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Are Peter Wright and Will Brodie on the trade table?

“They have asked if we would consider it. They are contracted so if they stay with us then everything is fine.

“They have also asked if there is a possibility for them to get more game time somewhere else then would we look to trade them. They haven’t nominated any clubs yet but we are happy to provide a trade should it work for them and the club.”


Have any other Suns players requested a trade?

“No, which is good for us. It’s probably the first time in a long time. We have built a strong culture and it’s showing.”


That puts those trade request rumours to bed.
Very happy that Luko + 5 trade requests info was incorrect!
 
People forget that SUNS now have smart operators :)

So here is Treloar's smart plot.

Treloar and SUNS actually made a secret deal. Meanwhile they publicly drive the negotiating power of Collingwood to virtually nothing. At the end of trade period Collingwod will be happy to off-load Treloar for about anything. Collingwood pays 300K per year for the length of the contract. SUNS keep pick 5 and give Coolingwood instead pick 24 and if SUNS are in a good mood they add Wright or Brodie. Treloar is happy to re-structure his contract. Average 600K per year from SUNS, first 2 years 800K, then 600K, 400K, 400K.
 
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The club has been heavily linked to Collingwood’s Adam Treloar. Is there any interest from the Suns for the midfielder?

“It’s not really our issue because he is not our player and he has shown no interest in coming to us.

“If it worked out then great but I can’t see how it would. He is not in that 26 or under age group that we were talking about for pick 5.

“If that changed and Adam did approach us then I don’t think we could tell him a flat no because he is a very talented player.”

I really like 26 or under as elite target/pick 5 swap. No chance pick 5 for Treloar.
 
Are Peter Wright and Will Brodie on the trade table?

“They have asked if we would consider it. They are contracted so if they stay with us then everything is fine.

“They have also asked if there is a possibility for them to get more game time somewhere else then would we look to trade them. They haven’t nominated any clubs yet but we are happy to provide a trade should it work for them and the club.”


Have any other Suns players requested a trade?

“No, which is good for us. It’s probably the first time in a long time. We have built a strong culture and it’s showing.”


That puts those trade request rumours to bed.
According to the Roar a 19 year old and a couple of 18 year olds have been told that if there are list spots the club will take them, the problem is that if Brodie and Wright stay those kids wont get a gig.

Can Thompson be put on a long term injury list?.
Has Ace already been put on the list
 
Well while it’s going to be a boring trade period at least they have been open about it so we won’t be sitting there waiting on news.

2MP and Brodie sound like they are likely gone and we won’t get much for them

I love the transparency from the club.

We are finally not losing any best 22 players and we are bringing in at least 2 x best 22 players.

Plus a pick 5 high quality kid (or a gun mature player if the stars line up) & a minimum 2 x top 20 academy players.

How the hell is that boring?
So glass half empty.
 
According to the Roar a 19 year old and a couple of 18 year olds have been told that if there are list spots the club will take them, the problem is that if Brodie and Wright stay those kids wont get a gig.

Can Thompson be put on a long term injury list?.
Has Ace already been put on the list
hm.. a 19 year old. Who other than Gore is an overager of 19? There was only a couple 19 year olds on the academy this year, wasn't there?
 
Have any other Suns players requested a trade?

“No, which is good for us. It’s probably the first time in a long time. We have built a strong culture and it’s showing.”

What were ultimately the stumbling blocks for both Wright and Brodie at the Suns?

“Ben (King) and Sam (Day) held down those key spots and in the midfield probably Hugh Greenwood came in probably hurt Will. Noah (Anderson) also went inside in the last half of the year.”

Are there any concerns that if Wright and Brodie leave it would hurt the depth the club was starting to build on the list?

“No, our depth is OK, especially in the midfield area. We have had a lot of draft picks in the last couple of years so we have brought in a lot of players.”

Disagree a bit with the last comment. Yes we have some depth in the midfield but it’s not the quality depth that the top sides have.
 
hm.. a 19 year old. Who other than Gore is an overager of 19? There was only a couple 19 year olds on the academy this year, wasn't there?
Selsby , Colenso , Joyce and Rusca are the other ones , one of those is closer to achieving their dream, Fyfe , Pescud, Reeves and Nicholls were the other academy 18 year Olds named as possible s
 
According to the Roar a 19 year old and a couple of 18 year olds have been told that if there are list spots the club will take them, the problem is that if Brodie and Wright stay those kids wont get a gig.

