Opinion 2020 Draft picks 1/9/22/23/40/56/66/80 (2021 + Melb 2nd, 4th, Haw 4th)

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KEY DATES

Oct 30 – Nov 6: AFL Free Agency Period
November 4 – 12: AFL Trade Period
November 20: List Lodgment 1
November 27: List Lodgment 2
November 30: AFL Draft Nominations close
w/c December 7: NAB AFL Draft and Rookie Draft (exact date to be confirmed in due course)
Mid-December: Final List Lodgment & TPP estimates​

As God is my witness, finding anything useful on the AFL.com.au site is practically impossible, may whoever designed it burn in hell.

 

[Dewy006]

Which others please? Just want to check them out

Analysis - Phantom draft consensus

UPDATE (9-Dec) - I have updated the consensus with most of the recent phantoms/mocks. Every time I update it, another one drops somewhere. I've had to draw a line so that I get something out before draft night. Note this now incorporates 16 phantoms, most updated in the last couple of weeks...

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A poster over on the draft board has collated all the phantom drafts he can get his hands on and then put together a consensus phantom. Thilthorpe on that is No 4 with a range from Pick 4 to Pick 7. No one has him top 3.

 

[Johnny Rutten]

Who ranks him 5 or 6?

If you look at most of the phantom/mock drafts, Thilthorpe has mostly ranged between 4 and 6. With 6 being the number I have mostly seen him at.

 

[Kezza86]

Unless we or North bid on Campbell (which I don’t think we will) there is zero chance Sydney trade out of 3. ZERO.

That is why you try separate 3 with 2 1st rounders. Swan accumulate more points with 2 firsts than just having pick 3. I don’t expect Campbell to be bid on until after pick 5.

 

[Kezza86]

If you look at most of the phantom/mock drafts, Thilthorpe has mostly ranged between 4 and 6. With 6 being the number I have mostly seen him at.

That ranking changes if crows get band 1 compo. It’s widely expected Hollands, McDonald and Thilthorpe will be the first 3 players called. ATM the order is just unknown.

 

[dogs105]

If you look at most of the phantom/mock drafts, Thilthorpe has mostly ranged between 4 and 6. With 6 being the number I have mostly seen him at.

Thanks. Where are these published?

 

[Mutineer]

Just uploaded to Youtube...Impressive highlight reel.

As I've noted before....his kicking has improved incrementally from 2 years ago.

 

[Johnny Rutten]

Thanks. Where are these published?

See Dewy006's post above. That's a good summary.

 

[Jcpdragonx]

End of R2 for Atkins EZ dub

 

[Dewy006]

That is why you try separate 3 with 2 1st rounders. Swan accumulate more points with 2 firsts than just having pick 3. I don’t expect Campbell to be bid on until after pick 5.

Ummm no you don’t? They keep 3 and draft a really highly rated kid, and then match a bid for Campbell with late filler and go into deficit if need be. I say again, there is ZERO chance they trade 3 unless a bid for Campbell comes in at 1 or 2.

 

[relapse]

Which others please? Just want to check them out

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_...ower-rankings-key-forwards-jostling-no-1-rank

Has Thilthorpe at 6

Even with Ugan-Hagan out of the equation, no one has Thilthrope ranked as the best available player. Reality is that if we take Thilthorpe at 1 it's only because he's local and not because he's the best available player

 

[Mutineer]

Zac Dumensy's just uploaded SANFL highlight reel.

 

[Mutineer]

Malachy Curruthers' just uploaded SANFL highlight reel.

 

[Kezza86]

Ummm no you don’t? They keep 3 and draft a really highly rated kid, and then match a bid for Campbell with late filler and go into deficit if need be. I say again, there is ZERO chance they trade 3 unless a bid for Campbell comes in at 1 or 2.

Depends on if crows or Roos threaten to bid on Campbell. It’s the same with the dogs. Especially if crows get band 1 they may decide to down grade if they get MacDonald from Melbourne.

Basically it depends on what swans are after. They probably want a tall forward but will miss out on Thilthorpe and McDonald.

