List Mgmt. 2020 Draft and Trade Hypotheticals

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tombomb

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We have major issues in nearly every position on the ground, except key defence (kind of) and winger/flankers who float in and out of the game without doing much (we have plenty of them).

DGB would have to be an absolute standout if we are going to take him over any of the other supposed top 5.
 

DavyRed

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All well and good but I think you have forgotten something. List places. We only have room for 3 players on the Senior List. But we have Rookie Spots available. I think we might just Rookie another Academy boy. Barling looks a likely type.
There are several boys better than Barling. We don’t need him as a smallish forward and he’s not good enough for the midfield.
 

Wolftone

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We don't have to fill those two places with Rookies. Can be seniors if we want. Just don't get the 80k discount. 🤔
The new list size says Senior lists must be between 36-38. No more. The rest are Cat A & B Rookies up to 44. That is 6 in all. We cannot take any more than 3 senior list picks as we only have 3 spots. We already have 35 and the most we can have is 38. Draftees go directly to the Senior list.
 

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Wolftone

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I think we have up to 4 senior list spots, one could be a rookie though. But I think we can take 4.
You're right I kept including Sam Wicks in the senior squad. but doesn't tom Hickey take one spot?
 

RobbieK

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The new list size says Senior lists must be between 36-38. No more. The rest are Cat A & B Rookies up to 44. That is 6 in all. We cannot take any more than 3 senior list picks as we only have 3 spots. We already have 35 and the most we can have is 38. Draftees go directly to the Senior list.
We currently only have 34 senior list players. That's including Taylor.

 

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You're right I kept including Sam Wicks in the senior squad. but doesn't tom Hickey take one spot?
Yes but one in one out with Aliir.
 

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Because I think the idea that next years draft will be strong is in itself a risk. The top end talent from this draft will be gone and next years 18 year olds also missed a year of development this year so have no top age form to go off. Yes some will jump that didn’t have the chance to this year but you’re playing in ifs and buts. The 19 year olds normally get an extra year of development (VFL/SANFL/WAFL etc) but you don’t see that many taken that have suddenly made the leap.

And yes speed up the rebuild, get in the mid and tall we need from the top end of the draft.

From next year I’d also be hoping we are looking to the free agency pool to start adding the finishing pieces and I think we will largely be done with the draft regeneration (assuming we get the selections right).
A years worth of no football makes no difference to the quality and depth.

The AFL talent team and the recruiters have known for at least two years that this year was thin and what is quality is taller and that next year has depth and particularly midfield depth.


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RobbieK

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A years worth of no football makes no difference to the quality and depth.

The AFL talent team and the recruiters have known for at least two years that this year was thin and what is quality is taller and that next year has depth and particularly midfield depth.


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Those players have not received the kind of attention or opportunity for improvement that they would have had if this year had been a normal one, though. That will have stunted their projected development to some extent, you would think.
 

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What about the bigger mid , can't remember his name, (Thorne?) but looks strong and likely type.

But then we need a bloody ruck, so It'd be good to have one of those too.
Both the two academy rucks are raw and are not going to be drafted to an AFL list spot this year.

Will get a chance in our new reserves system and a chance for us to look at them again for another year playing against senior bodies.

Thorne is the only other academy player that is likely for the rookie draft for us.


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Grand Uncle Horace

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Think our midfield changes a fair bit next season.

Campbell and Gulden both add a different look to it (I personally think Gulden will predominantly be a mid), Stephens is going to develop further along with Rowbottom and potentially Blakey.

Hopefully Warner can become that inside type, but Stephens played predominantly inside as a junior so may only need to build on weight.
Chances will be limited because jpk is incapable of playing anywhere else
 

SeanM

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I am not sure it would be that easy to get Gold Coast's pick 5 otherwise other clubs would do it and have more to offer.
 
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Wheresbuddy

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We have major issues in nearly every position on the ground, except key defence (kind of) and winger/flankers who float in and out of the game without doing much (we have plenty of them).

DGB would have to be an absolute standout if we are going to take him over any of the other supposed top 5.
If we take DGB it would be that we view McT as a tall forward.
Be interesting if McDonald and/or Thilthorpe are available at pick 3 along with DGB. Definitely take McDonald over DGB, on the fence if it's Thilthorpe.
 

RUNVS

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If we take DGB it would be that we view McT as a tall forward.
Be interesting if McDonald and/or Thilthorpe are available at pick 3 along with DGB. Definitely take McDonald over DGB, on the fence if it's Thilthorpe.
I wonder if DGB could be a key forward. Apparently he has gone forward a few times and has been reasonably successful in doing so.
 

RUNVS

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A stat I would love to see, and I suppose I could work it out later is Lloyd's disposal numbers in games we win vs games we lose. I am willing to bet Lloyd gets lower disposals in the games we lose, and I never think we as a team have done well when I see Lloyd topping our disposal sheet like he does quite often. A defender should not be topping our disposal stats.
 

Bear31

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A stat I would love to see, and I suppose I could work it out later is Lloyd's disposal numbers in games we win vs games we lose. I am willing to bet Lloyd gets lower disposals in the games we lose, and I never think we as a team have done well when I see Lloyd topping our disposal sheet like he does quite often. A defender should not be topping our disposal stats.
I reckon he would be better on a wing. He knows how to spread quickly and find space to receive the ball.
 

Kiama Chris

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A stat I would love to see, and I suppose I could work it out later is Lloyd's disposal numbers in games we win vs games we lose. I am willing to bet Lloyd gets lower disposals in the games we lose, and I never think we as a team have done well when I see Lloyd topping our disposal sheet like he does quite often. A defender should not be topping our disposal stats.
Not sure that Lloyd is a defender in the traditional sense. More of a distributor. His importance is more on the way out than on the way in. He runs to space to give other defenders a target, then moves it on to the next target. Big tank and smart use of space.
He's not a very good one on one defender, but that's mostly not how we defend. He doesn't lack courage but does appear to lack upper body strength.
Be very interested to see if Pyke starts to change things up around our exits. This has a lot of possibility to reduce the number of rebounds and have us spend more time in the oppo half. Ditto restricting oppo exits.
 

BloodySwan

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A stat I would love to see, and I suppose I could work it out later is Lloyd's disposal numbers in games we win vs games we lose. I am willing to bet Lloyd gets lower disposals in the games we lose, and I never think we as a team have done well when I see Lloyd topping our disposal sheet like he does quite often. A defender should not be topping our disposal stats.
His stats are deceptive. He does the majority of our kickins and 90% of the time will run on. Easily racks up 6-10 disposals from kickins a game
 

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I wonder if DGB could be a key forward. Apparently he has gone forward a few times and has been reasonably successful in doing so.
Aaron Naughton has made a successful conversion forward. But it would make more sense for McT to continue his development as a KPF. His set shot has improved out of sight and he's always had good hands.
 

RUNVS

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Aaron Naughton has made a successful conversion forward. But it would make more sense for McT to continue his development as a KPF. His set shot has improved out of sight and he's always had good hands.
The Gold Coast King twin did as well, and he looks very very promising as a forward.
 
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