List Mgmt. 2020 Draft Thread

[Harry O]

Can you pass on early picks?

Could trade one

 

[Billys Back]

Raynar still a Good Forward

Yeah he is ok. A number 1 pick? I don't think so. And I'm sure he wasn't recruited to just be a small forward.
But we aren't talking about him being a forward. He was a midfielder. And I dare say he would have played more as a midfielder if he had the tank to do so. That's why he was recruited.

You said it's easy to build up a tank. All I am saying is that it's not always the case to build a tank to play midfield.

 

[Billys Back]

I know it’s a bit of the unknown but I think it’s unlikely too. I think they are more of a chance to bid on Swans NGA Campbell in that suite of picks. I think the Giants at 13 or 15 are a chance though.

If it goes:

JUH - Dogs (bid match)
Logan Mac - Crows
Hollands - North
DGB - Swans
Thilthorpe - Hawks
Phillips - Suns
Campbell - Swans (Ess bid match)

Then from there I think the Dons would go with 2 mids Bruhn & Perkins (or even Fin Macrae) and one of Reid/Chapman/Henry as a KP type.

Fingers crossed anyway.



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i agree that GWS are a chance. But I suppose we will still have another pick. It's a guessing game which I suspect the club will be clearer on who is doing what closer to the draft.

 

[sr36]

Yeah he is ok. A number 1 pick? I don't think so. And I'm sure he wasn't recruited to just be a small forward.
But we aren't talking about him being a forward. He was a midfielder. And I dare say he would have played more as a midfielder if he had the tank to do so. That's why he was recruited.

You said it's easy to build up a tank. All I am saying is that it's not always the case to build a tank to play midfield.

Like Petracca, I think he'll get there.

 

[Apples]

Is it? Remember there were concerns with Cam Raynor's tank and he still blows a gale playing in the forward line. They can't get him into the midfield.

He has explosive pace, but ran last in the 2km time trial. That's not as significant as it might seem. Grundy consistently runs last in our 2km time trial and nobody says he has no tank; just the opposite.

 

[sr36]

He has explosive pace, but ran last in the 2km time trial. That's not as significant as it might seem. Grundy consistently runs last in our 2km time trial and nobody says he has no tank; just the opposite.

recovery and repeat efforts is more important than running long distance at a steady pace.

 

[THATSGOLD]

Campbell Is a beautiful kick of the ball, there's no better evidence than his highlights. What his highlights also show is his natural left foot dominance, where is his right foot. He can use his right foot but is it as natural as his left.

That's why I like Hollands so much, it's natural for Hollands to move left or right in traffic because he can use either side of his body to distribute the footy.

People said Peter Yagmor was the best kick they had ever seen too. He won Buckleys kicking game....

 

[Bay Pie]

Are they actually going to use all 3 of those picks though?

Their last pick is the one I'd target. It'll be pick 11 by the time it's "live". Look to trade for it on the night. I think Essendon will bid on both Campbell and Jones, sliding pick 8 to pick 11. Thankfully Essendon will only have 5 minutes to decide whether they accept of 2021 1st rounder for that pick. Then we can move on to Adelaide, for pick 12, if they decide against it.

 

[Jen2310]

After their busy Trade Periods, Collingwood, Essendon, North Melbourne and Greater Western Sydney all look set for the biggest investment in the 2020 draft pool by using either four or five picks

How many picks will your club use at the NAB AFL Draft?

Clubs are deciding how many selections they will use at next month's intake of players

www.afl.com.au

 

[Crazy Tails]

So in the latest AFL draft article they are saying Suns and West Coast are likely to only take 1 live pick. Forget the Eagles as their picks are all late but we should target the Suns later picks. Suns will take 3 players but 2 they can pre list outside the draft.

As a result they are likely only going to need pick 5. We should use one of our future 2nd round picks to see if they’ll give up 27 and 37. Should give us plenty of points for Reef.



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[gopies123]

Here’s the latest on L Browns mock draft. There is so much talent after pick 20

Lachlan Brown's Mock Free Agency, Trade, Draft and Rookie Draft period

Lachlan Brown's Mock Free Agency, Trade, Draft and Rookie Draft period

Giant Strides would you like me to make you owner of the OP - or pin your post to the top of every page - so you can continue to update the order in a more prominent position? Thanks Jeremias, I don't want to take it over, but if you'd like to pin it so I have access to it to update. (Just...