Can Thompson be put on a long term injury list?.
Has Ace already been put on the list
Is it in Thomas Roker article (I believe 17er) or somewhere else? I can't find it.
 
How the hell is that boring?
So glass half empty.
hang on a minute, it’s boring because we know all this already, the comments I made where not glass half empty they are a reflection that there are no surprises .

If you don’t like what I have to say that’s fine or if I’m negative call me out that’s fine but don’t get on me because you misinterpret a comment. I don’t attack anyone here regardless of whether I agree or no, I state an opinion without the Personal jabs, try it maybe
 

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Selsby , Colenso , Joyce and Rusca are the other ones , one of those is closer to achieving their dream, Fyfe , Pescud, Reeves and Nicholls were the other academy 18 year Olds named as possible s
Lets see who has performed this year in the academy/QAFL.

I havent heard much about Joyce. Colenso and Gore has been the main 2 I would think.

As for the 18 year olds... I'd say either Fyfe or/and Pescud, both have been talked up about recently.
 
Disagree a bit with the last comment. Yes we have some depth in the midfield but it’s not the quality depth that the top sides have.

I think we will have midfield depth, but the quality is young. That’s why Atkins is important. And Treloar would be the cherry.

Pick 5 - Phillips?
Flanders
Davies
Fiorini
Sharp
Farrar
Brodie?

Rankine & Ainsworth could also spend time in the midfield next season.

MacPherson probably also needs to step up his versatility through the midfield if he wants cement best 22.
 
Wouldn't get too excited about the key player, it is 100% Atkins.
That’s already in the media so I doubt this is the secret they’re keeping.
I can’t speak for others but for me the issue is he doesn’t want to come And we need people that don’t want to be here like a second arseh*le
EDIT. Also he has a huge contract that will cost us some of our elite kids
He said that before going to Pies also.
 
As mentioned in a previous post looking like Broad is staying at Richmond, Is Markov still on the GC list or do you guys think not
also what would you guys trade for him ?
This is from the list manager:


How big is your interest in Adelaide midfielder Rory Atkins and Richmond defender Oleg Markov and what do you think each could add to the side?
“Rory is an outside power runner. I think it sets up our wings with him and Brandon (Ellis)

“We are sorted on the wings and we have young Jeremy Sharp coming through. I just think it helps our running power.

“With Pearce (Hanley) retiring at the end of the season and Harbs (Jarrod Harbrow) probably going into his last season we want to bolster our rebounding defensive stocks and we think Oleg can do that.

How confident are you that the Suns can secure both targets, particularly given Atkins is an unrestricted free agent and you won’t have to give up any picks to get him?

“We will hopefully lodge the paperwork for Rory on Friday and I’m confident we will get a deal done for Oleg.

“Oleg is pretty keen to come to us and Richmond are a pretty good club to deal with so it could be done on the first day (of the trade period, starting November 4).”

W h at would be a fair trade for both players?

“I don’t like to say those things publicly because it ends up becoming a negotiation in the public space.”
 
“If it worked out then great but I can’t see how it would. He is not in that 26 or under age group that we were talking about for pick 5.

“If that changed and Adam did approach us then I don’t think we could tell him a flat no because he is a very talented player.”


I like the wording used in terms of Treloar not meeting our criteria for paying up pick 5. If it comes about he wants to come we hopefully won't be put in a position we overpay.
 

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Just re read the article , he doesn't specifically say that but I believe a couple know they have a potential spot while a couple may end up on other teams lists
Craig Cameron says himself that other clubs are looking at players from the academy. And why wouldn't they? the boys have been playing up in QLD, where all the clubs have been watching them play, while nobody in vic has been able to play any footy.

Dordoro/essendon and richmond have been known to bid on academy/NGA players. Its how Essendon got mosquito from Hawthorn. How Richmond got 1 or 2 Lions academy players last draft.
 
Happy to welcome new players that want to be here and will defend them to the hilt.

But for a team to finish 15th to only get in Markov and Atkins, with all due respect, doesn't seem like it's enough. I know we're in a unique position with the youth of our list but we seem to be relying a lot on internal development. I know that will happen to some degree, but how much is always uncertain.

Must admit I was a bit flat when Cameron essentially said that was it.
 

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