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I see there is a list of draftees in the HUN. Noticed one young draft hopeful is a defender and models his game on our Harris Andrews. His name is Zach Reid from Gippsland Power. Apparently his grandfather played for Footscray.

Hope the young fella gets picked up.....will keep an eye out to see where he goes.
 

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I see there is a list of draftees in the HUN. Noticed one young draft hopeful is a defender and models his game on our Harris Andrews. His name is Zach Reid from Gippsland Power. Apparently his grandfather played for Footscray.

Hope the young fella gets picked up.....will keep an eye out to see where he goes.
First round prospect, considered the second or third best tall defender in this draft.
 

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This post from the draft forum was informative.

This draft is a tale of ACL's and KPF's

If you're a club looking for an athletic tall forward who can kick 50 goals a year, this is the draft for you.

The Bulldogs get a freebie in JUH, the other obvious choice is Logan McDonald who has put behind his ordinary 2019 season to blow everyone away with his 2020 form in the wafl as one of the leading goal kickers for 2020, one player who could be better than all of them is Kaine Baldwin, i've seen 3 highlight reels of mainly his form as a 16 year old seeing as he has mostly been injured in recent years, but his speed and athletic qualities for a big man were better or at least on par with the other KPF's in the draft, his skills and smarts are also a feature and as ive said before reminds me of a young Jack Riewoldt, but obviously the 2x ACL injuries have people spooked about whether those injuries will hold him back or not or potentially affect his speed?, the other forward who could become a 50 goal tall forward is Jackson Callow, he is more the tall crumbing forward who also has a very strong marking grip, ive seen him in a dozen games and he kicks as many goals from general play as on the mark and i think he is under-rated atm as i have him firmly in the first round contention for a club looking for a flexible KPF option, who could also double as a tall defender?.
A number of people have discussed the idea of drafting a KPF to replace Skinner, who is apparently not in favour. Given we're unlikely to be in a position to draft the elite prospects anytime soon, we might want to have a look at Baldwin and Callow, who have the talent to become top forwards and will probably be available at the end of the first round.
 

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This post from the draft forum was informative.



A number of people have discussed the idea of drafting a KPF to replace Skinner, who is apparently not in favour. Given we're unlikely to be in a position to draft the elite prospects anytime soon, we might want to have a look at Baldwin and Callow, who have the talent to become top forwards and will probably be available at the end of the first round.
My uneducated take.

Baldwin: Undersized KPF at 193cm and 2 acl’s.

Callow: Undersized KPF at 193cm, poor vertical jump, exceptional mark at U18 level and TSL.
 

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The more I look at this years first round, the more I want to trade out.

Depending on how many band 1 compensation picks are handed out, the finalists picks could theoretically move back by up to 3 or 4 spots.

Players who might leave their current club and earn band 1 compensation;
Brad Crouch
Zac Williams
Jeremy Cameron
Joe Daniher

Players who might leave their current club and earn band 2 or 3 compensation, pushing back second and third round picks;
Rory Atkins
Aiden Corr
 

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The more I look at this years first round, the more I want to trade out.

Depending on how many band 1 compensation picks are handed out, the finalists picks could theoretically move back by up to 3 or 4 spots.

Players who might leave their current club and earn band 1 compensation;
Brad Crouch
Zac Williams
Jeremy Cameron
Joe Daniher

Players who might leave their current club and earn band 2 or 3 compensation, pushing back second and third round picks.
Rory Atkins
Aiden Corr
Who's to say there won't be a similar number next year?
 

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Who's to say there won't be a similar number next year?
Part of the reason why I don’t like this year, is there are a number of high end nga kids, who don’t deserve to be in an nga academy and tied to a particular club.

I believe we’ll see some changes to future draft rules announced before this years trade period.

Most notably, no nga bids in the first round or first two rounds. So all early nga prospects are available to everyone.

Good year to bring such a rule in, as early discussions of next year’s draft crop, there doesn’t look to be any high end NGA prospects.

There’s been a lot of talk that next years crop is significantly stronger and deeper than this years crop. And this was before this year went hell.

Add in the potential for some late developers from this year to not be drafted, but performing well next year and adding to the depth of the draft.
 

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The more I look at this years first round, the more I want to trade out.
Can't see us getting much for it if we do. Even last year, we saw that teams didn't value this draft a lot. Fremantle willingly took on a points deficit, Gold Coast traded pick 11 (now 10) for a 2019 second round pick and Melbourne traded a top 10 pick for a 2019 one round upgrade. Covid has probably made this draft less valuable still.

Given next year looks like a pretty decent crop at this stage and is far less compromised, I can't see anyone being willing to give up a future first for a pick this year. We're probably stuck unless we manage to trade in a veteran for good value.
 

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Can't see us getting much for it if we do. Even last year, we saw that teams didn't value this draft a lot. Fremantle willingly took on a points deficit, Gold Coast traded pick 11 (now 10) for a 2019 second round pick and Melbourne traded a top 10 pick for a 2019 one round upgrade. Covid has probably made this draft less valuable still.

Given next year looks like a pretty decent crop at this stage and is far less compromised, I can't see anyone being willing to give up a future first for a pick this year. We're probably stuck unless we manage to trade in a veteran for good value.
Possibly Collingwood.

It’s been reported that they’re interested in another first round pick this year, and they have father son Nick Daicos, who’s a potential top 10 draftee.

Would a current first and future second round pick get a deal done for their future and current second round pick (tied to Richmond).

And they have a potential mid to late NGA kid as well for next year.
 

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Possibly Collingwood.

It’s been reported that they’re interested in another first round pick this year, and they have father son Nick Daicos, who’s a potential top 10 draftee.

Would a current first and future second round pick get a deal done for their future and current second round pick (tied to Richmond).

And they have a potential mid to late NGA kid as well for next year.
Their future first or second?

They have McInnes to match this year too, they'd want to be absolutely sure they're getting in before a bid, and I'm not sure either of our picks would do that.
 

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The more I look at this years first round, the more I want to trade out.
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between the NGA's (a number of top kids spoken for and other clubs needing points) and unexposed form, if we bale in this draft completely at the top end do we trade the picks for players or go all in for early picks next year? The added bonus with trading for 2021 picks is it will give next yeah for Smith, Robertson, Coleman, etc to hopefully get a few games without having to compete against this years picks.
 

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Their future first or second?

They have McInnes to match this year too, they'd want to be absolutely sure they're getting in before a bid, and I'm not sure either of our picks would do that.
Sorry meant:
Lions out 2020 1st round pick, 2021 second round pick.

Collingwood out 2020 second round pick, 2021 first round pick.
 

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between the NGA's (a number of top kids spoken for and other clubs needing points) and unexposed form, if we bale in this draft completely at the top end do we trade the picks for players or go all in for early picks next year? The added bonus with trading for 2021 picks is it will give next yeah for Smith, Robertson, Coleman, etc to hopefully get a few games without having to compete against this years picks.
That’s part of my thinking.

I’d be happy with selecting Coleman jr and a ruck mid to late second round.
 

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