on that is RT on top of his list? I suggest not

Going to be LM or EH.

shifter basically said EH best player in draft, not worried about acl.

We have to take him, and if we do Cox may slide to us, and he may end up best tall

 

[Mutineer]

pick 1 is for best player in draft.
Hamish has a draft order he sticks with and does not deviate from, his mantra, that’s why we bid a lot on other players.

Based on that is RT on top of his list? I suggest not

Going to be LM or EH.

shifter basically said EH best player in draft, not worried about acl.

We have to take him, and if we do Cox may slide to us, and he may end up best tall

And that's relevant to Finlay Macrae? How?

 

[GrommoT]

So if it’s changed in 2-3 years what’s to stop it changing again?

Hope so ... this trend of mostly running, scrimmaging, rugby-like play is fugly-as to me.

 

[maxlilly]

Let's say that Bruhn was available at 9 and we drafted him, and then Carroll was still available at pick 14.
Would you trade pick 22, 23 and the Melb 2nd round for 14 and Collingwood's 2021 1st?

I really haven't seen much of Carroll to make a call on him
Collingwoods first next year would be nice as I reckon they will be lucky to make the 8 next year

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

This absolute bullshit about players not winning a Premiership whether they be a tall or a mid or any other bloody role....1 man does not constitute a Premiership winning TEAM. It is a totally irrelevant argument to put forward.

I know.

 

[DJ75]

Twomey suggesting we might bid on Reef McInnes at pick 9.
Sounds like we are putting a little pressure on for a trade. I like it.

 

[ams4crows]

Say we pick McDonald at Pick 1 and Pick 9 rolls around and Thilthorpe is still there do we
A. Pick Thilthorpe
B. Trade it for a teens pick and a 1st next year
C. Pick a Midfielder
D. Pick a different tall
E. A Hamish speical

 

[GrommoT]

Looks good. Would vFL tell us not to bid on JUH?

Would we tell the ∀FL to GTFO?

 

[LoBu]

This years draft (or last for that matter) doesn't even come close to the hype around the 2018 super draft. All these talks of generational talents in Luko, Rank, King Bros, Rozee, B Smith and Walsh.

I feel this years draft pool will be very good (like last years), just not exceptional.

Correct. Probably for a number of factors:

• the Vic kids haven't played
• JUH is NGA
• Campbell Academy
• Hollands ACL
• Thilthorpe sliding (OP)

How can anybody hype up this?

 

[Crow till I die]

Say we pick McDonald at Pick 1 and Pick 9 rolls around and Thilthorpe is still there do we
A. Pick Thilthorpe
B. Pick Thilthorpe
C. Pick Thilthorpe
D. Pick Thilthorpe
E. Pick Thilthorpe

FTFY

 

[LoBu]

pick 1 is for best player in draft.
Hamish has a draft order he sticks with and does not deviate from, his mantra, that’s why we bid a lot on other players.

Based on that is RT on top of his list? I suggest not

Going to be LM or EH.

shifter basically said EH best player in draft, not worried about acl.

We have to take him, and if we do Cox may slide to us, and he may end up best tall

I think it is likely that we have a couple of scenarios we are looking at:

1. If Thilthorpe slides to 9, or we can get up to 6 and is still there, we take Hollands 1. Problem is this is a risk as we have to pull the trigger on Hollands.
2. Take McDonald 1, slide 9 down to 12/ 14 and tried to get into next years Collingwood pick, take O'Driscoll - safe option.

If option 1, we mess up the draft by picking JUH and Campbell, knocking out picks like 26,33,41 out of the draft (WB), Sydney have to trade out too.

Thilthorpe definitely looking like sliding, a flight risk, OP issues, talks about the crows like 'us', etc, didn't improve 2020 (still impressive), doesn't have a position, lots of talent in top 7-10, not a Victorian, etc.

 

[WeedsMullet84]

mock draft based on needs says we take RT surprise surprise
Finlay McRae at 9 ahead of brunn interesting prob because 189 cm midfielder.

based on mock draft poulter and Powell or carol wount make it to our start second round pick

Yeah this seemed to be just a mock draft of where they think players will actually get picked up, not based on 'needs' at all.

