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Will need pick 1 by the sound of that
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Worked out pretty well last time we took a KPF from WA
Realistically we shouldn’t win another game for the year.
Hard when we still have Crows to play, and also the scum.
But for longer term it’s in our interest to not win another game this year.
Play the kids, I’d even rest Mitchell.
Use this years draft & to a lesser extent the trade period to springboard our next challenge
Hard when we still have Crows to play, and also the scum.
But for longer term it’s in our interest to not win another game this year.
Play the kids, I’d even rest Mitchell.
Use this years draft & to a lesser extent the trade period to springboard our next challenge
Not a lot of meat on the bone in his analysis though is there? He's basically basing this on goals per game at state level and an arbitrary ranking criteria he's made up?
I think you need to be extremely careful taking KPP's this high in the draft, they need to have either or both elite speed and agility, McDonald doesn't appear to have either from what I've seen.
I don't think we can afford to get sucked into drafting for positional needs, we have holes everywhere, just take the best available.
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Sure but the guy kicking bags every week in the WAFL might be the best available. Suspect he won’t be available though
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Noah Anderson what could have been..
The afl would have found a way to have him at gc even had we finished last in 2019. It just wasn’t meant to be.
That analysis is poor...It has no substance. It's based off a 4-5 game stretch. By that analysis a player that comes in and kicks 4 goals on debut is on the way to becoming the greatest goal kicker since Tony Lockett....Give some credible evidence on the guys skillset for your opinions, not just point to a hot run of statistics, or at the very least let the hot run last more than 4 games. I like Knightmares analysis but he makes Big statements that really don't have much substance to support his opinions.
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I was bleeding we missed out on Noah Anderson but there is no chance we would have picked up Will Day if we landed Noah Anderson. I couldn't be more enthused by what I am seeing by Will Day. He's an absolute natural footballer. He keeps this improvement and performance up and there is no one I am trading for in that last draft.
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Just watched the curtain raiser game form last year again and for me it’s Hollands over Phillips definitely, kid just has an aura about him and the skill to go with it. Even if Hollands is gone and Phillips is there for our pick I hope we have our eye on someone. Phillips is going to be good but needs the class around him which we lack.
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Agree Phillips is not the best fit but we are drafting someone to be at the club hopefully for the next 10+ years.
If he is best available and the two talls/Hollands are gone (as an example) i am totally okay with taking Phillips.
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Getting a key forward high in the draft is a risky proposition. Sure it can pay off with buddy, roughy or the Kings, but it doesn’t always pan out that way. With Schache, Boyd and McCartin among many others.
Not that I’m against a tall forward I just feel they need to be able to play more than just key forward. Especially with the way the game has gone. Playing against kids or at the level below especially as a tall u18 can make you seem way better.
It’s why I have the 10 rule. If they were 10 cm shorter and 10 kilos lighter with the same agility could they be a gun. Most of the best key forwards have this. The ones that seem not to make it don’t more often than not.
Not that I’m against a tall forward I just feel they need to be able to play more than just key forward. Especially with the way the game has gone. Playing against kids or at the level below especially as a tall u18 can make you seem way better.
It’s why I have the 10 rule. If they were 10 cm shorter and 10 kilos lighter with the same agility could they be a gun. Most of the best key forwards have this. The ones that seem not to make it don’t more often than not.
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Any player picked high in the draft is a risky proposition. Plenty of midfielders who never made it also. Tambling, O'Rourke, etc., etc., etc.
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Agreed that any pick is a risk, with injury and professionalism being the main reason why players don’t make it.
However midfielders and smalls transition much easier to the AFL. Where as talls have a much harder transition to the higher level. And they can be lacking the required traits which can be masked by dominant performances at lower levels.
A tall forward who can’t play as a medium forward in the current game will struggle. Even Hawkins as strong as he is wouldn’t be half the player he is if he wasn’t as strong on a lead.
Defences are so good so without multiple ways to get goals being a tall forward they will struggle. So one that can’t is IMO not worth taking with a top 10 pick.
The top 5 key position goal kickers this year are Hawkins, kennedy, Dixon, taberner and Lynch. Not a lot of speed or agility in that bunch. I would suggest contested marking, strength, A decent kick and good game sense are probably more important
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tbf for key forwards Hawkins, Kennedy & Lynch do have a bit of speed behind them.
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What about packaging some those late picks to try and add another pick in the 20s or even 30s?
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They don't have too much value tbh. Like the 2x 40's would probably get you a 30's but would probably just be better off having the 2x 40's to have 2 stabs at a player that more than likely is going to be around the same as a 30's anyway.
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We will need some for any bid on Downie.
IMO our best bet is to get another pick <25, so we could then potentially add three picks and Downie.
Yeah they are alright. I wouldn’t say they were lighting quick though, can’t imagine mcdonald being too much slower than lynch or Hawkins
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Oh yeah completely agree with you there. Personally just don't think a key forward should be our first pick priority.
yeah we need everything atm, it’s really come apart this year. Our tall forwards are bottom 4, our mids not bad but all alike, I rate frost and frawleys alright, but he’s nearly done. So a case could be made for any of those guys in the top 5 really. My preferences would be Holland’s > mcdonald > Thilthorpe > dgb > Phillips
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