2020 Trade & List Management discussion

[SaltPeter]

 

[Ozzie]

Yeah I wasn't really counting those, but you are right!

IN both years we were due high picks. Reason why I hate VFL house and both teams. Especially the GCS.

 

[1970crow]

Correct. We did a lot of Shaw, even putting him onto the rookie list so he would get the benefits of the new CBA the AFLPA were negotiating.

And then, he came back and went the legal route. Nice

It's not always like that. Sometimes the a goin needs to be taken to trigger the insurance. He can't negotiate with the club and then get the insurance to pay. He must demand from the club, the club must deny liability, then he sues, insurers defend/negotiate. Assuming our policy wasn't voided the second we kept him on the list solely in order to use the insurance. Pretty sure we have a duty to mitigate their risk. Not act specifically the opposite. Do you know the details on this?

 

[Dudersaurus]

It's not always like that. Sometimes the a goin needs to be taken to trigger the insurance. He can't negotiate with the club and then get the insurance to pay. He must demand from the club, the club must deny liability, then he sues, insurers defend/negotiate. Assuming our policy wasn't voided the second we kept him on the list solely in order to use the insurance. Pretty sure we have a duty to mitigate their risk. Not act specifically the opposite. Do you know the details on this?

It's like CTP car insurance. If you're injured as a passenger in a car driven by your grandmother, you have to claim (via the nominal insurer) against your beloved grandma, and ambulance chasers often 'facilitate' that.

 

[SaltPeter]

Cornes of the wrinkly variety seems to think Adelaide should be talking to Kane Farrell about move from Port. OOC next year

Kane Farrell

6

Kane Farrell

Age

26

Ht

182cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.4

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.1

4star

MG

259.5

4star

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.5

3star

MG

259.5

4star

D

9.6

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

2.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

 

[Thetrader15]

Cornes of the wrinkly variety seems to think Adelaide should be talking to Kane Farrell about move from Port. OOC next year

Kane Farrell

6

Kane Farrell

Age

26

Ht

182cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.4

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.1

4star

MG

259.5

4star

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.5

3star

MG

259.5

4star

D

9.6

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

2.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

I don't trust much of what Graham says these days after his continued Essendon/Dank "storm in a tea cup" comments

 

[adelcrows]

Can we please stop talk of a Priority Pick, it does not happen any more, Gold Coast was a one off package to remedy the failings of the AFL in setting them up.

Brad Crouch who we constantly bag on here is not getting Band 1, other clubs are not stupid, did you know they actually watch our games and see what we see? No club is giving him sufficient $ and years to fall into Band 1.

People have very inflated ideas on what players like Atkins and Laird are worth. You need to scrutinise trades and compo over the last say three years to see we aren't getting much for them.

Can we also stop talking about sweetheart deals with WB to not bid on Ugle-Hagan, the AFL watch all these things very closely, any sniff of dodgy dealings and you end up with sanctions - yet again!

Ok everyone, stop talking any potential outcomes, apparently we are all way off the mark as per this poster.. Bigfooty should now close down.

 

[jackster83]

Cornes of the wrinkly variety seems to think Adelaide should be talking to Kane Farrell about move from Port. OOC next year

Kane Farrell

6

Kane Farrell

Age

26

Ht

182cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.4

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.1

4star

MG

259.5

4star

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.5

3star

MG

259.5

4star

D

9.6

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

2.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

Farrell has a nice leg on him but I'd rather see what Sholl has to offer.

 

[Betts are off]

Ok everyone, stop talking any potential outcomes, apparently we are all way off the mark as per this poster.. Bigfooty should now close down.

I’ll alert the interwebs people

 

[SaltPeter]

Farrell has a nice leg on him but I'd rather see what Sholl has to offer.

I think his thought process was that he may already be behind other players on Ports list, and can play a mid/forward role.

 

[hey shorty]

Farrell has a nice leg on him but I'd rather see what Sholl has to offer.

I wonder what is holding him out of the Port side, seems to play very well each time he's selected.

Could be a worse option but I don't see Port trading him to us.

 

[Mego Red]

I wonder what is holding him out of the Port side, seems to play very well each time he's selected.

