Opinion 2020 Draft #2: 1/9/22/23/40/80 (2021 + Melb 2nd, Haw 4th, Freo 4th)

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[Murray2503]

I swear before covid, Phillips was touted as the number 1 pick

Probably still is the number 1 pick tbh. I want us to take McDonsld at 1 as we need a KPF urgently but if we could somehow manage to nab Phillips at pick 5 (if we do a swap with gc) I would be ecstatic.

 

[arsene wenger1]

That’s it so many unanswered questions this season, everything feels a little robbed and this draft is more of a lottery due to the limited football 75% of the kids have played. We so need to see at least one vic country vs vic metro match to see how the players have adapted to COVID lockdown

Agreed

 

[Crow till I die]

just as an aside, I can't access the tweet or any other tweets on the forum..is there a setting I need to trigger -it just started happening in the last couple of days

 

[Murray2503]

IF it is OP, and I say IF because I'm not sure what actual confirmation we've had on it other than the Swans list manager mentioning it, and the rumour floating around on Big Footy.

It's interesting that Thilthorpe may slide to Essendon, who've been dealing with a KPP with OP for years. Wonder whether they would avoid Thilthorpe like the plague or whether they'd back themselves in to rehab him.

Interesting question. I have either North, Hawthorn or Essendon most likely taking Thilthorpe.

 

[Disco Fox]

My guess is that he'll still be there at the GC pick.

I do wonder whether the homesickness considerations will factor into things a bit more this year with Covid. I'm sure they wouldn't carry much weight anyway, but I just wonder if clubs will be a bit more conservative if anything pops up in Psych evaluations.

Good that Hollands confirmed yesterday he's been boarding at Caulfield Grammar for 2 years, so would have no issues with homesickness, and probably has family here anyway through his mum.

And don't forget that he played with Fischer McAsey

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Fischer Mcasey

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at Caulfield Grammar - McAsey was his captain.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

just as an aside, I can't access the tweet or any other tweets on the forum..is there a setting I need to trigger -it just started happening in the last couple of days

If you click on the tweet, does it take you to twitter ?

 

[Murray2503]

just as an aside, I can't access the tweet or any other tweets on the forum..is there a setting I need to trigger -it just started happening in the last couple of days

Download Twitter through the app store and log into it. Will automatically link from here.

 

[Maggsy]

If the crows are legitimately only taking 4 picks and we believe that Newchurch and Borlase are two of them, I just can't see a way where we aren't trading picks 9, 22 + 23 for one really high pick in 2020 draft (I have used pick 5 below) and another 1st for 2021.

I personally was really hoping to add 6-7 new faces in 2020 draft, but I understand the list squeezes (plus opportunity to land Hately) have stopped that.

Still, if we end up with;
Pick 1: Logan McDonald / Riley Thilthorpe (FWD)
Pick 5: Elijah Hollands / Tanner Brahn / Will Phillips (MID)
Pick 40: Tariek Newchurch (FWD/Wing)
Pick 55: James Borlase (DEF)
PSD: Jackson Hately

6

Jackson Hately

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23

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191cm

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85kg

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Mid

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15.3

4star

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8.5

3star

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6.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.7

3star

D

14.2

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K

8.4

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5.8

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4.8

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0.4

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17.2

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8.6

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8.6

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5.6

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3.0

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0.8

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(MID)

PLUS Set up for (a stronger) 2021 draft with: 2x 1st Round picks, 2x 2nd round picks, 1x 3rd round pick, 2x 4th round picks.

That's a pretty strong mixture of additions really, PLUS puts us in a strong position for 2021. Remember, no one rebuilds from ONE draft.

 

[hey shorty]

Probably still is the number 1 pick tbh. I want us to take McDonsld at 1 as we need a KPF urgently but if we could somehow manage to nab Phillips at pick 5 (if we do a swap with gc) I would be ecstatic.

Hes definetly the safe pick at 1 IMO

 

[Thetrader15]

Why bother ??

So he's lazy and homesick...this is getting better and better!

 

[hey shorty]

If the crows are legitimately only taking 4 picks and we believe that Newchurch and Borlase are two of them, I just can't see a way where we aren't trading picks 9, 22 + 23 for one really high pick in 2020 draft (I have used pick 5 below) and another 1st for 2021.

