Fantasy 2020 - Empire League Discussion

[00Stinger]

GG.exe

Rookies
Cohen 2 years
Lattimore 2 years

Veterans
McKinney 2 years
Miller 2 years
King (Franchise Tag)

 

[Exe Gesis]

King (Franchise Tag)

What draft grade value to assign?

 

[00Stinger]

What draft grade value to assign?

since I only have one franchise tag it would make sense to 3rd round them, wouldn't it?

 

[Exe Gesis]

since I only have one franchise tag it would make sense to 3rd round them, wouldn't it?

Yes, unless you use a tag on a sought after player to get a high pick out of it

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Franchise tagging in fantasy is always good fun to try and get your head around, especially for new guys who may have never done it before.

I didn't know which way to go a few years ago either, still somewhat don't.

 

[00Stinger]

Yes, unless you use a tag on a sought after player to get a high pick out of it

so if I franchise tag King with a 1st round does that mean I get a first round compensation pick if I don't win the bidding on him?

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Rookies:

Howard, Everett, Smith, Connelly - 2 years

Harris, Ximines - 1 year

Will let you know vets at a later date... Ie: after free agency in real life.

 

[00Stinger]

Franchise tagging in fantasy is always good fun to try and get your head around, especially for new guys who may have never done it before.

I didn't know which way to go a few years ago either, still somewhat don't.

yeah I'm not sure if I am doing the right thing by franchise tagging King or signing him to a new 2 or 3 year deal and franchise tagging Von Miller as I see him as more disposable

 

[Exe Gesis]

so if I franchise tag King with a 1st round does that mean I get a first round compensation pick if I don't win the bidding on him?

Yes... IF anyone bids on him. Otherwise, you get lumped 2m for cost of a 1st grade tag. Have to assess if a player is desired or not.

 

[drd23]

Looking at the FA comp pick (2nd rounder for losing a player with a $7m+ salary), I think the salary requirement is set too high.

To be worth $7m in this system, a player needs to score 350+ in their final contracted year - something which only 1 guy (CMC) did this year. 3 others scored 350+ but are under contract, including LJ8 who was the biggest bargain.

Even if you lowered it to a $6m contract, only 3 more players would be eligible (Mahomes, Watson and Aaron Jones).

That said, it's probably moot as I'm sure the owners of all 4 of those guys will re-sign them anyway

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

yeah I'm not sure if I am doing the right thing by franchise tagging King or signing him to a new 2 or 3 year deal and franchise tagging Von Miller as I see him as more disposable

It's the joy of decision.ill give you some advice on what I personally think is the right way but people could think totally different...

If you've got a player who is young enough coming off a down year that you believe will bounce back; sign them to an extension while cheap.

If you have a vet that you believe could continue to down trend but don't want to drop incase they do bounce back, franchise tag them. What tag you use is up to you.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Looking at the FA comp pick (2nd rounder for losing a player with a $7m+ salary), I think the salary requirement is set too high.

To be worth $7m in this system, a player needs to score 350+ in their final contracted year - something which only 1 guy (CMC) did this year. 3 others scored 350+ but are under contract, including LJ8 who was the biggest bargain.

Even if you lowered it to a $6m contract, only 3 more players would be eligible (Mahomes, Watson and Aaron Jones).

That said, it's probably moot as I'm sure the owners of all 4 of those guys will re-sign them anyway

You guys said get rid of comp picks and only keep the 7m ones

 

[drd23]

yeah I'm not sure if I am doing the right thing by franchise tagging King or signing him to a new 2 or 3 year deal and franchise tagging Von Miller as I see him as more disposable

The way I look at it is I want to re-sign those vets on a cheap contract (i.e those that missed games last season) to lock them in at below market value, while I tag those that I don't think can/will sustain their level of play for multiple years (i.e older guys, those that play a position that produces volatile scoring)

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Obviously any stud vets just lock them away and take you medicine, sign them to a multi-year deal at a big price unless you have reason to believe their play/scoring will drop off significantly.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Agreed with drd and adp about how to use tags. But i also use it to try and get a draft pick. Eg, kalil mack i tagged last year for a 1st cos i didnt have a 1st, and i knew he was valued enough someone would bid on him. But sometimes i tag a player for a pick and no ones interested. Risk-reward.

 

[drd23]

You guys said get rid of comp picks and only keep the 7m ones

I know that. That's because we had comp picks all the way through the draft, and I don't think that should be brought back.

The thought that the salary requirement was really high only occurred to me when looking at my roster and seeing I have nobody anywhere near that salary, which led me to wonder how many players were even eligible for it.

But as I said, even if you lowered it to $6m it'd probably be moot, and setting it any lower devalues draft picks too much.

 

[Exe Gesis]

I know that. That's because we had comp picks all the way through the draft, and I don't think that should be brought back.

The thought that the salary requirement was really high only occurred to me when looking at my roster and seeing I have nobody anywhere near that salary, which led me to wonder how many players were even eligible for it.

But as I said, even if you lowered it to $6m it'd probably be moot, and setting it any lower devalues draft picks too much.

Well i can change it to 6m starting this year if no one objects

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

I like drds idea of lowering it. A 2nd round pick for losing guys who are worth 6m or more still seems fairly harsh imo.

 

[Exe Gesis]

I like drds idea of lowering it. A 2nd round pick for losing guys who are worth 6m or more still seems fairly harsh imo.

Ive lowered it to 6m on the front page long list of rules.

It's officially 6m now

 

[00Stinger]

GG.exe

ok change mine to

Rookies
Cohen 2 years
Lattimore 2 years

Veterans
McKinney 2 years
King 3 years

Franchise
Miller rd3

 

[Exe Gesis]

GG.exe

ok change mine to

Rookies
Cohen 2 years
Lattimore 2 years

Veterans
McKinney 2 years
King 3 years

Franchise
Miller rd3

Just in case you didnt realize...you can resign as many rookies as you want its only vets maximum two can be resogned

 

[00Stinger]

Just in case you didnt realize...you can resign as many rookies as you want its only vets maximum two can be resogned

all good Breida is my only unsigned rookie and I am happy with that

 

[drd23]

I like drds idea of lowering it. A 2nd round pick for losing guys who are worth 6m or more still seems fairly harsh imo.

I think it's fair enough considering it'd be voluntary. There are enough ways to retain a player if you want them now (between the 2 vet re-signings, franchise tags and even bidding on them in the open market) that weren't necessarily there when we originally had all those comp picks.

As I said before, I'll be surprised if any of the 4 FAs with a salary over $6m are actually available to bid on come free-agency

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Wasn’t there some change late last pre season to re-signing out of contract players?

 

[Exe Gesis]

Wasn’t there some change late last pre season to re-signing out of contract players?

No. Unlimited rookies. 2 vets. 2 tags.