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Webb isn’t training with us.
Potentially not full time - I imagine he'd have to get himself a job to get by now, so it might only be limited trackwork.
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Webb isn’t training with us.
Yeah...nah. Jones is in the best few intercept marks in the league. Marchbank is good, Jones is next level.
Saying he is slow is underestimating him. As I said, he plays very well on the opposition's most dangerous small forwards. Ahead of our smaller defenders.Im not under estimating Plowman I’m playing him INFRONT of Marchbank.
No argument with any of that. I do think the Jones 'brainfade' argument gets overplayed quite a bit though...he is a hell of a good defender, and will take some dislodging.Think that's to do with the difference in physicality.
Marchy reads the game a lot better than Jones, who has an inclination to overcommit to a really ambitious play and occasionally get burnt. But Jones has the athleticism and confidence in his own body to get to contests he has no right getting to, and to make an impact when he gets there.
I actually wouldn't mind Marchy spending a season building up his body to a point where he could potentially take over from Jones as the second key defender. Right now I think he's a bit tentative, and with good reason given his horrid run of luck.
Based on? Pretty sure Plowman would be in the first half dozen magnets thrown on the board. Coaches love durable, minimum fuss players who turn up and do their job each week.Marchy in front of Plowman anyday.
No argument with any of that. I do think the Jones 'brainfade' argument gets overplayed quite a bit though...he is a hell of a good defender, and will take some dislodging.
Would rather just keep playing Jones, who is a gun. Has 3-4 years left.For sure, it's not catastrophic, it's just one of those quirks of his game. His game sense is just that little bit off sometimes, and he can occasionally overestimate his ability to do something special. Marchy is "safer", without being as dynamic. I'd love to see Jones in the side for another 12-18 months, while Marchbank gets his body right and builds his frame, because I think long-term he and Weitering would make for a ridiculously strong pairing. Short term, Jones can be used to buy Marchy the time he needs.
Marchy in front of Plowman anyday.
Kills any flexibility with the defence and lose one of our best endurance runners.Marchy in front of Plowman anyday.
Kills any flexibility with the defence and lose one of our best endurance runners.
Plowman gets the s**t jobs and does it well. Take him out we are so much worse off. Kept both Charlie Cameron and Dusty goalless last season, rare territory for any defender.
Plowman will be one of the first picked each week.
Read my post. I didn’t say Plowman was slow I said the group with Marchbank (which was arguing with Stamos about Marchbank included in the back 4) I’m talking about Marchbank mainly being too slow. Plowman would be the fastest of the entire tall group. I ******* love Plowman. We need three smalls. 2 of which should be elite run and carry players and 1 should bend defensive stopper (taken up by plow). No need for 3 tall intercept players.Saying he is slow is underestimating him. As I said, he plays very well on the opposition's most dangerous small forwards. Ahead of our smaller defenders.
2020 Blues Pre-Season Player Preview Series
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Stocker put in another GQ cover-worthy effort with this early-preseason shot.
Player Name: Liam Stocker
Guernsey #: 13
Nickname/s: Stock, ‘Pick 19 in the The Stocker Trade’, Liam Stoker
2019 Senior Games: 5
Key Stats: Disposals: 68 (13.6) Rebound 50s: 12 (2.4) Contested possessions: 20 (4) Tackles: 9 (1.8) Pressure acts 64 (12.8) Metres gained: 962 (192.5)
Height: 184
Weight: 83
Injury concerns: Nil
Primary Role: Midfielder
Best 22 Status: Developing/Fringe
Strengths: Competitiveness, professionalism, dual-sided kicking
Weaknesses: Running ability
What they said: The second-year Blue was doing extras before training even began for preseason, his presence and commitment clearly having an impact, with teammate Mitch McGovern super impressed back in November: “Liam Stocker actually impressed me: he opened my eyes up,” he said.
“He had a little bit of niggle over the off-season, but he’s come back in pretty good nick and he looks a lot lighter and a lot more energetic on his feet.
“I’m looking forward to seeing what he can do this year.”
The 411: Stocker re-signed last month until the end of 2022, with both he and the club showing enormous faith in the direction of both the club and his role in the next era of success at Carlton. He broke into the senior side early in his first year – Round 7 – showing that he won’t take long to develop at VFL level. A foot injury partly derailed his progress, but five AFL games can be seen as an early success for the first ever player drafted as a result of a live trade. Stock has class, natural football ability and the right mindset to succeed at the top level – in whatever role he’s given.
Bigfooty best case: The now famous pick 19 is tracking nicely and you won’t find many Blues fans who don’t rate this kid. His varied skillset means that he may start his career as a role player – off the half back, tagging or on the fringes of the midfield. But with a full preseason and a mindset perhaps only rivalled by Cripps, Doc and Walsh in Navy Blue, Stocker has all the tools to make it at the top level. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to see him become a regular in our top side next season – pushing for a Rising Star podium finish by the business end of 2020.
Next up: Liam Jones
2020 Blues Pre-Season Player Preview Series
View attachment 788489
Stocker put in another GQ cover-worthy effort with this early-preseason shot.
