2020 Ladder Prediction

Jirik13

Norm Smith Medallist
Jan 22, 2018
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1. Richmond
2. GWS Giants
3. West Coast Eagles
4. Western Bulldogs
5. Collingwood
6. Geelong Cats
7. Melbourne
8. Hawthorn
9. North Melbourne
10. Brisbane Lions
11. Essendon
12. Port Adelaide
13. St Kilda
14. Sydney Swans
15. Gold Coast Suns
16. Fremantle
17. Adelaide Crows
18. Carlton

Personally, I think it will be crazy even competition.
As usual, injuries will be a key factor.
Top 6 for me is pretty clear. 7-12 will fight for the last two spots.
13-18 will fight out for wooden spoon.

Suns – yes, it could another wooden spoon but I will be optimistic. Another preseason under Rigby will start turning boys into men, dream run with injuries, early wins build players confidence, Bowes and Ainsworth have a break out season, Rankine wins rising star, 6-8 wins. I am looking forward watching young talent King, Luko, Rankine, Ainsworth, Bowes, Ballard, Rowell, Anderson play together.

Richmond – primed for premierships next 3 years
Giants – Jacob should improve the ruck – their only weakness
Eagles – with Kelly, Naitanui they are right there
Bulldogs – my tip to win it all together with Tigers, the list looks great
Collingwood – quality is there
Cats – hard to beat at home, still good
Melbourne – bounce back strongly with a healthy list and a full preseason under a new fitness guru, May will do hammy again
Hawtorn – genius Clarko, played well at the end of season, Mitchell back
North – some emerging talented youngsters combined with experience
Lions – for sure their depth will be tested this time, happy for them to finish bottom 6
Essendon – could slide even more as Daniher saga continues
Port – Hinkley’s last season, he could be our next assistant coach
St Kilda – Hill is a great addition but the rest I am not so sure, could surprise under Ratten
Swans – still pumping games into young players, Kennedy, Buddy will show their age
Fremantle – no outside run
Crows – rebuild
Carton- just for melts hopefully wooden spoon belong to them, it can actually happen if they get injuries
 

RowellAnderson12

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Without looking at Fixtures ill just do a rough prediction for now, gonna put us last (spoilers) don't want to get my hopes up too much

1 - Geelong
2 - Richmond (premiers)
3 - West Coast
4 - Collingwood
5 - Brisbane
6 - Western Bulldogs
7 - GWS Giants
8 - Hawthorn
9 - North Melbourne
10 - Essendon
11 - Sydney
12 - St Kilda
13 - Carlton
14 - Port Adelaide
15 - Adelaide
16 - Melbourne
17 - Fremantle
18 - Gold Coast

Geelong = flat track bullies, will dominate at geelong and choke in finals yet again.
Richmond = Primed spot for another flag, my bet again
West Coast = like geelong also flat track but will need pinch some away games
Collingwood = They have everything besides that big key forward, should be up there
Brisbane = Pretty sure they lost 1 game at the Gabba will be very tough and entering their window
Western Bulldogs = my smokey for the flag, has too much speed and skill for most sides, Keath bruce very nice additions
GWS = solid team you know what you'll get
Hawthorn = Mitchell and co will definately improve this side and they will be alot better than essendon last year
North Melb = only got them 9th cos they just compete, pretty irrevelant anyways
Essendon = not much hope for them, they don't know how to win finals
sydney = always been good, i'll back em in to win a few more with the developing kids
st kilda = just topped up their list full of b&c graders, should plod along, not concerned bout them, don't think they will make finals
carlton = if docherty cripps curnow mckay walsh and few others are healthy they could move up but they don't have much after that
port adelaide = im just being nice here, i reckon adelaide should be higher
adelaide - i dont think they will be the worst team, could easily be better than port
melbourne = almost finished last, beat us by a 1 and haven't really improved in the trade period
fremantle = no midfield, no run, just nothing, time to tank
gold coast = alot of potential no runs on the board, just the waiting game for us
 

Jirik13

Norm Smith Medallist
Jan 22, 2018
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Without looking at Fixtures ill just do a rough prediction for now, gonna put us last (spoilers) don't want to get my hopes up too much

1 - Geelong
2 - Richmond (premiers)
3 - West Coast
4 - Collingwood
5 - Brisbane
6 - Western Bulldogs
7 - GWS Giants
8 - Hawthorn
9 - North Melbourne
10 - Essendon
11 - Sydney
12 - St Kilda
13 - Carlton
14 - Port Adelaide
15 - Adelaide
16 - Melbourne
17 - Fremantle
18 - Gold Coast

