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which means it won’t happen
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IF Cox and Reid are gone could we be Trying to Trade Up to make sure we can Draft Stone?
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Derek "Pull The Lever" Hine!
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Collingwood will be working “the phones” with rival AFL clubs before Wednesday night’s national draft as it looks to aggressively move up the order with recruiting manager Derek Hine saying the Magpies want to secure four picks inside the top 40.
Currently, the Magpies have picks 14 and 16 in the first round, but Hine is hopeful the club can move up the list by offering options for next year’s draft.
The Magpies were soundly criticised for their trade period action with the departure of key players Adam Treloar and Jaidyn Stephenson, but Hine is confident the draft booty can partly show fans the rationale behind those contentious moves.
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Magpies recruiting manager Derek Hine will be working the phones before the national draft. Picture: Mark Stewart
Collingwood has a swag of late picks — including 65, 66, 68 and 75 — which it wants to upgrade. Hine indicated the club will be one of the most active participants with an intention to use five or six picks.
“We will look at the scope to be trading up ... to come in at the front end of the draft,” Hine told the club’s website. “We have a lot of scope there.
“We are mindful we have got various levers from the 2021 group of picks we have got that we can use to get into this particular draft, which we clearly rate highly. We go to the draft with the potential to have six picks, but that’s not to say we will take all the picks.”
On a day in which the Magpies announced the re-signing of four players — Jordan De Goey, Brody Mihocek, Levi Greenwood and Anton Tohill — Hine said the club’s list management strategy would become clearer in part after the national draft.
He also said it would give the Magpies greater flexibility to attack the free agency period next year.
“We have got two picks inside the first round (on Wednesday night) and we haven’t been in that position for quite some time,” he said.
“The last time we had two picks inside 20 was De Goey and (Darcy) Moore. We would like to build on that.
“The plan is to potentially have four to five picks inside the (top) 40, which will set us up really well.
Reef McInnes is on Collingwood’s radar at the national draft. Picture: Dylan Burns/Getty Images
“The decisions we have made in the last four to five weeks haven’t just happened ... it is important we use all levers to get up the list. That doesn’t only include the draft, it includes the way we develop our players and the way we attack free agency.”
Collingwood is eligible to match any bid for its Next Generation Academy player Reef McInnes, with Hine saying the club had a good reading on his potential, despite the fact he missed out on playing this year due to the pandemic.
“He is a unique talent, he stands at 193cm now and he has shown scope in all areas of the ground,” Hine said of McInnes.
“I see him playing initially back and then maybe working through the midfield.
“He has been unable to present like the interstate boys. That has been a bit of a frustration for Reef and for us, as well as the other Victorian boys.
“He has sustained a period of time where he has had injuries. He seems to be over them now.
“We have a small advantage in that we know him really well through the NGA programs ... (but) it is only marginal.”
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I don’t think we have to trade up to get Stone.
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That draft should be the closest to what will happen imo.
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Post-Human
With Hine Talking about QLD and SA is there any Mature Age KPF's from those States we could Pick?
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I was watching the nab league prelim final with oakleigh last week (it's on youtube if anyone wants to have a look)and Stone is playing. He kicks a couple of really nice goals,
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I hope so mate, seriously. Have a look at our top 10 from the Copeland this year, only 2 top 10 picks - one from 2005!!!!
We have absolutely scorched our top picks in the last decade and have nothing to show for 5 years of 1st rounders.
It’s been the difference between a flag and where we are.
Hopefully Hines last draft.
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Bit hard when we keep trading away our 1st Rounders
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12. COLLINGWOOD
(Matching Adelaide’s bid)
REEF McINNES
Defender/forward, 193cm, 86kg
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
Spent most of last year playing at either end of the ground, but it’s his projection as a tall inside-midfielder, with elite speed, which is what could see an early bid from the Crows.
IN THE MIX: An early bid from the Crows might be the only way to pry the talented prospect away from the Pies. Collingwood’s eagerness to take another player before McInnes - maybe Connor Stone - could see the club trade up on draft night.