Player Name: Liam Stocker
Guernsey #: 13
Nickname/s: Stock, ‘Pick 19 in the The Stocker Trade’, Liam Stoker
2019 Senior Games: 5
Key Stats: Disposals: 68 (13.6) Rebound 50s: 12 (2.4) Contested possessions: 20 (4) Tackles: 9 (1.8) Pressure acts 64 (12.8) Metres gained: 962 (192.5)
Height: 184
Weight: 83
Injury concerns: Nil
Primary Role: Midfielder
Best 22 Status: Developing/Fringe
Strengths: Competitiveness, professionalism, dual-sided kicking
Weaknesses: Running ability
What they said: The second-year Blue was doing extras before training even began for preseason, his presence and commitment clearly having an impact, with teammate Mitch McGovern super impressed back in November: “Liam Stocker actually impressed me: he opened my eyes up,” he said.
“He had a little bit of niggle over the off-season, but he’s come back in pretty good nick and he looks a lot lighter and a lot more energetic on his feet.
“I’m looking forward to seeing what he can do this year.”
The 411: Stocker re-signed last month until the end of 2022, with both he and the club showing enormous faith in the direction of both the club and his role in the next era of success at Carlton. He broke into the senior side early in his first year – Round 7 – showing that he won’t take long to develop at VFL level. A foot injury partly derailed his progress, but five AFL games can be seen as an early success for the first ever player drafted as a result of a live trade. Stock has class, natural football ability and the right mindset to succeed at the top level – in whatever role he’s given.
Bigfooty best case: The now famous pick 19 is tracking nicely and you won’t find many Blues fans who don’t rate this kid. His varied skillset means that he may start his career as a role player – off the half back, tagging or on the fringes of the midfield. But with a full preseason and a mindset perhaps only rivalled by Cripps, Doc and Walsh in Navy Blue, Stocker has all the tools to make it at the top level. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to see him become a regular in our top side next season – pushing for a Rising Star podium finish by the business end of 2020.
Next up: Liam Jones
#stealofthedraft2020 Blues Pre-Season Player Preview Series
View attachment 788489
Stocker put in another GQ cover-worthy effort with this early-preseason shot.
Player Name: Liam Stocker
Guernsey #: 13
Nickname/s: Stock, ‘Pick 19 in the The Stocker Trade’, Liam Stoker
2019 Senior Games: 5
Key Stats: Disposals: 68 (13.6) Rebound 50s: 12 (2.4) Contested possessions: 20 (4) Tackles: 9 (1.8) Pressure acts 64 (12.8) Metres gained: 962 (192.5)
Height: 184
Weight: 83
Injury concerns: Nil
Primary Role: Midfielder
Best 22 Status: Developing/Fringe
Strengths: Competitiveness, professionalism, dual-sided kicking
Weaknesses: Running ability
What they said: The second-year Blue was doing extras before training even began for preseason, his presence and commitment clearly having an impact, with teammate Mitch McGovern super impressed back in November: “Liam Stocker actually impressed me: he opened my eyes up,” he said.
“He had a little bit of niggle over the off-season, but he’s come back in pretty good nick and he looks a lot lighter and a lot more energetic on his feet.
“I’m looking forward to seeing what he can do this year.”
The 411: Stocker re-signed last month until the end of 2022, with both he and the club showing enormous faith in the direction of both the club and his role in the next era of success at Carlton. He broke into the senior side early in his first year – Round 7 – showing that he won’t take long to develop at VFL level. A foot injury partly derailed his progress, but five AFL games can be seen as an early success for the first ever player drafted as a result of a live trade. Stock has class, natural football ability and the right mindset to succeed at the top level – in whatever role he’s given.
Bigfooty best case: The now famous pick 19 is tracking nicely and you won’t find many Blues fans who don’t rate this kid. His varied skillset means that he may start his career as a role player – off the half back, tagging or on the fringes of the midfield. But with a full preseason and a mindset perhaps only rivalled by Cripps, Doc and Walsh in Navy Blue, Stocker has all the tools to make it at the top level. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to see him become a regular in our top side next season – pushing for a Rising Star podium finish by the business end of 2020.
Next up: Liam Jones
Ta mate. It actually has it's own thread but isn't garnering discussion - more likely to get some views and chatter here. Always a lot of threads this time of year. I'm not after glory.You also forgot ... kid has mongrel!
Matty next year … this deserves its own stand alone thread mate I reckon. Awesome s**t mate!
Keep up ffs.
Preview - 2020 Blues Pre-Season Player Preview Series
Fortuitous timing on the Jack article. Did they take my idea or did I take theirs? Am I a member of the Blues' media team? Either way, here we go. 2020 Blues Pre-Season Player Preview Series Player Name: J. Silvagni Guernsey #: 1 Nickname/s: SOS, SOJ, JSOS 2019 Senior Games: 17 2019 Key...www.bigfooty.com
Matty411 don’t forget to update the above thread
Don't let some *er harvest your likesKeep up ffs.
Preview - 2020 Blues Pre-Season Player Preview Series
Fortuitous timing on the Jack article. Did they take my idea or did I take theirs? Am I a member of the Blues' media team? Either way, here we go. 2020 Blues Pre-Season Player Preview Series Player Name: J. Silvagni Guernsey #: 1 Nickname/s: SOS, SOJ, JSOS 2019 Senior Games: 17 2019 Key...www.bigfooty.com
Matty411 don’t forget to update the above thread
Don't let some f***er harvest your likes
No.....Both are goodFit March is a big upgrade on Plow