Play Nice 2020 Non AFL Admin, Crowds, Ratings, Participation etc thread

[Les Malone]

The NRL ratings on CH 9 Friday were nothing special considering the hype of it being the ONLY live sport on.
The early game got 311,000 across the 5 capitals and the later match had 493,000 to be equal 10th with the ABCs Gardening Australia.

i would be surprised if the AFL's are really any better, i really think people have lost the appetite, for what will be a cobbled together season, happy to be proven wrong

 

[Pippen94]

Not really. These are fairly average friday night numbers in these parts. Might be good for you though - Friday night ratings havent been exactly stellar for the NRL for years now.

300k on fox - 270k FTA Sydney. These are above average

 

[NoobPie]

300k on fox - 270k FTA Sydney. These are above average

Above average for the nrl. That wasn't his point. They are average Friday night ratings for the AFL

 

[Kwality]

I read somewhere where Telstra had lost $x00 million in the deal so their participation is questionable.

"In the past year or so News Corp has lent Foxtel $700 million, with Telstra giving $200 million"

"As Foxtel's future becomes ever more precarious, News has written down the value of its investment by $1.4 billion.
Telstra, which owns the other 35 per cent, has taken a $300 million hit."

Coronavirus losses may force Newscorp to rethink Foxtel business model

After a 31 per cent drop in its latest earnings, News Corporation has some big decisions to make about its Australian pay TV operator, writes Andrew Robertson.

www.abc.net.au

Your comments are spot on, thats why the Foxtel NRL deal thru to 2027 is interesting.
My initial thinking when both News & Telstra wrote down their investments, clearing the decks, was a sign the News/Telstra partnership was unbundling.
As we go on its apparent Foxtel is not yet dead:

Binge and Kayo are Foxtel's last ditch effort to win a new generation after a difficult and troubled history with streaming

With the launch of Binge, in conjunction with sports platform Kayo, Foxtel finally has a strong streaming offering that can compete with the likes of Netflix and Stan. Foxtel has spent much of the decade trying to fend off streaming challengers while not undermining its core subscription...

www.businessinsider.com.au

I understand Rupert & NewsCorp CEO Robert Thomson are in town, both have family here, but I'd say they will make time for Gil.

 

[Pippen94]

Above average for the nrl. That wasn't his point. They are average Friday night ratings for the AFL

What does afl do in Sydney or fox for that matter?

 

[The_Wookie]

What does afl do in Sydney or fox for that matter?

We're talking national broadcast figures. You cant just rattle off a national fox figure and a sydney fta figure and expect me to take you seriously.

 

[RedV3x]

As we go on its apparent Foxtel is not yet dead:

In it's current form it is.

 

[Kwality]

In it's current form it is.

Just signed a contract to 2027? The AFL are hoping to get a deal this week. There are others at the door.

 

[RedV3x]

Just signed a contract to 2027?

Yes, a contract has been signed and that is only as good as the business supplying the money and that doesn't look too healthy.

 

[Kwality]

Yes, a contract has been signed and that is only as good as the business supplying the money and that doesn't look too healthy.

& its not dead.

 

[legend166]

Excluding Telstra from that deal makes it very obvious the back half of it is going to be focused much more on Kayo.

 

[Kwality]

Excluding Telstra from that deal makes it very obvious the back half of it is going to be focused much more on Kayo.

That Telstra wrote down its investment rather than withdrawing suggests they see life in next iteration.

Binge Review: Foxtel's New Streaming Service Is A Mixed Bag

Foxtel has unleashed its new streaming service on the world and there are definitely some pros and cons. Find out our thoughts in our Binge review.

www.gizmodo.com.au

 

[RedV3x]

That Telstra wrote down its investment rather than withdrawing suggests they see life in next iteration.

What part of "last ditch effort" don't you understand?

 

[NoobPie]

Excluding Telstra from that deal makes it very obvious the back half of it is going to be focused much more on Kayo.

It actual masks the decline in value of the rights deal overall if the $200M per year includes the mobile telephony streaming rights as well (which it seems it does).

 

[Kwality]

What part of "last ditch effort" don't you understand?

They dont think its dead, thats you.

 

[Kwality]

It actual masks the decline in value of the rights deal overall if the $200M per year includes the mobile telephony streaming rights as well (which it seems it does).

Fair comment if correct. Who held it pre covid ? I'd be surprised if the digital rights (in toto) were not argued over by Foxtel.

In the AFL negotiations do Telstra hold these rights?

