Opinion 2020 Draft picks 1/9/22/23/40/56/66/80 (2021 + Melb 2nd, 4th, Haw 4th)

[Deaneus!]

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KEY DATES

Oct 30 – Nov 6: AFL Free Agency Period
November 4 – 12: AFL Trade Period
November 20: List Lodgment 1
November 27: List Lodgment 2
November 30: AFL Draft Nominations close
w/c December 7: NAB AFL Draft and Rookie Draft (exact date to be confirmed in due course)
Mid-December: Final List Lodgment & TPP estimates​

As God is my witness, finding anything useful on the AFL.com.au site is practically impossible, may whoever designed it burn in hell.

 

[SaltPeter]

More notes on some WA draftees by eDPS

DGB is an interesting read

Scouting Notes: 2020 Western Australia Under 18 All-Stars - Game Two

THE 2020 Western Australia Under 18 All-Stars went head-to-head for a second time on Saturday, serving as the final chance for budding WA draft prospects to impress AFL recruiters. Potential top five selection Denver Grainger-Barras was ultra-impressive, leading Team Gold to a mighty turnaround...

afl.draftcentral.com.au

 

[Disco Fox]

I sort of agree as well,it’s about where he will be in the AFL ranks. Can he transfer his game into the AFL or will be become an average player.

I think thilthorpes game is better suited because he’s bigger and a better contested mark.

Drafting is a science of seeing the future player he could be and how he will develop.

only thing that scares me is Hamish when it comes to picking first rounders, always seems to pick later picks well but always goes left field with firsts. It worked very well with Doedee but not with Gallucci.

More notes on some WA draftees by eDPS

DGB is an interesting read

Scouting Notes: 2020 Western Australia Under 18 All-Stars - Game Two

THE 2020 Western Australia Under 18 All-Stars went head-to-head for a second time on Saturday, serving as the final chance for budding WA draft prospects to impress AFL recruiters. Potential top five selection Denver Grainger-Barras was ultra-impressive, leading Team Gold to a mighty turnaround...

afl.draftcentral.com.au

DGB was moved onto McDonald in a WAFL game this year after McDonald had scored 2 or 3 goals in the first half - he shut him down completely. He is very talented & mature. The Thilthorpe highlights reel is pretty damned impressive.

 

[CroCop]

I also watched his WAFL games ....so it was an opinion based on an accumulation of information

I am and have always been more excited about Grainger-Barrass if you've followed my posts ......seems he is gathering favor elsewhere ..... I saw him as more than a Defender , a potential pack marking forward with a great great pair of hands

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Totally agree, been saying the same things about Grainger -Barass in earlier posts . Has that pack marking ability to be a great forward and more nimble than McDonald an Thilthorpe .

 

[WaynesWorld19]

More notes on some WA draftees by eDPS

DGB is an interesting read

Scouting Notes: 2020 Western Australia Under 18 All-Stars - Game Two

THE 2020 Western Australia Under 18 All-Stars went head-to-head for a second time on Saturday, serving as the final chance for budding WA draft prospects to impress AFL recruiters. Potential top five selection Denver Grainger-Barras was ultra-impressive, leading Team Gold to a mighty turnaround...

afl.draftcentral.com.au

Did McDonald not play in the game ?

 

[Scorpus]

More notes on some WA draftees by eDPS

DGB is an interesting read

Scouting Notes: 2020 Western Australia Under 18 All-Stars - Game Two

THE 2020 Western Australia Under 18 All-Stars went head-to-head for a second time on Saturday, serving as the final chance for budding WA draft prospects to impress AFL recruiters. Potential top five selection Denver Grainger-Barras was ultra-impressive, leading Team Gold to a mighty turnaround...

afl.draftcentral.com.au

Tall defender with athleticism and great combine results. And now he's played forward that one time so everyone can reference it forever.

Do I smell a Hamish special coming up? Ticks a lot of (his) boxes

 

[SaltPeter]

Did McDonald not play in the game ?

No idea

 

[Murray2503]

DGB was moved onto McDonald in a WAFL game this year after McDonald had scored 2 or 3 goals in the first half - he shut him down completely. He is very talented & mature. The Thilthorpe highlights reel is pretty damned impressive.

No shame there as he will likely shutdown most forwards in time. Plays like a young Jeremy Mcgovern. DGB and Doedee in our backline would be elite along with Worrell/McAsey, McPherson, Hamill, Milera, Brown. Defence wins flags especially with the modern game of low scoring.

Wouldn't be unhappy with one of either McDonald or Thilthorpe along with DGB. I feel Brad will likely stay and we may be able to pick up Horne next year with a top 5 pick. If not there will be another quality mid at that pick. Add in Hately this year and another midfield trade next year and the midfield should be fine. Ideally we can manoeuvre some trades to allow us to get a key back (DGB),a KPF (McDonald/Thilthorpe) and an elite mid (Hollands/Phillips).

 

[latinoheat]

You know what I’d like to see published... every clubs top 10 draft list after the draft is over for that year. Would be good to go through and see how they differ. Wonder if any other club had Stocker in their top 10 in 2018!

 

[Brett Cummings]

Funny stuff..can we have some of what you are taking

hawkins in the qualifier against port in perfect conditions: 0 goals, 5 behinds.

*ing dogshit buddy.

he's never been a good kick for goal. you guys can stay in denial.

 

[Brett Cummings]

I will be livid if we take McDonald over this guy.

toss of the coin for me between Hollands and Thilthorpe.

I will be livid if we dont get pick 2 and pick thilthorpe over hollands at 1.

some here say no because of the acl but I can also make the argument that thilthorpe has dodgy groins. having bad groins can easily ruin a career just as bad.

b crouch had the same problems and he didnt turn into the elite mid I thought he would be. its totally slowed him down.