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[Apex36]

Here’s the latest on L Browns mock draft. There is so much talent after pick 20

Lachlan Brown's Mock Free Agency, Trade, Draft and Rookie Draft period

Lachlan Brown's Mock Free Agency, Trade, Draft and Rookie Draft period

Giant Strides would you like me to make you owner of the OP - or pin your post to the top of every page - so you can continue to update the order in a more prominent position? Thanks Jeremias, I don't want to take it over, but if you'd like to pin it so I have access to it to update. (Just...

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Of course there is! Guys like Rioli went top 10 lol!

 

[gopies123]

Of course there is! Guys like Rioli went top 10 lol!

Yes but even with those stupid early picks the draft runs pretty deep. Just thinking is it better to trade high and get 2-3 kids in or a bit lower to get 3-4??


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[Aussie pie]

I don’t follow the young players nor do I really follow draft orders etc but knowing that our biggest need is KPF I’d be more than happy for us to try and trade into the top 4 in the draft, knowing that there are some very good talls out there. Mids are everywhere but I’d really be going hard to get a tall. Just my opinion but they are there let’s be bold and go after them.

 

[TradeDraft]

I don’t follow the young players nor do I really follow draft orders etc but knowing that our biggest need is KPF I’d be more than happy for us to try and trade into the top 4 in the draft, knowing that there are some very good talls out there. Mids are everywhere but I’d really be going hard to get a tall. Just my opinion but they are there let’s be bold and go after them.

We would have to get Pick 1 or 2 to get McDonald

 

[gopies123]

Yeah it’s tough. I don’t think the pies would do 3 first rounders for pick 1 or 2 but that’s the discussion. We could do it and take Macdonald and Reef which would be pretty good. Or look to lessor likes like Callow and pick up another future gun like Cox or Ford. Macdonald being Reinwoldt like and Callow like Darling.

Would you prefer Reinwoldt or Blicvas (Cox)/Rozee (Ford) plus darling??? It’s tough. Either way we’re looking at getting some great talent. Unless Hine stuffs it up!


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[DaVe86]

The two players id love are Cox and Cook.

Would love those 2, but don't reckon they'll slide to 14 and 16. Obviously I'm hoping Reef slides through too. The other is Perkins but also doubt he slides through.

Lets see how we go.

 

[Soups]

The two players id love are Cox and Cook.

Would love those 2, but don't reckon they'll slide to 14 and 16. Obviously I'm hoping Reef slides through too. The other is Perkins but also doubt he slides through.

Lets see how we go.

Cook will be available imo. He’s a good Stevo replacement.

 

[TradeDraft]

The two players id love are Cox and Cook.

Would love those 2, but don't reckon they'll slide to 14 and 16. Obviously I'm hoping Reef slides through too. The other is Perkins but also doubt he slides through.

Lets see how we go.

Cox might be there but I doubt Cook would be.

I could see us Picking McRae IF Avaliable

 

[DaVe86]

The big consideration here is where we think the bid for Reef will come.

In just about all the Phantom Drafts I've seen, Reef is placed around 10-16. So there is a huge likelihood he gets a bid, particularly by Essendon if they have the 3 picks.

If we anticipate a bid, then we'd lose pick 14 anyway to match.

Therefore, there would be merit in trading both 14 & 16 to try and get inside the Reef bid. The outcome here would be a superior pick to what we'd get at 14 anyway, and Reef as well. As opposed to Reef and whatever pick is left at 16 (considering we'd have blown 14 on the matched bid)

The net result would be the same that we'd get 2 kids...only this way we get a better kid to go with Reef.

If there is then an early bid on Reef, that's when we can consider bringing forward the future 1st to try and get a current pick around 10-14. That way we get a top 8 pick (from 14 & 16), Reef and another good kid.

Could end up looking something like Cox, Reef and Cook/Perkins.

Otherwise, if the bid doesn't come, we've lost a potential player, but could still look to bring the future pick.

I reckon Essendon might be looking to split pick 8. They've delisted quite a few players. I think they are running with about 31 listed players at the moment. So I assume they are wanting a big draft haul.

