List Mgmt. 2020 Draft

[George]

 

[StCicatriz]

fox sports running with:

PICK 25: ST KILDA – NATHAN O’DRISCOLL

Clubs: Perth/Western Australia

Position: Midfielder

Size: 187cm/78kg

Bio: The 18-year-old has a bigger frame that is made for the centre of the ground. He has a long kick and bashes his way through the contest, averaging 6.7 tackles and 16 disposals in the Under 18 Championships last year. His work at WAFL level this year has impressed AFL club recruiters and he has shown a good ability to rack up the disposals.

In the mix: West Australians O’Driscoll and Zane Trew have been discussed, as have Max Holmes and Eddie Ford. The latter might end up a late pick or rookie. Jack Carroll will also be considered by the Saints.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Any picks that are required to match the points are forfeited. This year they are able to use as many picks as required to reach the draft value index corresponding to the pick that the player is drafted. If there is a surplus of draft value index points, a new pick is created and granted to the club.

Let's say Essendon bid at pick 8 (1551) points, Collingwood would need to find 1241 points.

In this scenario, Collingwood would use picks 14 ( 1161) and 16 (1067) to match the bid.

The remaining 987 DVI points would then create a new pick at Pick 18.

If Essendon were going to bid for a player, they would be wiser to do it with their first pick, not their 3rd and that could make a big difference

By bidding with pick 6 instead of 8, the pies would be given pick 24.

From a strategy point of view ( and not just to screw the pies ) it makes more sense too.
If they really wanted him, Pies might decide not to match if their second pick went so much later.

 

[StCicatriz]

 

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[StCicatriz]

Nathan O'DRISCOLL | WAFL

Nathan O'DRISCOLL | WAFL

www.wafl.com.au

 

[StCicatriz]

45 seconds in, interesting if TRUE

 

[StCicatriz]

if the rumour is true and adelaide take mcdonald at pick 2, they could upgrade their draft order and grab odriscoll before us given they have picks 22 and 23 immediately after us. GWS could look at swapping with them.

 

[StCicatriz]

anyone else not really a fan of Poulter?

 

[Joffaboy]

if the rumour is true and adelaide take mcdonald at pick 2, they could upgrade their draft order and grab odriscoll before us given they have picks 22 and 23 immediately after us. GWS could look at swapping with them.

Oh well we will take someone else. Think we are only using a first rounder so we can trade out our first next year.

 

[StCicatriz]

Oh well we will take someone else. Think we are only using a first rounder so we can trade out our first next year.

agree 100%

its the only thing that makes sense on why we were so keen to keep the first this year. it wasn't just a case of seeing whats better between this draft and next either. we seemed to be absolutely rock solid steadfast in needing to keep next years which means the talent we are after is immediately elite. also implies its not a free agent.

 

[Stewart66]

seems Ratten has agreed with Richo and also Longmuir given he also didn't play him in the guts and had relegated him to the forward line

so who's wrong here? 3 AFL coaches and 2 different AFL clubs? or is Acres ability as an inside mid just over-rated on here

Ratten poured hours into Blake for that type of role I was there Ratts was in caretaker mode for few weeks
.. they wanted Brad Hill needed the deal done at all costs.

Already mentioned Fremantle have ....Fyfe....as said he‘s at Freo wish him well.

Have a look at Daniel McKenzie

36

Daniel Mckenzie

Age

29

Ht

184cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

5.6

2star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.7

4star

CL

0.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

4.6

2star

HB

8.4

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.0

3star

‘s replays at Oakleigh Under 18s as an attacking Wingman ran with gay
abandon ....Richo turned him into a timid lockdown defender , even when if he went to take spectacular
marks he would be discouraged lost all confidence was completely slaughtered in belief he can play
with flair , frightened of making a mistake which invariably happened.