 

[Dewy006]

Depends on if crows or Roos threaten to bid on Campbell. It’s the same with the dogs. Especially if crows get band 1 they may decide to down grade if they get MacDonald from Melbourne.

Basically it depends on what swans are after. They probably want a tall forward but will miss out on Thilthorpe and McDonald.

We can threaten all we want, they can always trade down after a bid comes in on draft night. They definitely won’t be doing any deal before then.

 

[Kezza86]

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_...ower-rankings-key-forwards-jostling-no-1-rank

Has Thilthorpe at 6

Even with Ugan-Hagan out of the equation, no one has Thilthrope ranked as the best available player. Reality is that if we take Thilthorpe at 1 it's only because he's local and not because he's the best available player

Thilthorpe will be drafted by crows or roos. He won’t get past 4. Depending if Roos bid on Ugan-Hagan.

 

[Mutineer]

Thilthorpe will be drafted by crows or roos. He won’t get past 4. Depending if Roos bid on Ugan-Hagan.

You honestly believe the Crows will take Thilthorpe with pick 1?

I have my doubts.

 

[Kezza86]

You honestly believe the Crows will take Thilthorpe with pick 1?

I have my doubts.

Maybe pick 2 if they get band 1. Pick 1 Hollands pick 2/3 is Thilthorpe and McDonald

 

[Hodgy]

So Rory Atkins

2

Rory Atkins

Age

29

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

367.4

5star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.3

1star

T

2.7

4star

MG

147.7

3star

D

14.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.2

3star

MG

217.8

4star

compo is end of second. That should be pick 36 I believe.

 

[Mutineer]

Maybe pick 2 if they get band 1. Pick 1 Hollands pick 2/3 is Thilthorpe and McDonald

Personally I think the only way we take Thilthorpe is if we hold pick 1 and 2 and even then I think there is a very strong chance we take McDonald over him....different story if he happens to get through to pick 8 which seems unlikely but not totally out of the question.

 

[Vader]

So Rory Atkins

2

Rory Atkins

Age

29

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

367.4

5star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.3

1star

T

2.7

4star

MG

147.7

3star

D

14.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.2

3star

MG

217.8

4star

compo is end of second. That should be pick 36 I believe.

Currently pick #38.
18 teams x2 rounds = 36
GC were also given a mid-1st round pick (pick #11) for being incompetent. Geelong currently owns this pick.

That's 37 picks before our "end of 2nd round" compensation pick, making it #38.

 

[Kezza86]

Personally I think the only way we take Thilthorpe is if we hold pick 1 and 2 and even then I think there is a very strong chance we take McDonald over him....different story if he happens to get through to pick 8 which seems unlikely but not totally out of the question.

I also think crows will try and use pick 2 to milk something out of roos for McDonald. Talk is Roos are keen to take McDonald. If crows did this I would swap 21 1st rounders.

 

[dogs105]

Currently pick #38.
18 teams x2 rounds = 36
GC were also given a mid-1st round pick (pick #11) for being incompetent. Geelong currently owns this pick.

That's 37 picks before our "end of 2nd round" compensation pick, making it #38.

36 apparently just now

 

[hey shorty]

Personally I think the only way we take Thilthorpe is if we hold pick 1 and 2 and even then I think there is a very strong chance we take McDonald over him....different story if he happens to get through to pick 8 which seems unlikely but not totally out of the question.

I don't think it's out of the question we take Philips and Hollands personally.

If Riley lasts to 8 I don't think we could say his name fast enough

 

[Vader]

36 apparently just now

Somebody can't add up... and I'm fairly sure it's not my maths which is failing.

36 would place it ahead of Richmond and Geelong's 2nd round picks.

 

[Hodgy]

Currently pick #38.
18 teams x2 rounds = 36
GC were also given a mid-1st round pick (pick #11) for being incompetent. Geelong currently owns this pick.

That's 37 picks before our "end of 2nd round" compensation pick, making it #38.

I’m taking the clubs having deficits into account. Assuming the table Pinned above is accurate then our compo pick would come in just before Bulldogs pick at start of 3rd.