List Mgmt. 2020 Trade/FA TARGETS

[Strapping Young Lad]

Trade hypotheticals and discussion of how you think or want a trade to happen go here - 2020 FA, Draft and Trade HYPOTHETICAL thread.

If you want to talk about a current Hawthorn player and if they’re staying on the list, it goes here - Should I stay or should I go now? End of season list management discussion (now continued for 2020)

Trade/FA targets thread is for discussion of News about players we are to target via trade of FA. It’s not for “Kane Cornes

Kane Cornes

Age

41

Ht

183cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

5.2

5star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

3star

says we should get this player”.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

agree with everyone on that list except Jayden Short, cannot stand him and don’t understand the praise he gets tbh. Just my opinion though

He's a good HBF/BP, can't deny that. Long penetrating kick, good at running with the ball and tenacious.

 

[Slysh]

Throw everything under the sun for Bailey Smith, one of the most special young talents in the game.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

why then didn't he leave last year when North were throwing millions at him? doesn't make sense

Because maybe they weren't his preferred choice. Perhaps that will become apparent this year who he is looking at.

 

[JaegarTime]

He's a good HBF/BP, can't deny that. Long penetrating kick, good at running with the ball and tenacious.

always seems a bit of a headless chook just roosting it up the ground to me, tbh I don’t watch much of Richmond so I could be missing something

 

[TylerDurden]

Throw everything under the sun for Bailey Smith, one of the most special young talents in the game.

For sure. But they'd never trade him.

 

[I got the outside word]

For sure. But they'd never trade him.

They need draft points that we have for matching bids, especially for Ugle-Hagan and Bailey Smith hasn’t signed yet, possibly a target?

 

[Slysh]

For sure. But they'd never trade him.

Well they won’t offer him up, he requests one though and they have no choice. (Unless you are the Suns)

 

[Dewnior]

I think we should just focus on the trade aspect, seen enough evidence that Free Agency isn't really our thing.

Really, but I keep reading that we've benefited more than any other club from Free Agency.

 

[PenAndPaper]

agree with everyone on that list except Jayden Short, cannot stand him and don’t understand the praise he gets tbh. Just my opinion though

Its legit because of his kicking, the rest of his game isn't great tbh.

 

[MrPremiership]

Because maybe they weren't his preferred choice. Perhaps that will become apparent this year who he is looking at.

If he wanted money then it wouldn't matter

 

[Slick]

I think we should just focus on the trade aspect, seen enough evidence that Free Agency isn't really our thing.

If our modus operandi was to quit trying when things don't work out the first few times, we would never have had the on field success we've had. We'll keep trying and eventually we will make waves in free agency.

 

[MrPremiership]

its as if posters just forget the free agents we do sign.....

a majority of players don't exercise free agency, its just a salary negotiation technique. When some players have actively chose to leave, and we've chased, we haven't missed out too often

 

[Brant]

its as if posters just forget the free agents we do sign.....

a majority of players don't exercise free agency, its just a salary negotiation technique. When some players have actively chose to leave, and we've chased, we haven't missed out too often

We've missed a bit often.

Sloane, Cogs & Lynch in recent times. Was rumours we were into Dangerfield at the time & I'm pretty sure we had a run at Gaff. There were some weird rumours surrounding Fyfe a couple of years back but I'm not sure about that one.

The majority of FA movements that we're involved with are when guys like Buddy, Suckers, Doc leave for other clubs. Was Clinton Young also a FA? Tom Murphy?

Of course we'll not stop swinging, but as you suggest - a majority of players don't exercise the FA function & so it's probs not a reliable means for acquiring targets if the sole or even primary method used.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I think we should just focus on the trade aspect, seen enough evidence that Free Agency isn't really our thing.

We will always chase free agents, for two reasons...

1: you’ve got to be in it to win it.
2: it creates a market that opposition teams need to counter

 

[Judd2Sewell]

We will always chase free agents, for two reasons...

1: you’ve got to be in it to win it.
2: it creates a market that opposition teams need to counter

You've got to have a crack if there is money available to make an offer.

 

[Brant]

You've got to have a crack if there is money available to make an offer.

Absolutely crazy not to, even if just for the reasons Abasi lists

 

[eldorado]

Maybe we just lay off the GWS ones...

 

[Hawk Dork]

Maybe we just lay off the GWS ones...

you have to make Gill pay

 

[MrPremiership]

We've missed a bit often.

Sloane, Cogs & Lynch in recent times. Was rumours we were into Dangerfield at the time & I'm pretty sure we had a run at Gaff. There were some weird rumours surrounding Fyfe a couple of years back but I'm not sure about that one.

The majority of FA movements that we're involved with are when guys like Buddy, Suckers, Doc leave for other clubs. Was Clinton Young also a FA? Tom Murphy?

Of course we'll not stop swinging, but as you suggest - a majority of players don't exercise the FA function & so it's probs not a reliable means for acquiring targets if the sole or even primary method used.

We don't miss if the FA stays with their club

 

[Brishawk]

We've missed a bit often.

Sloane, Cogs & Lynch in recent times. Was rumours we were into Dangerfield at the time & I'm pretty sure we had a run at Gaff. There were some weird rumours surrounding Fyfe a couple of years back but I'm not sure about that one.

The majority of FA movements that we're involved with are when guys like Buddy, Suckers, Doc leave for other clubs. Was Clinton Young also a FA? Tom Murphy?

Of course we'll not stop swinging, but as you suggest - a majority of players don't exercise the FA function & so it's probs not a reliable means for acquiring targets if the sole or even primary method used.

The only ones who left were danger and lynch. Don’t think we were ever seriously into danger. Lynch we missed on the rest we got outbid by the home team. We know our price.

 

[Brant]

We don't miss if the FA stays with their club

Couldn't really call it a hit though, huh?

 

[MrPremiership]

Couldn't really call it a hit though, huh?

? Of course no.

But this myth that we are bad at FA is wrong and dumb

 

[Brant]

? Of course no.

But this myth that we are bad at FA is wrong and dumb

Results-wise, we're better than most & I think our offering is as good as any club (I think it's better, but of course I'm biased our way).

I also think the perception that we're bad is skewed. We seem to get to the final decision a bit, yet the player stays or goes elsewhere; but, that has to be seen in the correct light: i.e. We got to the final decision stage. 12-15 other clubs aren't even getting that far, which I reckon shows that we are pretty good at this FA stuff.

IMO, no club is (yet) 'good' at converting FAs into acquisitions.

But I do consider a player staying at their club as a 'miss', just as much as if they go to another club. Either way, they're not with us. Probs semantics though, worrying about the terminology of 'miss'.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

The only ones who left were danger and lynch. Don’t think we were ever seriously into danger. Lynch we missed on the rest we got outbid by the home team. We know our price.

Not seriously into ? Or knew that he was never going to choose us over Geelong ?

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Results-wise, we're better than most & I think our offering is as good as any club (I think it's better, but of course I'm biased our way).

I also think the perception that we're bad is skewed. We seem to get to the final decision a bit, yet the player stays or goes elsewhere; but, that has to be seen in the correct light: i.e. We got to the final decision stage. 12-15 other clubs aren't even getting that far, which I reckon shows that we are pretty good at this FA stuff.

IMO, no club is (yet) 'good' at converting FAs into acquisitions.

But I do consider a player staying at their club as a 'miss', just as much as if they go to another club. Either way, they're not with us. Probs semantics though, worrying about the terminology of 'miss'.

So do I, especially when we have to read 3000 pages on this board talking about them before they eventually stay.