 

[StCicatriz]

ROFL essendon done it again, surely trying to psych out the opposition

 

[StCicatriz]

1 – Western Bulldogs (matching Adelaide's bid) – Jamarra Ugle-Hagan
2 – Adelaide – Riley Thilthorpe
3 – North Melbourne – Elijah Hollands
4 – Sydney – Denver Grainger-Barras
5 – Hawthorn – Logan McDonald
6 – Gold Coast – Will Phillips
7 – Essendon – Tanner Bruhn
8 – Essendon – Zach Reid
9 – Sydney (matching Essendon's bid) – Braeden Campbell
10 – Essendon – Oliver Henry
11 – Adelaide – Reef McInnes
12 – Greater Western Sydney – Heath Chapman
13 –North Melbourne – Tom Powell
14 – Fremantle – Brayden Cook
15 – Greater Western Sydney – Nik Cox
16 – Collingwood – Archie Perkins
17 – Port Adelaide (matching Greater Western Sydney's bid) – Lachie Jones
18 – Greater Western Sydney – Bailey Laurie
19 – Collingwood – Conor Stone
20 – Richmond – Finlay Macrae
21 – Melbourne – Jack Carroll
22 – Sydney (Matching Melbourne's bid) – Errol Gulden
23 – Melbourne – Max Holmes
24 – Greater Western Sydney – Luke Pedlar
25 – Hawthorn – Connor Downie
26 – St Kilda – Nathan O'Driscoll
27 – Adelaide – Caleb Poulter
28 – Adelaide – Liam Kolar
29 – Brisbane – Sam Berry
30 – Greater Western Sydney – Shannon Neale

 

[StCicatriz]

Ratten poured hours into Blake for that type of role I was there Ratts was in caretaker mode for few weeks
.. they wanted Brad Hill needed the deal done at all costs.

Already mentioned Fremantle have ....Fyfe....as said he‘s at Freo wish him well.

Have a look at Daniel McKenzie

36

Daniel Mckenzie

Age

29

Ht

184cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

5.6

2star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.7

4star

CL

0.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

4.6

2star

HB

8.4

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.0

3star

‘s replays at Oakleigh Under 18s as an attacking Wingman ran with gay
abandon ....Richo turned him into a timid lockdown defender , even when if he went to take spectacular
marks he would be discouraged lost all confidence was completely slaughtered in belief he can play
with flair , frightened of making a mistake which invariably happened.

ratts never played acres inside, but you think he wanted to play him there?

freo have also been playing fyfe forward alot more and are using pretty sub par players like conca in there. acres isn't getting game time as an inside mid because fyfe is there, there's 2-3 other spots available in there. he isn't getting game time there because they don't rate him as an inside mid.

 

[Stewart66]

ratts never played acres inside, but you think he wanted to play him there?

Yes I do.

freo have also been playing fyfe forward alot more and are using pretty sub par players like conca in there. acres isn't getting game time as an inside mid because fyfe is there, there's 2-3 other spots available in there. he isn't getting game time there because they don't rate him as an inside mid.

Acres is gone ...wish him well .

 

[Stewart66]

PICK 25: ST KILDA – NATHAN O’DRISCOLL

Clubs: Perth/Western Australia

Position: Midfielder

Size: 187cm/78kg

Bio: The 18-year-old has a bigger frame that is made for the centre of the ground. He has a long kick and bashes his way through the contest, averaging 6.7 tackles and 16 disposals in the Under 18 Championships last year. His work at WAFL level this year has impressed AFL club recruiters and he has shown a good ability to rack up the disposals.

In the mix: West Australians O’Driscoll and Zane Trew have been discussed, as have Max Holmes and Eddie Ford. The latter might end up a late pick or rookie. Jack Carroll will also be considered by the Saints.

PICK 50: ST KILDA - HENRY SMITH

Clubs: Woodville-West Torrens/South Australia

Position: Key Forward/Ruck

Size: 204cm/96kg

Bio: Smith had a strong bottom-age season that put his draft chances firmly on the radar. With a long reach and ability to play forward, Smith was often utilised deep close to goal at SANFL Under 18s level where he booted more than a goal per game on average. While he does have some work to do athletically, his ground work efforts are strong and it means he could come into consideration as a late pick/rookie.