 

[StonesThrow]

And just like that, the tide has turned against McDonald for no apparent reason.

Group think at its finest.

 

[CROUCH #2]

So remind me why Richmond targeted Tom Lynch as a free agent on big coin....

Talent it talent & we should be selecting the best regardless of the position they play.

Note: attaining through free agency....

I'm just calling out we don't have to draft a forward and our window isn't for a few years

 

[Golumless]

No shame there as he will likely shutdown most forwards in time. Plays like a young Jeremy Mcgovern. DGB and Doedee in our backline would be elite along with Worrell/McAsey, McPherson, Hamill, Milera, Brown. Defence wins flags especially with the modern game of low scoring.

Wouldn't be unhappy with one of either McDonald or Thilthorpe along with DGB. I feel Brad will likely stay and we may be able to pick up Horne next year with a top 5 pick. If not there will be another quality mid at that pick. Add in Hately this year and another midfield trade next year and the midfield should be fine. Ideally we can manoeuvre some trades to allow us to get a key back (DGB),a KPF (McDonald/Thilthorpe) and an elite mid (Hollands/Phillips).

The more low scoring a league is, the more vital offensively great players are to win a premiership.

We've drafted McAsey last season. Let's not waste our time with key backs. We've already over invested in them.

 

[Golumless]

Totally agree, been saying the same things about Grainger -Barass in earlier posts . Has that pack marking ability to be a great forward and more nimble than McDonald an Thilthorpe .

Yeah no. If DGB had the potential to be a great forward, he would be playing as a forward.

No club is going to waste someone who could be a gun KPF at center half back.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Note: attaining through free agency....

I'm just calling out we don't have to draft a forward and our window isn't for a few years

Our needs are everywhere.

We have to draft the best talent available regardless of position. Ruling out a position is crazy talk.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Yeah no. If DGB had the potential to be a great forward, he would be playing as a forward.

You do not waste someone who could be a gun KPF at centre half back. No junior club is that stupid.

Aaron Naughton was drafted as a Defender ....so obviously his junior club and WA state team were stupid

Makes a pretty handy forward at the Bulldogs wouldn't you say

Anyone with the hands / marking prowess of DGB , can play def or fwd

 

[Golumless]

Our needs are everywhere.

We have to draft the best talent available regardless of position. Ruling out a position is crazy talk.

We don't need everything though. At this point in time we don't need KPDs as we drafted McAsey last season + Worrell, Butts and Borlace.

We can also go so far to say we barely need defenders at this point in time. We're well flushed with kids who are looking good.

Aaron Naughton was drafted as a Defender ....so obviously his junior club and WA state team were stupid

Makes a pretty handy forward at the Bulldogs wouldn't you say

Anyone with the hands / marking prowess of DGB , can play def or fwd

Your example is a player who barely averaged above a goal a game and has regressed this year (especially when nearly half of his goals came against a side who was making a claim to being the worst side in AFL/VFL history). Handy is not great.

Also no. A great pack mark in defense is an average one forward. The degree of difficulty for a pack mark is much higher as a forward, as you are always up against it numbers wise. Saying a defender will thrive forward of the ball because they look good in relatively easy conditions is certainly something. It's not difficult to see how unlikely that transition is for anything more than a swingman who could kind of do it in a pinch.

 

[Crow till I die]

hawkins in the qualifier against port in perfect conditions: 0 goals, 5 behinds.

f*n dogshit buddy.

he's never been a good kick for goal. you guys can stay in denial.

Mate..he has kicked 600 goals and 329 points in 275 games. Your definition of s**t kick and the rest of us seem to be quite far apart

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[Bearded Clam]

hawkins in the qualifier against port in perfect conditions: 0 goals, 5 behinds.

f*n dogshit buddy.

he's never been a good kick for goal. you guys can stay in denial.

Faaark... Dig up man!!...

 

[Disco Fox]

Did McDonald not play in the game ?

No, he had a minor injury.

 

[Disco Fox]

And just like that, the tide has turned against McDonald for no apparent reason.

Group think at its finest.

Nobody on here has enough intimate knowledge about any of these players to make damning judgements - the fun is throwing our "uneducated" opinions at each other in a sort of "mine is bigger than yours" sort of way. It is a commonly held view by recruiters that when a club has Pick 1 they should select the player that they feel has the most talent & maturity to be a long-term AFL player, who they hope will turn out to be an actual champion. So, to say that the Crows should ignore DGB because so far he's played in defence(only to our limited knowledge!) is a nonsense. If they deem him more gifted than RT, EH or LMcD then they'll pick him. McDonald rates DGB very highly.
Separate question - I thought I saw a reference to an All Star draftee game to be held at Thebarton Oval this coming Friday. Can anyone here confirm this & is it open to the public?

 

[Snake_Baker]

Aaron Naughton was drafted as a Defender ....so obviously his junior club and WA state team were stupid

Makes a pretty handy forward at the Bulldogs wouldn't you say

Anyone with the hands / marking prowess of DGB , can play def or fwd

The kid strikes me as the contemporary version of a CHF.

 

[johnnypanther]

I'm going for talent and needs - we need "elite" players and IMO Hollands is the one who stands out as pick 1.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

I am hoping someone bids early on Lauchie Jones. I will hate seeing PA get a free hit on someone that may turn out a Shannon Hurn or Robbie Gray type player. He will play rd1 next year for most sides.

 

[StonesThrow]

I'm also a pretty big fan of DGB. A dominant aerial backman in today's game is very important. Only thing is we already have Doedee as that player, with McAsey (in juniors) meant to be dominant in the air. Someone will get a very good player imo.