Geelong = flat track bullies, will dominate at geelong and choke in finals yet again.
Richmond = Primed spot for another flag, my bet again
West Coast = like geelong also flat track but will need pinch some away games
Collingwood = They have everything besides that big key forward, should be up there
Brisbane = Pretty sure they lost 1 game at the Gabba will be very tough and entering their window
Western Bulldogs = my smokey for the flag, has too much speed and skill for most sides, Keath bruce very nice additions
GWS = solid team you know what you'll get
Hawthorn = Mitchell and co will definately improve this side and they will be alot better than essendon last year
North Melb = only got them 9th cos they just compete, pretty irrevelant anyways
Essendon = not much hope for them, they don't know how to win finals
sydney = always been good, i'll back em in to win a few more with the developing kids
st kilda = just topped up their list full of b&c graders, should plod along, not concerned bout them, don't think they will make finals
carlton = if docherty cripps curnow mckay walsh and few others are healthy they could move up but they don't have much after that
port adelaide = im just being nice here, i reckon adelaide should be higher
adelaide - i dont think they will be the worst team, could easily be better than port
melbourne = almost finished last, beat us by a 1 and haven't really improved in the trade period
fremantle = no midfield, no run, just nothing, time to tank
gold coast = alot of potential no runs on the board, just the waiting game for us
Pretty similar views except Melbourne and Brisbane.

The last year 15 Melbourne players had surgeries in the off-season and as a result missed most of preseason. This time they are healthy, did not play finals. I would be happy to see May at the bottom again.

Lions had an exceptional 2019. False window for me.They will probably regret the miss opportunity with two home games in finals. It is reasonable to expect that no injuries run comes to end. Some of their players had a career best year - Rich, Robinson, Neale, Zorko. I don't rate their depth this year after best 26-27 players. At the beginning of the season Martin is 33, Zorko 31, Robinson close to 31, Rich close to 30, Birchall 32 is not Hodge. Witherden, Rayner overrated, EY average at best, Ah Chee who knows. Other teams will put more time into them. No injuries was the key to their success.
 
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Docker Gun

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Jan 8, 2020
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Fremantle
Other Teams
Perth Scorchers, West Perth
Here's a Fremantle take on it
WLD%
1.Richmond1570103.0%
2.Geelong1390102.6%
3.Collingwood1390101.8%
4.Brisbane Lions1390101.3%
5.GWS12100101.8%
6.West Coast12100101.4%
7.Fremantle12100101.4%
8.Western Bulldogs12100100.7%
9.Port Adelaide12100100.4%
10.North Melbourne1111099.1%
11.Hawthorn10120100.3%
12.Melbourne1012099.8%
13.St Kilda1012098.2%
14.Sydney1012097.3%
15.Carlton913099.2%
16.Gold Coast913097.5%
17.Adelaide814097.7%
18.Essendon715096.9%
QF1: RICHMOND v Brisbane Lions
QF2: GEELONG v Collingwood
EF1: GWS v Western Bulldogs
EF2: West Coast v FREMANTLE

SF1: BRISBANE LIONS v GWS
SF2: COLLINGWOOD v Fremantle

PF1: Richmond v COLLINGWOOD
PF2: Geelong v BRISBANE LIONS

GF: Collingwood v BRISBANE LIONS
 
My ladder - in no way bias whatsoever

Richmond
Giants
Lions
Eagles
Port
Dockers
Collingwood
Essendon
Suns
Geelong
Saints
Hawks
Bulldogs
Carlton
Melbourne
Adelaide
North
Sydney

QF1: RICHMOND v Eagles
QF2: Giants v Lions
EF1: Port v Essendon
EF2: Fremantle v Collingwood

SF1: BRISBANE LIONS v Collingwood
SF2: Eagles v Port

PF1: RICHMOND v BRISBANE LIONS
PF2: GIANTS v Eagles

GF: RICHMOND v Giants
 

briztoon

Wannabe Draft Nuffie
Nov 28, 2015
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Gold Coast will win a premiership in the afl in the next decade
You guys are gonna rise :highbrightness::goldcoast::rainbow::fire:
Choppers & Mr Bods
Keep adding top tier talent via the draft, and I can see it happening.