In the mix: St Kilda may elect to pass this selection, but it seems likely they’ll aim to take a tall if they can. Eddie Ford is another name they have considered.

Full AFL phantom draft: Every pick by every club predicted by our draft expert

Full AFL phantom draft: Every pick by every club predicted by our expert

www.foxsports.com.au

Also suggests we are trying to improve our first pick to potentially pick 17. But I saw somewhere that clubs cant trade back in a pick they have already traded out.

I'll also be very disappointed if Ford is there at our 2nd pick and we pass on him.

Happy to back recruiting team with whoever we pick to be honest.

 

[StCicatriz]

Acres is gone ...wish him well .

extremely unlikely. if ratts rated him as an inside mid he would have played him there.

either 2 clubs and 3 coaches are right or bigfooty posters are. i'm going with the clubs and coaches given acres performances as an inside mid are meh.

there is no evidence to suggest they are wrong beyond peoples gut feel that is yet to eventuate.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Ratten poured hours into Blake for that type of role I was there Ratts was in caretaker mode for few weeks
.. they wanted Brad Hill needed the deal done at all costs.

Already mentioned Fremantle have ....Fyfe....as said he‘s at Freo wish him well.

Have a look at Daniel McKenzie

36

Daniel Mckenzie

Age

29

Ht

184cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

5.6

2star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.7

4star

CL

0.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

4.6

2star

HB

8.4

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.0

3star

‘s replays at Oakleigh Under 18s as an attacking Wingman ran with gay
abandon ....Richo turned him into a timid lockdown defender , even when if he went to take spectacular
marks he would be discouraged lost all confidence was completely slaughtered in belief he can play
with flair , frightened of making a mistake which invariably happened.

McKenzie struggled to get his hands on the ball. Richo tried to find a role for him.

 

[Keg still on legs]

Happy to back recruiting team with whoever we pick to be honest.

Yep. It makes a nice change to have complete faith in the people in charge

 

[StCicatriz]

cherny going with:

26 St Kilda

Jack Carroll (midfielder)
East Fremantle/Geraldton, 187cm, 76kg

Melbourne and Essendon have also been linked to Carroll who is a tidy left-footer who can break the lines. The Saints have added plenty of midfielders in recent years but not too many via the draft so while they could do with talls Carroll looks a good fit.

 

[gringo2011]

McKenzie struggled to get his hands on the ball. Richo tried to find a role for him.

He did create a beige blanket of workman like robots.

 

[Stewart66]

McKenzie struggled to get his hands on the ball. Richo tried to find a role for him.

Daniel was pigeonholed by a dour negative coach .

Draft Throwback: 2014

With their first two selections, the Saints were able to secure future bookends Paddy McCartin and Hugh Goddard, while nabbing Daniel McKenzie and Jack Lonie with pick 22 and 41.

www.saints.com.au

In saying that he’s got a smart manager got him few more years in the system.

 

[Yabadoo22]

Eddie Ford is this years Rhys Mathieson

36

Rhys Mathieson

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

3.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

18.4

5star

K

9.4

4star

HB

9.0

5star

M

2.2

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

2.8

5star

IMO, hyped all the way up to draft night, will slide to a late pick and will get drafted to another club and forever be forgotten about.

 

[BrutThough]

Daniel was pigeonholed by a dour negative coach .

Draft Throwback: 2014

With their first two selections, the Saints were able to secure future bookends Paddy McCartin and Hugh Goddard, while nabbing Daniel McKenzie and Jack Lonie with pick 22 and 41.

www.saints.com.au

In saying that he’s got a smart manager got him few more years in the system.

He was tried on the wing and up forward before he found a role at half back.

Is it really pigeonholing him if half back was the first place he consistently played decent games?

 

[BrutThough]