List Mgmt. 2020 Draft and Trade Hypotheticals

[The King!]

We need a fit Daniher

if he is fit then anyone would

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

if he is fit then anyone would

Im not sure another expensive injury riddled forward is what we need, because forget the notion of getting him cheap or anything of the irk.

Daniher if he gets here will be a 800k 4yr deal which is fine if he is on the field.

 

[The King!]

Im not sure another expensive injury riddled forward is what we need, because forget the notion of getting him cheap or anything of the irk.

Daniher if he gets here will be a 800k 4yr deal which is fine if he is on the field.

yeah i said IF

would have to be bloody certain

id also want to hear he came because he wanted us, ie a deal more favoured to us

heck give him 2 years and if be plays 20'games a season he gets a bigger extension

 

[Punts]

Im not sure another expensive injury riddled forward is what we need, because forget the notion of getting him cheap or anything of the irk.

Daniher if he gets here will be a 800k 4yr deal which is fine if he is on the field.

He will not be getting that much coming on 2 years no play

 

[Jeffers]

i bet Brayden Pruess wished he chose us instead of the Demons. (if we were even in the running).

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

i bet Brayden Pruess wished he chose us instead of the Demons. (if we were even in the running).

Pretty stupid to choose Melbourne and be behind Max Gawn unless he gets injured lol.

 

[caesar88]

i bet Brayden Pruess wished he chose us instead of the Demons. (if we were even in the running).

He may be one of those 'weekend footballers'. Those who aren't fussed whether they have a serious AFL career or not, happy to play state league footy on the weekend and collect the AFL-level pay-check while they can.

I honestly didn't know these types existed, but a few of my mates on AFL lists have told me there's at least a few at their club and probably the same with every club.

 

[Kapers]

There's a lot of potential this year to pick up a few really good kids (for the right price)

People we (at least from what I've read) are linked to:
-I like sier a lot (what 20ish male doesn't make bad decisions)
-I hope the Moore rumours are true (my hearts been broken before)
-I would love Daniher (if fit and for the right price. Don't want to ruin the list for him).

We can also target some youngsters that aren't getting the chance they deserve, all from the 2018 draft since it was a pretty okay draft (these guys will probably cost more in draft picks):
- Jye Caldwell (good luck getting many games in a fit Giants list)
- Jackson Hately (see above)
- Riley Collier-Dawkins (same but can't get a game for Richmond, also a bit of a Sydney kid).
The aim isn't to get all three, but just to ask the question, would you like some more game time?

I don't know how much will come to fruition, or how much is already being discussed or dismissed by the club, all I'm saying is that there is a lot of moves we could make this year, hopefully with the addition of another trade ban worthy pull

 

[caesar88]

There's a lot of potential this year to pick up a few really good kids (for the right price)

People we (at least from what I've read) are linked to:
-I like sier a lot (what 20ish male doesn't make bad decisions)
-I hope the Moore rumours are true (my hearts been broken before)
-I would love Daniher (if fit and for the right price. Don't want to ruin the list for him).

We can also target some youngsters that aren't getting the chance they deserve, all from the 2018 draft since it was a pretty okay draft (these guys will probably cost more in draft picks):
- Jye Caldwell (good luck getting many games in a fit Giants list)
- Jackson Hately (see above)
- Riley Collier-Dawkins (same but can't get a game for Richmond, also a bit of a Sydney kid).
The aim isn't to get all three, but just to ask the question, would you like some more game time?

I don't know how much will come to fruition, or how much is already being discussed or dismissed by the club, all I'm saying is that there is a lot of moves we could make this year, hopefully with the addition of another trade ban worthy pull

I agree on your list of young players we could target. You could also add Sier into that bunch. They would be costly, would have to cough up draft picks which I'd be happy to do.

Ideally we get some experience in though. And not injury-plagued experience.

 

[Superstar swan]

Moore would be a sensational pickup

 

[Virgin Dog]

There's a lot of potential this year to pick up a few really good kids (for the right price)

People we (at least from what I've read) are linked to:
-I like sier a lot (what 20ish male doesn't make bad decisions)
-I hope the Moore rumours are true (my hearts been broken before)
-I would love Daniher (if fit and for the right price. Don't want to ruin the list for him).

We can also target some youngsters that aren't getting the chance they deserve, all from the 2018 draft since it was a pretty okay draft (these guys will probably cost more in draft picks):
- Jye Caldwell (good luck getting many games in a fit Giants list)
- Jackson Hately (see above)
- Riley Collier-Dawkins (same but can't get a game for Richmond, also a bit of a Sydney kid).
The aim isn't to get all three, but just to ask the question, would you like some more game time?

I don't know how much will come to fruition, or how much is already being discussed or dismissed by the club, all I'm saying is that there is a lot of moves we could make this year, hopefully with the addition of another trade ban worthy pull

I think you're better off targeting players who have experienced a recent drop in form, but are relatively known quantities with upside. They're the ones you get cheap and turn into great players. Caldwell and Hately would cost too much while RCD is a complete unknown.

For A-graders, both the Crouch brothers should be targeted this year - Brad is a free agent and Matt has just been dropped.

For blokes with upside, if I were the Swans I'd be looking at Toby McLean, Quinton Narkle, Paul Ahern, Jack Petrucelle or Jack Graham, who have all either recently been dropped, or have missed games this season despite being fit.

 

[Olian]

Im not sure another expensive injury riddled forward is what we need, because forget the notion of getting him cheap or anything of the irk.

Daniher if he gets here will be a 800k 4yr deal which is fine if he is on the field.

We kicked 5 goals last night.Clearly a key forward is a need.

 

[caesar88]

I wish we could get Graham from Richmond. Unfortunately Horse would probably use him as a tagger so not a lot would be gained.