I personally was really hoping to add 6-7 new faces in 2020 draft, but I understand the list squeezes (plus opportunity to land Hately) have stopped that.

Still, if we end up with;
Pick 1: Logan McDonald / Riley Thilthorpe (FWD)
Pick 5: Elijah Hollands / Tanner Brahn / Will Phillips (MID)
Pick 40: Tariek Newchurch (FWD/Wing)
Pick 55: James Borlase (DEF)
PSD: Jackson Hately

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Jackson Hately

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23

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191cm

Wt

85kg

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Mid

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D

15.3

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.7

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

5.8

3star

M

4.8

4star

T

1.4

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CL

0.4

3star

D

17.2

5star

K

8.6

4star

HB

8.6

5star

M

5.6

5star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.8

3star

(MID)

PLUS Set up for (a stronger) 2021 draft with: 2x 1st Round picks, 2x 2nd round picks, 1x 3rd round pick, 2x 4th round picks.

That's a pretty strong mixture of additions really, PLUS puts us in a strong position for 2021. Remember, no one rebuilds from ONE draft.

I think itll be 4 + the NGA guys

 

[Mutineer]

Hes definetly the safe pick at 1 IMO

About as safe as Archie Perkins?

 

[Vader]

If the crows are legitimately only taking 4 picks and we believe that Newchurch and Borlase are two of them, I just can't see a way where we aren't trading picks 9, 22 + 23 for one really high pick in 2020 draft (I have used pick 5 below) and another 1st for 2021.

I personally was really hoping to add 6-7 new faces in 2020 draft, but I understand the list squeezes (plus opportunity to land Hately) have stopped that.

Still, if we end up with;
Pick 1: Logan McDonald / Riley Thilthorpe (FWD)
Pick 5: Elijah Hollands / Tanner Brahn / Will Phillips (MID)
Pick 40: Tariek Newchurch (FWD/Wing)
Pick 55: James Borlase (DEF)
PSD: Jackson Hately

6

Jackson Hately

Age

23

Ht

191cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.3

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.7

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

5.8

3star

M

4.8

4star

T

1.4

2star

CL

0.4

3star

D

17.2

5star

K

8.6

4star

HB

8.6

5star

M

5.6

5star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.8

3star

(MID)

PLUS Set up for (a stronger) 2021 draft with: 2x 1st Round picks, 2x 2nd round picks, 1x 3rd round pick, 2x 4th round picks.

That's a pretty strong mixture of additions really, PLUS puts us in a strong position for 2021. Remember, no one rebuilds from ONE draft.

If we're only taking 4 players, then it's highly unlikely that 2 of them will be Newchurch & Borlase. It appears that Newchurch will only be on our list if he makes it through to the RD.

Also, we're not getting ****ing pick #5. It's not happening. Get over it.

 

[hey shorty]

About as safe as Archie Perkins?

I wouldnt pick him, but I think North wouldnt have any issues. Probably gets to 4

 

[WaynesWorld19]

If the crows are legitimately only taking 4 picks and we believe that Newchurch and Borlase are two of them, I just can't see a way where we aren't trading picks 9, 22 + 23 for one really high pick in 2020 draft (I have used pick 5 below) and another 1st for 2021.

I personally was really hoping to add 6-7 new faces in 2020 draft, but I understand the list squeezes (plus opportunity to land Hately) have stopped that.

Still, if we end up with;
Pick 1: Logan McDonald / Riley Thilthorpe (FWD)
Pick 5: Elijah Hollands / Tanner Brahn / Will Phillips (MID)
Pick 40: Tariek Newchurch (FWD/Wing)
Pick 55: James Borlase (DEF)
PSD: Jackson Hately

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Jackson Hately

Age

23

Ht

191cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.3

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.7

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

5.8

3star

M

4.8

4star

T

1.4

2star

CL

0.4

3star

D

17.2

5star

K

8.6

4star

HB

8.6

5star

M

5.6

5star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.8

3star

(MID)

PLUS Set up for (a stronger) 2021 draft with: 2x 1st Round picks, 2x 2nd round picks, 1x 3rd round pick, 2x 4th round picks.

