2020 FA, Draft and Trade HYPOTHETICAL thread...now with new DFA speculation!

[Strapping Young Lad]

A good reference point for picks.

 

[hfc70]

Unfortunately we'd have to gift them a flag for our long term benefit. Such a dilemma.

Prob a risk worth taking
Beggars can’t be choosers sadly

 

[Sturty]

Rumours Brisbane have tabled a 3 year deal for Smith..... Fagan at it again......

 

[BurnaHawks]

Fair enough, you have had your fair share of criticism. It is interesting that you have left the midfield intact. That midfield on paper looks formidable.
They will be able to match it with the best in terms of winning the ball- Worpel, Mitchell, Shiel, JOM with Finn / Downie added in. To be fair to your
comments, even if club asks the question of the players, it does not mean they will want to move or a trade could be facilitated.

Main area that would be weakened is forward line, will have Paton/Lewis/TOB with new comers Walker/ Hanrahan. You would think could not get
much worse than bottom 4, even we had those players in this year. Most people want some level of experience to guide younger guys and slow
transition.

What would you do with those picks? would you target under 23 years old like Impey/Scrimshaw type from other clubs or go to the draft. One theory is to bottom out for 3-5 years, hit the draft and once have a nucleus, trade to get other players from other clubs, it will be a lengthy process.

Thanks for taking my comments seriously. Firstly I’m only suggesting we sell blokes who will not be playing in our next premiership. Who will be 30 next year or already 30.

Without extra first round picks we’re delaying moving up the ladder because I can’t see our position being better next year. Even if we keep those blokes in the team, so why not try and get something while we can. Keeping these blokes longer is just delaying the enviable. We need to rebuilt.

Unfortunately we left this build to late, we should have been in the draft for the past 3 years. Our prospect now would be completely different.

I don’t think we’re better than a bottom 4 side. Unfortunately the gaps in our list can’t be patched, we need a couple of elite key position players. Clubs don’t trade these blokes and if they do, there are question marks. We don’t have any real key stars. Hopefully Lewis turns into something. But I have very little hope in Paton/TOB and nothing in our backline just role players.


I would go to the draft and build. I would target key position players and try and land a couple this year. Denver Grainger-Barras is the one that will still be available at our pick. Riley Thilthorpe & Logan McDonald will be gone. I’d love Logan McDonald. Denver Grainger-Barras would give us a 10 year player our already solid (young) backline can develop around. The Then, maybe some outside class or small crafty forward or if we get lucky a dynamic game changer mid/forward to add to our already solid midfield.

Next year, our first pick. The best key forward in the draft. By the time we get the players we need to compete in finals again. Our midfield stars will be looking 30 down the barrel.

Get the key position players and build around them. We’re rebuilding I’m just hope everyone else realises before we waist another 3 years in denial.

 

[VandoHawk]

Rumours Brisbane have tabled a 3 year deal for Smith..... Fagan at it again......

Smith would be the hardest person on our list to immediately replace because while he’s 31 he still has both elite running capacity AND line breaking ability. Nobody on our list currently has those two traits. While his form has been up and down the past two years he’s still an invaluable asset and losing him would be really tough especially because he can walk as an UFA. To be honest I don’t really want to lose him unless we get second round compensation but we all know that isn’t going to happen lol.

 

[Brant]

Smith would be the hardest person on our list to immediately replace because while he’s 31 he still has both elite running capacity AND line breaking ability. Nobody on our list currently has those two traits. While his form has been up and down the past two years he’s still an invaluable asset and losing him would be really tough especially because he can walk as an UFA. To be honest I don’t really want to lose him unless we get second round compensation but we all know that isn’t going to happen lol.

2nd nowhere near worth what his onfield value is to us.

 

[theiaofseed]

We should expect a end of second round compensation (I hope) very good chance that pick 40* is all we need to match a bid for Downie.

 

[TylerDurden]

We should expect a end of second round compensation (I hope) very good chance that pick 40* is all we need to match a bid for Downie.

With be a 4th rounder. Bookmark it. He's 32.

 

[VandoHawk]

With be a 4th rounder. Bookmark it. He's 32.

Even with age taken into account the AFL surely can’t drop a 3 year deal (probably around $400,000) to a fourth rounder. I’d be guessing lock in a third or end of third rounder. Which is nowhere near what Smith is worth but we can’t do anything if he decides to walk.