RCD is an interesting one. I was a big fan of him in his U18s. He, Jack Ross and Rowbottom were an incredible trio to watch. Their chemistry as mids was like they'd been playing together for a decade. JPK & Hanners-like. Would be keen to see 2/3 reunited.

But risky when you start trying to poach highly-valued youngsters from other clubs, with no guarantee that they'll amount to much, and you've just wasted a potential opportunity to trade in a known quantity for a kid.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

We kicked 5 goals last night.Clearly a key forward is a need.

Absolutely and Papley kicked 90% of them.

I have no issue with chasing Daniher as long as he doesnt spend seasons in the stands.

 

[Kapers]

I wish we could get Graham from Richmond. Unfortunately Horse would probably use him as a tagger so not a lot would be gained.

RCD is an interesting one. I was a big fan of him in his U18s. He, Jack Ross and Rowbottom were an incredible trio to watch. Their chemistry as mids was like they'd been playing together for a decade. JPK & Hanners-like. Would be keen to see 2/3 reunited.

But risky when you start trying to poach highly-valued youngsters from other clubs, with no guarantee that they'll amount to much, and you've just wasted a potential opportunity to trade in a known quantity for a kid.

100% agree with how risky it is. We are not asking for all three tho, and you could look at it like your drafting a gun (getting a pick 20 in a strong draft would be good no matter what.)

Does anyone have a clue what he would cost, 2 round 2s?

If was a syndey player it's would probably be a third round with a first rounder coming back, just for the privledge of giving a player to a Melbourne club

 

[caesar88]

100% agree with how risky it is. We are not asking for all three tho, and you could look at it like your drafting a gun (getting a pick 20 in a strong draft would be good no matter what.)

Does anyone have a clue what he would cost, 2 round 2s?

If was a syndey player it's would probably be a third round with a first rounder coming back, just for the privledge of giving a player to a Melbourne club

A comparable trade would be the Bonar one. GWS received a future third and a future fourth, for Bonar who was drafted as a pick 11.

Not sure how similar RCD would be. Richmond presumably rate him highly, he was their first pick in a super-draft, and it would depend on how much they were thinking about their future while they're in the premiership window.

 

[Kapers]

I think you're better off targeting players who have experienced a recent drop in form, but are relatively known quantities with upside. They're the ones you get cheap and turn into great players. Caldwell and Hately would cost too much while RCD is a complete unknown.

For A-graders, both the Crouch brothers should be targeted this year - Brad is a free agent and Matt has just been dropped.

For blokes with upside, if I were the Swans I'd be looking at Toby McLean, Quinton Narkle, Paul Ahern, Jack Petrucelle or Jack Graham, who have all either recently been dropped, or have missed games this season despite being fit.

Although I understand where your coming from, I feel we are at the stage in our list where we need take a few risks, pick up some players that no one has seen the full potential of. Those players are to fill in holes, and although I would probably like to see us grab a few like them, we need to take some risks with this list imo

 

[Kapers]

A comparable trade would be the Bonar one. GWS received a future third and a future fourth, for Bonar who was drafted as a pick 11.

Not sure how similar RCD would be. Richmond presumably rate him highly, he was their first pick in a super-draft, and it would depend on how much they were thinking about their future while they're in the premiership window.

Its tough but maybe a second round now and a future one? Surely that would entice them.

But then again, who even knows if he wants to leave

 

[caesar88]

Its tough but maybe a second round now and a future one? Surely that would entice them.

But then again, who even knows if he wants to leave

Yeah it's purely speculative. You'd like to think we're looking into it though.

FWIW here are some other recent examples of high draft picks who were traded within a few years of being drafted:

Jack Scrimshaw - drafted at pick 7 in 2016; traded to Hawthorn for a future third round in 2018.

Ryan Burton - drafted at pick 19 in 2015; traded to Port Adelaide for pick 15 in 2018.

Callum Ah Chee - drafted at pick 8 in 2015; traded to Brisbane for future second and fourth round in 2019.

Will Setterfield - drafted at pick 5 in 2016; traded to Carlton with pick 71 for pick 43 and a future second round in 2018.

Josh Schache - drafted at pick 2 in 2015; traded to Bulldogs for pick 25 and pick 40 in 2017.

Burton aside, who was a unique case because of his direct involvement in a big trade by Hawthorn to get Wingard, it doesn't seem like other clubs have had to cough up a lot for mostly-unproven young talent.

 

[RUNVS]

We need a fit Daniher

Our list isn't in a position where Danniher will make a bit of difference.

 

[caesar88]

Charlie Constable again not even an emergency for Geelong....

 

[BloodySwan]

Zach Williams is the midfielder I want

 

[Olian]

Our list isn't in a position where Danniher will make a bit of difference.

A fit Daniher would have made a difference last night. Not another 18 year old midfield prospect.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Zach Williams is the midfielder I want

To expensive and we dont get GWS players.

 

[Del198236]

It will be very interesting how much list are reduced by,, and what players are forced out. Could be a lot of cheap (but quality) trades to be had.
If Paps goes, we'll have 2 top 10 picks..
- do we trade - happy with Campbell & Gulden at the draft and trade in a couple of guns?
- do we draft as best possible (Campbell + Gulden + 1-2 top 10 picks) and get some of the cheap trades on offer due to reduced list sizes. mature players that can offer support to the many young guys coming through,, and,, 3rd to 4th year players with potential but not getting game time

both options have positives and negatives to them..
I reckon all clubs need to take advantage of every situation, and there's likely to be some very good 'value for money' trades on offer due to list sizes decreasing
Im happy to keep building through the draft if we can pick up a couple of good value mature recruits - a 'fit & free' Daniher is a big piece to this puzzle