List Mgmt. 2020 Trade and List Management Thread II

[Harris 10]

Bombers could end up with 6-7 and 8 or 9 or something couldn't they

I highly doubt it.
Carlton can’t possibly give up 7 for Saad.
No club is going to pay Daniher enough for tier 1 compensation.

 

[Le Grille]

I highly doubt it.
Carlton can’t possibly give up 7 for Saad.
No club is going to pay Daniher enough for tier 1 compensation.

I hope the lions go down the brown path then completely wreck Essendons fantasy


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[New_Roo]

Except it's not.

They attract free agents and trades because of the "big club" narrative, and yet they get Jack Martin instead of Dustin Martin, Mitch McGovern instead of Jeremy McGovern, Matthew Kennedy instead of Josh Kennedy, and Hugh Goddard instead of Brendan Goddard. Does Liam Jones count as a good get?

The only player of any consequence who they traded out for picks was Bryce Gibbs, and he'd been trying to get home for two years. And they've loaded up on young talent not by design, but by making terrible decisions and just being sh*t.

If that's what we have to look forward to, then God/Allah/Vishnu/Zeus help us.

Also remember Shiel chose * over them!


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[Kangaroo Cat]

In Slobbo's defense, he's been surprisingly scathing of the * in recent times. It's been good to see him lose his sh*t over their current plight.

He acts like they've personally wronged him, much like the rest of the * supporters

 

[krakouers]

Isn’t it funny,
North smart operator like Brady in charge, cutting players and coaching staff = no plan/worried for them..
* players wanting to leave because the club is delusional/no plan = ?

Quick, tweet him and ask him!

 

[Snake_Baker]

They have to trade for him. It will cost them pick 7, and they will cough it up, and it will be taken.

Dodo will beat his chest and carry on to impress the morons yet again, but he will do that deal..

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Pay em back for their role in the Veale deal


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Fun fact, Lochie Veale now works in Aprrenticeships and Training in Colac.

 

[Le Grille]

They have to trade for him. It will cost them pick 7, and they will cough it up, and it will be taken.

Dodo will beat his chest and carry on to impress the morons yet again, but he will do that deal..

If the blues do it they are ****ing ******ed


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[SpiderBurton22]

Rumours of Carlton doing some sort of deal with Geelong downgrading pick 7 for one of their 1st rounders.

 

[Snake_Baker]

If the blues do it they are ******* ******ed


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[Reverend Shinboner]

Rumours of Carlton doing some sort of deal with Geelong downgrading pick 7 for one of their 1st rounders.

With Williams & Saad joining Carlton, what about taking Dow off their hands for a 3rd/4th rounder to ease their cap pressure?

 

[New_Roo]

100%. So the money he’ll be on at Carlton has been impacted by Covid.

If a trade breaks down we have to pay what Carlton ended up offering correct? I think it was in the 650s.

Can Carlton do what they did with Martin and offer what 1.2 so that anyone before them has to offer that to take him...


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[Deleted member 98541]

Why don't we get in on the pick swap

7 for 9 and ?

7 gets below GWS compo if it comes in band 1.

 

[New_Roo]

* fans saying Saad only cares about money. Isn't Carlton's offer slightly less than what Essendon offered?

No ess offered 600k, Carlton 650k so over five years 250k diff


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[krakouers]

With Williams & Saad joining Carlton, what about taking Dow off their hands for a 3rd/4th rounder to ease their cap pressure?

Why not push up their cap pressure? Have they got any players who need resigning?

 

[Snake_Baker]

With Williams & Saad joining Carlton, what about taking Dow off their hands for a 3rd/4th rounder to ease their cap pressure?

Dow is contracted mate.

 

[deano28]

I highly doubt it.
Carlton can’t possibly give up 7 for Saad.
No club is going to pay Daniher enough for tier 1 compensation.

Have heard that * have offered Daniher the most coin but he still wants out . That place is one big shit show .

 

[deano28]

Dow is contracted mate.

And ?

 

[Snake_Baker]

And ?

It gives us **** all leverage.

 

[darko]

Rumours of Carlton doing some sort of deal with Geelong downgrading pick 7 for one of their 1st rounders.

Makes sense. Geelong's picks 11 and 13 or 11 and 16 for pick 7. Pick 11 goes to Essendon.

 

[Reverend Shinboner]

It gives us fu** all leverage.

I can't see clubs lining up for him. I can see Dow choosing North. And I can see Carlton accepting a deal if he wants out. He's didn't get gametime in 2020, with Williams and Saad he's less likely to get gametime in 2021. Surely it's possible for a late 2nd/early 3rd rounder...

 

[deano28]

I can't see clubs lining up for him. I can see Dow choosing North. And I can see Carlton accepting a deal if he wants out. He's didn't get gametime in 2020, with Williams and Saad he's less likely to get gametime in 2021. Surely it's possible for a late 2nd/early 3rd rounder...

Absolutely it is ... assuming we would want him .

 

[New_Roo]

Answered above.
So he’ll put a price on his head and has to lodge this with Carlton once the trade period and national draft is completed. The AFL requests all 18 clubs notify them of their salary cap intentions for the upcoming season. This is an annual requirement. Once he nominates for the PSD the league will share this information with all 18 clubs and we can then decide whether we pick him or not.

Yes cool apologies wrote before I saw... this year they won't be able to go too high though with Williams also coming in


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[Tas]

......and..................IT'S OVER TO YOU M. LLOYD!

What someone should have put to Lloyd is which of the cut players would say Essendon or any other club pick up and play in their best 22?

<crickets>

So if they aren't good enough for anyone else's list, why is it going to be such a tragedy if they are not on our list?

If we do not plan to play them in 2021 and beyond then what is the point of them being on our list?

And that is exactly the point, we do not want recycled hacks coming to the club any longer.

What number did they say, 14? Two of them are rookies so lets call it 12 as those spots wont exist. We have 40 senior player, it is probably going to drop to 38 so we are down to 10. Zurhaar must be elevated, that is 9. Hayden might get elevated, that is 8. That just leaves McGuinness who is a Cat B rookie, all our Cat A rookies will be gone so whatever number the AFL allows can be filled, it wont impact the senior player numbers though. We are picking up Corr as a free agent, so that is 7. It seems Polec isn't going so that could be 6, if he goes or stays it wont really matter as he will be in the same group as Brown and Higgins in that if they go we will get something of value for them.

So we now have 6 senior spots to fill, we have picks 2, 9 & 25 plus something of value for Higgins and Brown should they leave. Brown should be equivalent to a first round pick, Higgins a second... or thereabouts.

So all bar one of the vacancies is filled by something of value. I have a sneaking suspicion that we might try and get Wright to give the forward line a bit more maturity and a seasoned body. Fine, call him recycled, I don't think GC will ask a lot for him, might be as cheap as a future 3rd pick.

So we move on 14 or whatever players and all the spots are filled with something of value and only 1 recycled guy from that group. How is that a disaster? It doesn't matter which senior player they name as might be going, they aren't talking about an Atley with zero value, any player that they talk about is someone of value that will be replaced with something of value. The critical element is how much maturity exists in the best 22 and out best team is still about 2 years older on average than GC. We have retained the best of our mature players whilst also providing more opportunity for our younger high quality players to evolve, like GC had this year, like Saints have had recently, etc.

We are a long way off being a concern imo.

 

[Joshen]

Rumours of Carlton doing some sort of deal with Geelong downgrading pick 7 for one of their 1st rounders.

Geelong apparently keen on Tanner Bruhn so sounds feasible.