2020 Trade & List Management discussion
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Gallucci I can absolutely understand
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If you might be able to understand, can you share that with the rest of us.
I'd have no idea why he would think that.
You’d think the doggies would be hoping like hell we get pick 2.
That would be a lot less points they need to find to match, if we don’t bid (hoping they trade 13)
That would be a lot less points they need to find to match, if we don’t bid (hoping they trade 13)
Refer to the Godden interview earlier this year.
It's about attitude - Gallucci is infamous for picking and choosing when he gives 100%, and barely giving 20% the rest of the time. Poholke may be the textbook definition of vanilla, but at least he gives 100% all the time.
Because the AFL have link the list sizes to a Pay cut, and AFLPA are fighting the Pay Cut,
Because he's not a very good footballer, and we want to improve our list rather than stagnate by filling it up with cloggers.
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And people reckon Brad is a ball burner.....Brad is bordering on Sam Mitchell'd foot skills if we're comparing his kicking with Treloar.
I fail to see a problem with this statement. Gooch, Dots & Crocker have no chance of making it at the AFL level.
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perhaps you are right re Gallucci’s attitude to this point in time. I personally think he is by far the more talented footballer of Crocker and Poholke, and prior to the Achilles had decent pace. I also reckon he was a player who often did good things with the possessions he got, even though he wasn’t a ball magnet.
I think he has definitely been one to suffer at selection and has had limited opportunities at a time when we were backing experience over youth in the Campo and Pyke era.
I think the club should keep him on the list and see whether a) he pulls up after the injury with decent pace still AND b) whether Nicks’ style is more suited to getting the most out of Gooch. There’s been some buy in from other youth who have also been biding their time.
And Vader, you have bagged players in the past who have gone on to do well or at very least get the most out of their careers elsewhere. I don’t think we’ve done our due diligence with Gooch yet!
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There's no question at all that Gooch is the most talented of that particular trio - he definitely is.
Godden's comments weren't aimed at what Gooch produced in his limited AFL opportunities - it was a comment on how he performs all of the time, at training and in the SANFL. Make no mistake, Godden's statement was coming from the whole coaching group - including Nicks.
We've already seen Nicks sideline players such as Seedsman, Knight & Atkins. There is nothing to suggest that he'd be supportive of a player like Gooch, who picks & chooses when to work hard.
In an ideal world, players are both talented and hard working - and if Gooch or Dots had both of these qualities then we wouldn't be having this discussion. Gooch is talented, but lazy. Poholke has limited talent, but reliably gives 100%. Players like Gooch are toxic, whereas players like Dots are "mostly harmless" (with apologies to Douglas Adams RIP).
Correct, the other 3 are basically just depth now if we have injuries. If the list sizes are cut then we can't afford to keep them if they won't ever be best 22.
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I’m still not convinced that Gooch couldn’t learn in the right environment to be committed to an AFL acceptable standard. May be just feeling quite despondent - partly form - partly lack of opportunity.
I would give him another year to see if this changes.
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Isn't he contracted till 2025? What a balls up by the pies.
I'm happy for him to have another year... just not on Adelaide's playing lists.
Yep... 5 years left @ $700K+, heavily back loaded.
At least that's what's been reported.
He's so average.
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I’m still not convinced that Gooch couldn’t learn in the right environment to be committed to an AFL acceptable standard. May be just feeling quite despondent - partly form - partly lack of opportunity.
I would give him another year to see if this changes.
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I'm Gooch, coin toss Crocker/poholke, Mackay.
We get the point - but did you really need to post the same thing 4 times?
key lack opportunity due to pyke still thing worth first rounder if given a year worth of games
I’m in the keep him
His 2021 salary is $900k and Collingwood are only willing to pay around $200k for that one year.
Good luck finding someone who is willing to take that contract off their hands. I suspect they'll end up paying $500K for the duration of the contract, if he is going to end up anywhere else.
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GC have no incentive to part with pick 5. If they know Collingwood are wanting him out and will pay probably at least a mill over the rest of his contract to get him gone, they don't need to be paying more than second round tops.
Unless he's a truly toxic human I can't fathom Collingwood's strategy.
They won't clearly much, if any, cap space, and won't get a good pick when they're forcing him to leave.
The ill will generated for no net return is befuddling.
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