That's a pretty strong mixture of additions really, PLUS puts us in a strong position for 2021. Remember, no one rebuilds from ONE draft.

No, it'll be 4 players PLUS Borlaise 40+ and Newchurch as a Rookie ......couldn't possibly go Newchurch in the main draft on his output, where some have said he didn't even try in some games

 

[Mutineer]

If you click on the tweet, does it take you to twitter ?

Ad....Blocker enabled?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Ad....Blocker

I've got https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/account/upgrades, and not having Twitter issues

 

[Maggsy]

If we're only taking 4 players, then it's highly unlikely that 2 of them will be Newchurch & Borlase. It appears that Newchurch will only be on our list if he makes it through to the RD.

Also, we're not getting ****ing pick #5. It's not happening. Get over it.

did someone crap in your weetbix this morning?

It's not ridiculous to think we will trade up. We have picks 22,23 and plenty of other picks for 2020, 2021 so upgrading pick 9 is totally a possibility.

I hope you are right re. Newchurch and even Borlase in the RD - I'd love to take 4+ those two somehow.

 

[Mutineer]

I've got https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/account/upgrades, and not having Twitter issues

On one of my devices I was having the same issue using Firefox with https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/account/upgrades so I went over to google chrome on the same device and no problem.

 

[rabidcrow]

I've heard this before...if he was good to go last 2 rounds of the SANFL why wasn't he able to test a week later at the SANFL Combine...hardly as stressful as playing in a SANFL League game.

Leading SA AFL Draft prospects Riley Thilthorpe (groins), Lachlan Jones (ankle), Tom Powell (calf), Kaine Baldwin (knee) and Corey Durdin (hamstring).

NAB AFL SA Combine Results - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

Why test? What benefit does he get from testing?
Clearly going to be picked somewhere in the first round - he already has done enough on field for people to pick him. Perhaps it throws doubt for some clubs although I don’t think it would make much of a difference.


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[WaynesWorld19]

On one of my devices I was having the same issue using Firefox with https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/account/upgrades so I went over to google chrome on the same device and no problem.

Yes I moved away from Firefox, so that could be the issue

 

[hey shorty]

did someone crap in your weetbix this morning?

It's not ridiculous to think we will trade up. We have picks 22,23 and plenty of other picks for 2020, 2021 so upgrading pick 9 is totally a possibility.

I hope you are right re. Newchurch and even Borlase in the RD - I'd love to take 4+ those two somehow.

But it is ridiculous to suggest someone who is only taking 1 pick in a draft will lower said pick

 

[Mutineer]

Why test? What benefit does he get from testing?
Clearly going to be picked somewhere in the first round - he already has done enough on field for people to pick him. Perhaps it throws doubt for some clubs although I don’t think it would make much of a difference.


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Everything I've ever heard about Riley is that he's a workaholic and a very competitive beast so IMO if he was 100% fit to test he would have.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Why test? What benefit does he get from testing?
Clearly going to be picked somewhere in the first round - he already has done enough on field for people to pick him. Perhaps it throws doubt for some clubs although I don’t think it would make much of a difference.


Sent from my iPhone using BigFooty.com

With OP Thilthorpes fitness levels would have dropped away, due to training loads .....so testing would have only been a negative

 

[Vader]

did someone crap in your weetbix this morning?

It's not ridiculous to think we will trade up. We have picks 22,23 and plenty of other picks for 2020, 2021 so upgrading pick 9 is totally a possibility.

I hope you are right re. Newchurch and even Borlase in the RD - I'd love to take 4+ those two somehow.

The reason we're not getting pick 5 is because GC won't give it to us - as has been explained several times already in this thread. GC are only making 1 selection in this draft. They have zero interest in downgrading from 5 to 9, and acquiring picks that they will never use. They want to move up in the draft not down.

Yes, Adelaide will probably be looking to improve its draft position by trading picks 9/22/23 - but there's 0% chance of us landing pick 5 as a result.

Sorry for biting your head off, I'm just getting sick of the endless stream of stupid ****ers who insist on posting phantom drafts with us using pick #5, which is never going to happen. Your post just happened to be the straw which broke the camel's back.

It's looking like 4-5 picks, including matching a bid on Borlase. They'll take Newchurch as a Cat B rookie, but they won't match any bids on him in the ND.