 

[NoobPie]

Fair comment if correct. Who held it pre covid ? I'd be surprised if the digital rights (in toto) were not argued over by Foxtel.

In the AFL negotiations do Telstra hold these rights?

I'm pretty sure that Telstra pay an amount over and above the foxtel contributions for the mobile telephony "AFL Live" "NRL Live" streaming rights in the current deal.

 

[RedV3x]

They dont think its dead, thats you

"last ditch effort" is a quote by "they" in the article YOU posted.
I agree with the article that it is indeed a "last ditch effort" .

 

[Kwality]

"last ditch effort" is a quote by "they" in the article YOU posted.
I agree with the article that it is indeed a "last ditch effort" .

You are slow on the up take.

 

[Kwality]

I'm pretty sure that Telstra pay an amount over and above the foxtel contributions for the mobile telephony "AFL Live" "NRL Live" streaming rights in the current deal.

Agree its a separate contract that Telstra holds.

 

[RedV3x]

You are slow on the up take.

No. I've always agreed with the sentiments in the article that it is indeed a "last ditch effort" by this company.

 

[Kwality]

No. I've always agreed with the sentiments in the article that it is indeed a "last ditch effort" by this company.

Roger that.

 

[Our Game]

Typical of an egotistical blowhard!

Why Annesley not V'landys deserves credit for ruck revolution

Andrew Webster
Chief Sports Writer
June 1, 2020 — 7.30pm

• The person responsible for dramatically turning rugby league from wrestle-mania to Wild West shootout was not Peter V’landys — it was Graham Annesley.

That storyline won't appeal to the V’landys cheer squad but it’s true. They're shaking their pom-poms in the wrong place.

 

[BringBackTorps]

1. The NSW govt. has, on 1.6, cancelled its decision to refurbish, to rectangular mode with 72k capacity, Homebush Stadium. The $810m saving will be spent on post-covid job development programs.

NRL expects NSW government to stand by stadium deal

ARLC chairman Peter V'landys has confirmed the NRL will use its agreement with the NSW government as leverage to get suburban grounds rebuilt.

www.smh.com.au

2. The NRL will threaten the NSW govt. it will remove the Grand Final from Sydney, if it doesn't renovate (within 10 years) 4 Sydney suburban stadia (15-20k capacity each, with each costing $150-200m). The NRL want Penrith, Manly, & 2 sthn. Sydney stadia (probably inc. Campbelltown).

NRL to threaten NSW Gov with moving final away from Sydney

Push to secure four new suburban grounds

wwos.nine.com.au

3. ABC 7.30 Report 1.6

RA is sacking over 40% of its admin. staff to avoid insolvency- it has also taken a $9m loan, & lost c.$9.5m in 2019.
N. Farr-Jones said RA has over 200 (140 are full time) staff, & over $20m pa is spent on it.

Community RU has been neglected, & RU is experiencing "a declining audience", & is facing "an existential crisis".
B. Papworth said "RA has spent $1.8b over the last 2 decades, where has it all gone"?

7.30: Monday 1/6/2020

Scammers take advantage of the Government's early release superannuation scheme to steal money from Australians' nest eggs. Robodebt victims want an apology from the Govt. Plus mass protests in the US over a death in custody.

iview.abc.net.au

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SMH R. Masters 30.5

RE V'landys, "He rejects as wrong the reported figure of $1.7b for a revised 8 year (Foxtel) 2020-2027 contract...".
"I think we did very well" V'landys said, pointing out Foxtel told the A League they face a 70% cut of the $57.6m they would have received for the next 3 years".
Is Foxtel only offering the A League $17.28 m pa?

V'landys is refusing to cite the details of the Rights' deal (but Nine has already given details of its deal to 2020-2022 to the ASX)-why the refusalThe NRL never cited commercial-in-confidence with previous deals.

Less money but no losers: Why a stripped-back NRL TV deal left everyone happy

Peter V’landys' definition of a “good deal” is one where broadcasters paid more than he expected, even before COVID-19 shut down sport for more than two months.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Kwality]

3. ABC 7.30 Report 1.6

RA is sacking over 40% of its admin. staff to avoid insolvency.- it has also taken a $9m loan. N. Farr-Jones said RA has over 200 staff, & over $20m pa is spent on it.

Community RU has been neglected, & RU is experiencing "a declining audience", & is facing "an existential crisis".
B. Papworth said "RA has spent $1.8b over the last 2 decades, where has it all gone"?

The biggest lesson for all sports administrators is the difficulty RA had getting the auditors to sign off on the financials.