Could be a worse option but I don't see Port trading him to us.

I think we just hold back a spot or two for DFAs once the list have been reduced, and we see who's out there. There's a good chance it could be Farrell.

 

[Mutineer]

Farrell has a nice leg on him but I'd rather see what Sholl has to offer.

Willem Drew

 

[Thetrader15]

We all expect to be down the bottom 2 for the next couple of years, so I'd be holding any pre-FAs until they become FAs. I think the compo we get for them will be better than what clubs offer, purely based on our ladder position, plus that we can match any deals at the time if needed.

Cap space and a low ladder position is a good place to be when it comes to RFAs

 

[hey shorty]

Willem Drew

Seems injured a bit, but he's a surplus inside mid who would come cheap.

 

[Mutineer]

Seems injured a bit, but he's a surplus inside mid who would come cheap.

Don't think he come that cheap, shown plenty when he's on the park and with the Wines talk and possibly SPP open to offers I anticipate they'll want to hang onto Drew. Bigger mids with his ability to get forward are at a premium.

 

[MRB37]

Might be kicking the tires on Xavier O'Neill and Brayden Ainsworth from the Eagles. 2nd round picks from the Eagles in '17 and '18 who have yet to get games.

 

[Peter Doherty]

We all expect to be down the bottom 2 for the next couple of years, so I'd be holding any pre-FAs until they become FAs. I think the compo we get for them will be better than what clubs offer, purely based on our ladder position, plus that we can match any deals at the time if needed.

Cap space and a low ladder position is a good place to be when it comes to RFAs

Very good point. Next year is supposed to be a good draft year also.

 

[Mutineer]

Might be kicking the tires on Xavier O'Neill and Brayden Ainsworth from the Eagles. 2nd round picks from the Eagles in '17 and '18 who have yet to get games.

Wouldn't be against having a look at Xavier O'Neill specifically, played some decent footy for the Oakleigh Chargers in his draft year despite somewhat surprisingly missing out on the Vic Metro squad, nice blend of pace and skills but more an outside midfielder that offers run and carry than a contested ball winner.

 

[Matman23]

If we land Tilthorp in with our early pick we then need to focus on mids IMO. Whether that’s through trade or the draft. I don’t really see who our future star mids are.

 

[Golumless]

If we land Tilthorp in with our early pick we then need to focus on mids IMO. Whether that’s through trade or the draft. I don’t really see who our future star mids are.

We do need to focus heavily on midfield. Right now, we do not have any experienced piece who is reliable outside of Brad, and we'll likely lose Brad.

In terms of star mids, Jones has enough to his game to get there (and he's having about one burst a game where he's genuinely influencing it), though will need a bit of luck. Milera might get there if he transitions full time and takes (again, has enough to his game, though there are more question marks than Jones), Hamill is a good shot of getting there (seeing he is damn exciting), though is probably two seasons away from us being able to explore it.

 

[skam85]

Might be kicking the tires on Xavier O'Neill and Brayden Ainsworth from the Eagles. 2nd round picks from the Eagles in '17 and '18 who have yet to get games.

Brayden played against us on the weekend

 

[MRB37]

Brayden played against us on the weekend

DraftGuru is slow to update then.

 

[maxlilly]

I don't want to be trading any players in at the moment, just out.
And load up for the next couple of drafts.
See were we are at a few years down the track before we look to fill the gaps in our list

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Mentioned with crouch compo tier 1 below is what I’d do draft wise among trading in Valente

1- Thilthorpe
2- Hollands
9- Grainger-Barrass
20- trade for Hately
26- Baldwin
42- Edwards
51- Newchurch
65- Borlase

Playing as much youth next year my 22 with some decent senior depth still contracted as break glass in case needed if they’ve not been paid in Lynch, Tex and Gibbs

I’m really keen getting Dood into the midfield

FB: Brown — Talia — Hamill
HB: Smith — McCasey — Edwards
C: Milera — Jones — Sloane
HF: Hollands — Thilthorpe — McHenry
FF- McAdam — Fogarty — Stengle
R: O’Brien — Hately — Doedee
INT: M.Crouch — Frampton— Valente —Laird