 

[HAWKSBESTEVA]

Really hope smith accepts our 2 year deal... our wings stocks are horrible. Pay out ceglar just get him off the list. You don’t deserve to play AFL footy if you get towelled up by a washed up spud like Mumford

 

[HawkInExile]

As much as I love Issac Smith, I'm happy for him to explore his options so he can extend his playing career with another club while we look to rebuild.

Having said that though, we also need to be careful on how many old experienced premiership players we lose each season. We definitely need to drip feed it, because we need to keep some experienced players on our list to provide leadership and guidance to the kids we bring in via the draft. It's a balance.

Our wing position will definitely be worse in the next couple of years if we lose smith, but it also opens up a position for other players to have a crack at it as we transition and look to find a long term solution. Bit of short term pain for long term gain.

 

[Teamwork Talks]

Unfortunately we'd have to gift them a flag for our long term benefit. Such a dilemma.

Give 'em nothing

 

[Brishawk]

Can't let all the experience walk out of the door. It will be a disaster.

 

[TylerDurden]

Can't let all the experience walk out of the door. It will be a disaster.

May not have a choice.

 

[theiaofseed]

We need to keep at least one mature body in each key part of the ground. Anyone else can go on the chopping block.

Breust - Small Forward
Gunston - Tall forward
Mitchell/Omerea - Inside
Scully/Smith - Outside
Frawley - Defender

 

[Billyc]

Much rather move a better contracted player than let Smith walk for peanuts in compo as a free agent

 

[Brant]

Much rather move a better contracted player than let Smith walk for peanuts in compo as a free agent

*better contracted & worse contributing

 

[Sirlemsip]

Thanks for taking my comments seriously. Firstly I’m only suggesting we sell blokes who will not be playing in our next premiership. Who will be 30 next year or already 30.

Without extra first round picks we’re delaying moving up the ladder because I can’t see our position being better next year. Even if we keep those blokes in the team, so why not try and get something while we can. Keeping these blokes longer is just delaying the enviable. We need to rebuilt.

Unfortunately we left this build to late, we should have been in the draft for the past 3 years. Our prospect now would be completely different.

I don’t think we’re better than a bottom 4 side. Unfortunately the gaps in our list can’t be patched, we need a couple of elite key position players. Clubs don’t trade these blokes and if they do, there are question marks. We don’t have any real key stars. Hopefully Lewis turns into something. But I have very little hope in Paton/TOB and nothing in our backline just role players.


I would go to the draft and build. I would target key position players and try and land a couple this year. Denver Grainger-Barras is the one that will still be available at our pick. Riley Thilthorpe & Logan McDonald will be gone. I’d love Logan McDonald. Denver Grainger-Barras would give us a 10 year player our already solid (young) backline can develop around. The Then, maybe some outside class or small crafty forward or if we get lucky a dynamic game changer mid/forward to add to our already solid midfield.

Next year, our first pick. The best key forward in the draft. By the time we get the players we need to compete in finals again. Our midfield stars will be looking 30 down the barrel.

Get the key position players and build around them. We’re rebuilding I’m just hope everyone else realises before we waist another 3 years in denial.

DGB doesn't look like he going to be a true key back - he looks to be similar to Scrimshaw and Sicily in play style (interceptor) and we don't need another one of those.

I'd much rather see us pick best available which will be one of: JUH (maybe the WBD recruiter falls asleep and doesn't match?), Macdonald (KPF), Thilthorpe (KPF/RUC), Hollands (In/Out Mid) or Phillips (In Mid).

Absolute worst case scenario if Adelaide somehow get the 1st rounder for B.Crouch i'd still prefer to see us take a highly rated mid such as Bruhn, Campbell (bid at least to force Sydney to match), or even stretch a little for Perkins.

 

[big lad skips]

what would you like the hawks to do?

 

[TylerDurden]

Don't we have a thread for this?

 

[lethalselbow]

I thought maybe cook a nice dinner with a glass of shiraz...

 

[Mojo]

Poor Mods...

There's one topic to talk about after the season and every thread will become about it.

 

[Mojo]

I thought maybe cook a nice dinner with a glass of shiraz...

Just a glass, mate?

 

[Pessimistic]

I have an opinion I’m looking to trade for three not so flash opinions

 

[Blackhawk42]

Brisbane can have Smith if they send us Zac Bailey in return*. Bloke is a gun who can play every position.


*I know this won't happen but I can dream.

 

[eldorado]

I'd like to trade my job as mod for a Datsun 120Y right now...


THOUGHTS????