List Mgmt. 2020 List Management, Free Agency & Trade thread

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List Mgmt. - 2020 List Management, Free Agency & Trade thread - Part 2

This Part 2 Continued from Part 1: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2020-list-management-free-agency-trade-thread.1241035/ What type of players does our list need? Pace, Skill, Class and and goal threat. A winger, forward flank and forward pocket are the 3 positions that we need, plus...

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[ignoramus]

Keep list the same size. Merge Melbourne & north Melbourne. Win win

And have to suffer the rolling bye?!

(Edited to insert the correct quote!)

 

[Joao]

And blakely for mine

Reckon he'll try and find a new club. Clearly behind several others and not sure he'll get a look at all if Valente comes on or we draft a top 20 mid.

 

[Lach72]

yah!

 

[Taylor]

Winning

 

[gaskin]

Cool.

 

[ImperialPurple]

The other good thing is that any compo picks that are mid-first round come in at #11, so we're safe from sliding back from that that too.

 

[fnerd]

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

The draft board had a good way of looking at the trading we did last year.

The trades we did were to get Serong, not Henry since we could have always matched with pick 10.

What did we pay for Serong?

So, what did Serong Cost us in the end

7 -> 10 (2020)
Pick 26 (2020)
Pick 22 (2019)

I still think the whole trading performance was average last year but I think its safe to say that i'd pay that price for Serong again...

 

[Docker82]

The other good thing is that any compo picks that are mid-first round come in at #11, so we're safe from sliding back from that that too.

Except that mid-first round compensation picks are not a thing*...

*except when GC and GWS came into the competition and the exact pick you’re talking about. Has not existed at any other time.

 

[Docker82]

The draft board had a good way of looking at the trading we did last year.

The trades we did were to get Serong, not Henry since we could have always matched with pick 10.

What did we pay for Serong?

So, what did Serong Cost us in the end

7 -> 10 (2020)
Pick 26 (2020)
Pick 22 (2019)

I still think the whole trading performance was average last year but I think its safe to say that i'd pay that price for Serong again...

One of those second round picks was traded for points to match a Liam Henry bid so actually had nothing to do with Serong. Wouldn’t be able to tell you which one.

Anyway it’d be interesting to see what our pick would be this year if we just took a larger deficit.

 

[Vimal Anand]

The draft board had a good way of looking at the trading we did last year.

The trades we did were to get Serong, not Henry since we could have always matched with pick 10.

What did we pay for Serong?

So, what did Serong Cost us in the end

7 -> 10 (2020)
Pick 26 (2020)
Pick 22 (2019)

I still think the whole trading performance was average last year but I think its safe to say that i'd pay that price for Serong again...

10+26+22 = serong+Henry I think.....

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[Snuffaluphagus]

One of those second round picks was traded for points to match a Liam Henry bid so actually had nothing to do with Serong. Wouldn’t be able to tell you which one.

Anyway it’d be interesting to see what our pick would be this year if we just took a larger deficit.

Yeah but that’s why you include it, we could have either paid with pick 10, or with everything else we paid. I might be missing some later picks but the above is what we paid to draft Henry instead of pick 10

 

[go_the_dockers]

yah!

With out the trade with port , pick 11 becomes pick 20 roughly.

A good trade in hind sight.

 

[Ge3ks]

yah!

That is awesome news. Our first and second picks look pretty solid now. We did well to beat the Dees and then knock them out of the finals by losing to the Bulldogs. Haha.

 

[Tbonefreo]

Blakely is crap

 

[Superkoops]

10+26+22 = serong+Henry I think.....

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Pick 24 2019 (Harry Schoenberg)
Pick 26 2020
7>10

The points we got from Port Adelaide amounted to the value of Pick 38. We traded pick 26 which will likely end up dropping to a pick in the mid 30’s after FA compo and academy/FS picks. So that trade was ok. If Ports picks were slightly higher it would have been better but that is what they had.

The Adelaide trade to secure pick 49 effectively was in Adelaide’s favour but not terrible.

It was this trade that we paid a high price:
10, 28, 2020 Carlton 4th > Pick 8

Ended up:
12 (Kysaiah Pickett) + 32 (Trent Rivers) and change for Caleb Serong

The real value was getting a pick in front of Carlton.

 

[FreoRicci]

Blakely surely is gone. He’s not going to be in future plans. Serong is a class above. Valente should stay on. Connor really did burn his credits off season over the years

 

[Taylor]

And his value is going to depend on whether his non selection in the side was related to an offer from another club during the off season or just because he is a liability with ball in hand.

 

[heypenny]

The final trades for points were painful but necessary. Although we lost a bit of value, I'd much rather get a quality/premium player like Serong than have an extra second-rounder in my pocket.

We were very lucky to have Young and Serong fall to our picks. Young was touted as a top 2 or 3 pick but slid due to the needs of other clubs. Serong's carnival was top notch. If WA didn't kick the last-minute goal to put them in front and win last year's carnival - it's possible that Serong would have won the Larke medal over Robertson. Who knows how that may have affected his value.

It also seems that Carlton was hoping for Serong to slide to them - and when it didn't, they bought more time to trade down the order. They clearly weren't sold on Flanders.

 

[FreoRicci]

Valente is an interesting one. He’s on the cusp I would imagine. Wouldn’t invest all the time and injury rehab with Fyfe recommendation to just throw him away .

 

[mightymouse75]

The final trades for points were painful but necessary. Although we lost a bit of value, I'd much rather get a quality/premium player like Serong than have an extra second-rounder in my pocket.

We were very lucky to have Young and Serong fall to our picks. Young was touted as a top 2 or 3 pick but slid due to the needs of other clubs. Serong's carnival was top notch. If WA didn't kick the last-minute goal to put them in front and win last year's carnival - it's possible that Serong would have won the Larke medal over Robertson. Who knows how that may have affected his value.

It also seems that Carlton was hoping for Serong to slide to them - and when it didn't, they bought more time to trade down the order. They clearly weren't sold on Flanders.

I could see the board melting if we had taken serong by himself.
Liam & young took the spotlight off him.
What was the knock ? Too small.

Been an amazing year for him.
Really hope he gets his rising star.

 

[UYD 4 Life]

Pick 24 2019 (Harry Schoenberg)
Pick 26 2020
7>10

The points we got from Port Adelaide amounted to the value of Pick 38. We traded pick 26 which will likely end up dropping to a pick in the mid 30’s after FA compo and academy/FS picks. So that trade was ok. If Ports picks were slightly higher it would have been better but that is what they had.

The Adelaide trade to secure pick 49 effectively was in Adelaide’s favour but not terrible.

It was this trade that we paid a high price:
10, 28, 2020 Carlton 4th > Pick 8

Ended up:
12 (Kysaiah Pickett) + 32 (Trent Rivers) and change for Caleb Serong

The real value was getting a pick in front of Carlton.

Melbourne would have placed a bid on Henry before Carlton ever had the chance

 

[ImperialPurple]

Except that mid-first round compensation picks are not a thing*...

*except when GC and GWS came into the competition and the exact pick you’re talking about. Has not existed at any other time.

Except when GC got gifted one last year, to be used this year. >.<

But yes, you're right.

 

[freo1997]

Blakely has 2 more years. We can't afford to pay him out and he's not retiring.

The issue is who the hell will want him? His last game for us he had like 6 disposals playing in the middle. Surely we accept a pick 80 odd, just to get him off the books.

 

[freodog]

Adelaide should snap up Valente and he should grab it with both hands. Should have got a game. They will probably get him through the PSD for nothing now.

I think it’ll be one we regret.