Sydney definitely need a DGB type, and we realistically have a FWD/RUC already developing in Himmelberg. If we were looking at 'Needs' we'd take McDonald as an eventual Tex replacement, or Hollands as quality through the midfield that we desperately 'need'

 

[WeedsMullet84]

I think it is likely that we have a couple of scenarios we are looking at:

1. If Thilthorpe slides to 9, or we can get up to 6 and is still there, we take Hollands 1. Problem is this is a risk as we have to pull the trigger on Hollands.
2. Take McDonald 1, slide 9 down to 12/ 14 and tried to get into next years Collingwood pick, take O'Driscoll - safe option.

If option 1, we mess up the draft by picking JUH and Campbell, knocking out picks like 26,33,41 out of the draft (WB), Sydney have to trade out too.

Thilthorpe definitely looking like sliding, a flight risk, OP issues, talks about the crows like 'us', etc, didn't improve 2020 (still impressive), doesn't have a position, lots of talent in top 7-10, not a Victorian, etc.

I mentioned this in one of my previous posts. Who we take at our first pick will tell us a lot about how the rest of our Draft might go. If we take Hollands with our first i reckon we think we're in with a chance to get him if he slides.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I like Cooke and Pedlar and was hoping we could get them with pick 22 and 23
I was thinking Bruhn at 9

Yep - it might be if Bruhn is there (or another drifter from top bracket ) we use pick 9 , but if not we trade and slide

 

[Jeffcrowe]

He's probably not in some fantastic five ratings because of his size and perhaps they downgrade him slightly because he doesn't get as many possessions as some other midfielders.....but it's what he does with those possessions that makes him a very special player, short kicks are precise low flying darts and his long kicks are precise uber penetrating low flying missiles.

He’s also as tough and aggressive as they come with a real early burst of speed

 

[Rags_118]

OK, my attempt at a PlayStation trade. im assuming that rumors on Essendon being really keen on McDonald and NM wanting an extra top 10 pick are accurate.

Just needs a bit more balance:

Essendon picks 6,7 & 8
NM picks 2 & 12
Ade picks 1 & 9

becomes

Essendon picks 1, 12 (possibly McDonald & O’Driscoll)
NM picks 7, 8 & 9 (possibly Perkins, Bruhn & Cox/Reid)
Ade picks 2 & 6 (possibly Holland’s & Tillthorpe)

Just needs a bit more balance:

Essendon picks 6,7 & 8
NM picks 2, 12 & 30
Ade picks 1 & 9

becomes

Essendon picks 1, 12 & 30 (possibly McDonald, O’Driscoll & ???)
NM picks 7, 8 & 9 (possibly Perkins, Bruhn & Cox/Reid)
Ade picks 2 & 6 (possibly Holland’s & Tillthorpe)

Make it happen!

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Say we pick McDonald at Pick 1 and Pick 9 rolls around and Thilthorpe is still there do we
A. Pick Thilthorpe
B. Trade it for a teens pick and a 1st next year
C. Pick a Midfielder
D. Pick a different tall
E. A Hamish speical

Pick Thilthorpe

could be put forward structure for 12 years and Thilthorpe good ruck back up as well

pick 9 - he’s a good pick there

 

[Crow till I die]

He’s also as tough and aggressive as they come with a real early burst of speed

well rest easy as it is very unlikely us or north will bid and Sydney get not only Campbell but also a very good chance McDonald too..how's that for a draft haul for not even finishing bottom

 

[Mutineer]

He’s also as tough and aggressive as they come with a real early burst of speed

Endurance needs some work but, think he starts his AFL career half forward or half back....would be a real weapon off half back with his speed, take the game on dare.....and that bazooka left boot.

 

[Thetrader15]

Twomey suggesting we might bid on Reef McInnes at pick 9.
Sounds like we are putting a little pressure on for a trade. I like it.

Just need him to say we might put a bid on Campbell after JUH too.

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Just need him to say we might put a bid on Campbell after JUH too.

Ughhhhhh

I'm reaaaaallly hoping that after this Draft people can do away with the 'bidding on players' outside of a talent order theories.