*With no trades taken into account here, after the 20% discount, matching the bid for McInnes will absorb Collingwood’s first pick.
19. COLLINGWOOD
FINLAY MACRAE
Midfielder, 186cm, 78kg
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
Just like his half-brother Jackson, Finlay Macrae is clean and clever in traffic and makes great decisions with ball in-hand. The 186cm midfielder, who sees the game so well, was one who was tipped to take another big leap with more responsibility in 2020.
IN THE MIX: Macrae would be hard to pass up here, but Cook will appeal if the Giants overlook him.
(Matching Adelaide’s bid)
REEF McINNES
Defender/forward, 193cm, 86kg
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
Spent most of last year playing at either end of the ground, but it’s his projection as a tall inside-midfielder, with elite speed, which is what could see an early bid from the Crows.
IN THE MIX: An early bid from the Crows might be the only way to pry the talented prospect away from the Pies. Collingwood’s eagerness to take another player before McInnes - maybe Connor Stone - could see the club trade up on draft night.
*With no trades taken into account here, after the 20% discount, matching the bid for McInnes will absorb Collingwood’s first pick.
19. COLLINGWOOD
FINLAY MACRAE
Midfielder, 186cm, 78kg
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
Just like his half-brother Jackson, Finlay Macrae is clean and clever in traffic and makes great decisions with ball in-hand. The 186cm midfielder, who sees the game so well, was one who was tipped to take another big leap with more responsibility in 2020.
IN THE MIX: Macrae would be hard to pass up here, but Cook will appeal if the Giants overlook him.
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The other tid bit I found interesting was his comments about the top key position players being top 12. I expect we'll aim for a pick inside that range. I imagine that means Cox is rated 12.
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I don't mind that one12. COLLINGWOOD
(Matching Adelaide’s bid)
REEF McINNES
Defender/forward, 193cm, 86kg
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
Spent most of last year playing at either end of the ground, but it’s his projection as a tall inside-midfielder, with elite speed, which is what could see an early bid from the Crows.
IN THE MIX: An early bid from the Crows might be the only way to pry the talented prospect away from the Pies. Collingwood’s eagerness to take another player before McInnes - maybe Connor Stone - could see the club trade up on draft night.
*With no trades taken into account here, after the 20% discount, matching the bid for McInnes will absorb Collingwood’s first pick.
19. COLLINGWOOD
FINLAY MACRAE
Midfielder, 186cm, 78kg
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
Just like his half-brother Jackson, Finlay Macrae is clean and clever in traffic and makes great decisions with ball in-hand. The 186cm midfielder, who sees the game so well, was one who was tipped to take another big leap with more responsibility in 2020.
IN THE MIX: Macrae would be hard to pass up here, but Cook will appeal if the Giants overlook him.
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and with us just giving up our 1st Round Pick to Match that Bid on Reef.
Hine do that in a Hearbeat
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I wish I didn’t read the age now.
I’ll be disappointed if we don’t draft Reef, Stone & Cox.
I’ll be disappointed if we don’t draft Reef, Stone & Cox.
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I’d say it means he has both Reid and Cox within that range.
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Very Sad Reading
Geez, we are terrible poker players!
What’s with telegraphing all our moves and thereby looking desperate and undermining their value? Hine has just told all Clubs what we want/need to do and they’ll now know that they can offer unders on a “take it or leave it” basis and as the clock runs down we’ll probably flinch and accept.
Why not just publicly shut the hell up and then be judged when the dust settles???
Instead, Hine has now told all Pies supporters and rival Clubs that the pass mark is getting 4-5 picks in this year’s top 40. So they’ll probably have to sell the farm in terms of 2021 (and 2022?) picks to hit that target, because after the Treloar and Stevo trades debacle can’t afford to look foolish again.
It really is amateur hour down at the Holden Centre!
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Positive side of things at least the only way is up.