I don’t believe it’ll be a fast build. But there’s enough high end talent ready to impact early in their careers, that they’ll be climbing the ladder pretty soon, and improvement should be pretty linear.
 

briztoon

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Nov 28, 2015
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1. Richmond
2. West Coast
3. GWS
4. Lions
5. Bulldogs
6. Collingwood
7. Geelong
8. Melbourne
9. Hawks
10. North
11. Port
12. Fremantle
13. Essendon
14. Sydney
15. Carlton
16. Saints
17. Adelaide
18. Suns
 

RowellAnderson12

Norm Smith Medallist
Nov 4, 2019
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Melbourne are overrated , $21 for the spoon. They haven't improved their squad that much, only the promise of a "full-preseason" into their new-old recruits. Still no key forward, Mcdonald is good but better in the backline. If they get injuries early on, it could easily end up the same as last season.
 

briztoon

Wannabe Draft Nuffie
Nov 28, 2015
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Melbourne are overrated , $21 for the spoon. They haven't improved their squad that much, only the promise of a "full-preseason" into their new-old recruits. Still no key forward, Mcdonald is good but better in the backline. If they get injuries early on, it could easily end up the same as last season.
For me it’s more about the top 7 look good. I’m still a little unsure of Brisbane, and think Collingwood and Geelong are due to start dropping off.

After the top 7, who slots in to 8th? Any team from Melbourne through to Essendon could push in to the top 8.
 
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For me it’s more about the top 7 look good. I’m still a little unsure of Brisbane, and think Collingwood and Geelong are due to start dropping off.

After the top 7, who slots in to 8th? Any team from Melbourne through to Essendon could push in to the top 8.
Collingwood and Geelong will just steal players as they have always done, won’t drop off too much.
 

briztoon

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Collingwood and Geelong will just steal players as they have always done, won’t drop off too much.
From where I wonder?

I feel there might be a shift soon, where we don’t see many big name players moving. It will mostly be fringe players.

The two SA clubs look to be getting their houses in order. So to yourselves.

GWS has almost reached a position where they’re no longer overloaded with talent.

Really it’s just Fremantle that has to sort it’s retention issues out.

I can possibly see a couple of young Vic or SA kids (not yours) wanting home in the next year or two. But not many genuine A graders.
 

Docker Gun

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Jan 8, 2020
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Perth Scorchers, West Perth
From where I wonder?

I feel there might be a shift soon, where we don’t see many big name players moving. It will mostly be fringe players.

The two SA clubs look to be getting their houses in order. So to yourselves.

GWS has almost reached a position where they’re no longer overloaded with talent.

Really it’s just Fremantle that has to sort it’s retention issues out.

I can possibly see a couple of young Vic or SA kids (not yours) wanting home in the next year or two. But not many genuine A graders.
Lachie Neal, Brad Hill, De Bour, not getting Tim Kelly. Bell hasn't got a theather in his hat yet so? :rolleyes:
 
Aug 17, 2010
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Was hoping for significant improvement but our draw looks really tough. Would be happy with 5-6 wins. Anything more would be a bonus. Injuries as always to play a huge part. Mostly I just want to see the thrashings stop and real progression from our youth.
 

Grimesy87

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May 22, 2018
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Melbourne are overrated , $21 for the spoon. They haven't improved their squad that much, only the promise of a "full-preseason" into their new-old recruits. Still no key forward, Mcdonald is good but better in the backline. If they get injuries early on, it could easily end up the same as last season.
If you think McDonald is better in the backline, you either have rocks in your head or have never watched him play there..

From mid 2017 when he went forward to end of 2018, he kicked something like 75 goals over about 25-30 games. Bloke could hardly move this year.

For what it's worth, I think the suns will get a few wins at home this year and should be over 6-7 win mark. Hopefully above Carlton and/or Essendon.
 

briztoon

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Yep, I'm pretty sure WE relisted him :oops:
You’ll have to explain that to me. Didn’t he go in to the draft and get picked up by GWS?

As far as I’m aware, players who are out of contract can decline a contract offer, and go back in to the draft. So they effectively delist themselves.

As opposed to players who are out of contract, and aren’t offered a new contract by the club. Which is being delisted by the club.
 
Dec 5, 2015
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You’ll have to explain that to me. Didn’t he go in to the draft and get picked up by GWS?

As far as I’m aware, players who are out of contract can decline a contract offer, and go back in to the draft. So they effectively delist themselves.

As opposed to players who are out of contract, and aren’t offered a new contract by the club. Which is being delisted by the club.

Deboer went at Pick 58 in the Draft held in November, 2016 and played for GWS 2017-
 

The Victorian

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Oct 23, 2018
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