 

[gopies123]

I think pies wait to see IF an early bid is made for Reef then match. Then go into picks trade mode. Use next year second round with our next pick to try and grab the very next pick. Then the other 2021 second round from dogs with 2021 first to get the very next pick again.

Or wait and see if we can use 14 and 16 before reef then move into pick swap mode.


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[Masked Magician]

I think pies wait to see IF an early bid is made for Reef then match. Then go into picks trade mode. Use next year second round with our next pick to try and grab the very next pick. Then the other 2021 second round from dogs with 2021 first to get the very next pick again.

Or wait and see if we can use 14 and 16 before reef then move into pick swap mode.


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If Reef isn't bid on by pick 13 I would go to GWS.

I would trade our pick 16 and next years first
for their pick 13 and 15 (and also a future 3rd used for daics next year)

This would give us pick 13,14 and 15 + matching a bid on Reef beyond pick 15

We get pick 13,14,15 and GWS 2021 Third Rd.

GWS get 16 and Coll 2021 First Rd.

 

[soreplums]

The big consideration here is where we think the bid for Reef will come.

In just about all the Phantom Drafts I've seen, Reef is placed around 10-16. So there is a huge likelihood he gets a bid, particularly by Essendon if they have the 3 picks.

If we anticipate a bid, then we'd lose pick 14 anyway to match.

Therefore, there would be merit in trading both 14 & 16 to try and get inside the Reef bid. The outcome here would be a superior pick to what we'd get at 14 anyway, and Reef as well. As opposed to Reef and whatever pick is left at 16 (considering we'd have blown 14 on the matched bid)

The net result would be the same that we'd get 2 kids...only this way we get a better kid to go with Reef.

If there is then an early bid on Reef, that's when we can consider bringing forward the future 1st to try and get a current pick around 10-14. That way we get a top 8 pick (from 14 & 16), Reef and another good kid.

Could end up looking something like Cox, Reef and Cook/Perkins.

Otherwise, if the bid doesn't come, we've lost a potential player, but could still look to bring the future pick.

I reckon Essendon might be looking to split pick 8. They've delisted quite a few players. I think they are running with about 31 listed players at the moment. So I assume they are wanting a big draft haul.

I’ve been wrestling with this too.

Did I read yesterday that we can use points from late picks to match bids and we don’t have to use our next available (ie we don’t need to use 14 or 16 if we bring picks in)?

If so, I like the thinking earlier of trying to trade a future second to the suns for picks 27 and the next if they are only taking one live pick in the draft.

 

[Billys Back]

If a pick comes for Reef in the top 10, I would be letting him go.....

 

[Apex36]

The big consideration here is where we think the bid for Reef will come.

In just about all the Phantom Drafts I've seen, Reef is placed around 10-16. So there is a huge likelihood he gets a bid, particularly by Essendon if they have the 3 picks.

If we anticipate a bid, then we'd lose pick 14 anyway to match.

Therefore, there would be merit in trading both 14 & 16 to try and get inside the Reef bid. The outcome here would be a superior pick to what we'd get at 14 anyway, and Reef as well. As opposed to Reef and whatever pick is left at 16 (considering we'd have blown 14 on the matched bid)

The net result would be the same that we'd get 2 kids...only this way we get a better kid to go with Reef.

If there is then an early bid on Reef, that's when we can consider bringing forward the future 1st to try and get a current pick around 10-14. That way we get a top 8 pick (from 14 & 16), Reef and another good kid.

Could end up looking something like Cox, Reef and Cook/Perkins.

Otherwise, if the bid doesn't come, we've lost a potential player, but could still look to bring the future pick.

I reckon Essendon might be looking to split pick 8. They've delisted quite a few players. I think they are running with about 31 listed players at the moment. So I assume they are wanting a big draft haul.

Are you talking about phantom drafts or power rankings? Because I’ve seen quite a few proper phantoms recently that have him at about 20. eDPS who works with Pie 4 Life at AFL draft central has had Reef at 10 in his power rankings all year but has him at 20 in his most recent phantom. He and P4L are the types on here who actually have industry connections too so hear more stuff about who’s interested in which kid than us.