2020 Trade & List Management discussion

[1970crow]

Surely not re-signing Brad has freed up considerable cash, $600K that hasn't gone anywhere else?

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Surely Hately is on $400k of that. I'd expect Keays' extension is on a little note than what he arrived on. I doubt between those 2 there's much left of Brad's $600k.

 

[Mego Red]

Surely Hately is on $400k of that. I'd expect Keays' extension is on a little note than what he arrived on. I doubt between those 2 there's much left of Brad's $600k.

Wouldn't the bigger issue be that the salary cap has been cut by $1.3m or so?

 

[1970crow]

Wouldn't the bigger issue be that the salary cap has been cut by $1.3m or so?

No, that's against existing contracts. Would only be an issue if we signed or extended someone that included a clause that their payments were not impacted. To be material to the discussion it would need to be a huge contact.

 

[LoBu]

Surely Hately is on $400k of that. I'd expect Keays' extension is on a little note than what he arrived on. I doubt between those 2 there's much left of Brad's $600k.

Yes, agree on Hately, but the fact we were considering a match suggests some room, it wasn't a matter of us not being able to afford Brad was it?

Maybe we've given the change to McKay?

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[hey shorty]

Yes, agree on Hately, but the fact we were considering a match suggests some room, it wasn't a matter of us not being able to afford Brad was it?

Maybe we've given the change to McKay?

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We could've afforded it, we even offered him more early on.

 

[Mutineer]

Bean pole ruckman, classic rookie project type I think whilst he puts on the required 20kgs to be a competitive AFL ruckman.

In normal years, is probably certainty to get selected in the rookie list. This year, he may miss out just due to sheer lack of rookie spots with clubs rushing to list all their borderline senior list players as "rookies".

I doubt we'll draft him, especially since we don't have a rookie draft selection.

If Henry puts on 20kg he will be the heaviest player in the AFL by a fair margin now that Aaron Sandilands

Aaron Sandilands

Age

41

Ht

211cm

Wt

118kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

8.2

5star

CL

3.3

5star

HO

31.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

5.4

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

2.0

2star

HO

13.6

5star

is retired easily surpassing current day monsters Mason Cox

46

Mason Cox

Age

33

Ht

211cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

and Maxxy Gawn who are both taller. Maybe someone had a foot on the scales but that's what he measured in at at the Combine.

He measured in at 204.3cm and 95.5 Kegs at the recent SANFL Combine according to AFL Draft Central's Ed Pascoe...he's no longer the 82kg string bean he was at the start of last year.

 

[DJ75]

Surely not re-signing Brad has freed up considerable cash, $600K that hasn't gone anywhere else?

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That money is in the same war chest as the Tippett money and the Dangerfield money.
I suspect we are close to buying a mansion on Sydney Harbour.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

No, that's against existing contracts. Would only be an issue if we signed or extended someone that included a clause that their payments were not impacted. To be material to the discussion it would need to be a huge contact.

But the AFL have left it up to clubs to renegotiate player contracts to find $1.3m savings... which is why you have the Pies in so much strife as they were already overloaded.

We are saving Brouch, Atkins, Hartigan & Knight, along with no longer paying for Betts & Jenkins. This would be comfortably finding the savings needed & fitting in Hately & Keays on a new deal.

 

[1970crow]

Yes, agree on Hately, but the fact we were considering a match suggests some room, it wasn't a matter of us not being able to afford Brad was it?

Maybe we've given the change to McKay?

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Were we considering matching? Maybe before Hately fell in our lap, perhaps not after. Maybe we couldn't which is why we didn't.

 

[Mismatched]

If Henry puts on 20kg he will be the heaviest player in the AFL by a fair margin now that Aaron Sandilands

Aaron Sandilands

Age

41

Ht

211cm

Wt

118kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

8.2

5star

CL

3.3

5star

HO

31.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

5.4

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

2.0

2star

HO

13.6

5star

is retired easily surpassing current day monsters Mason Cox

46

Mason Cox

Age

33

Ht

211cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

and Maxxy Gawn who are both taller. Maybe someone had a foot on the scales but that's what he measured in at at the Combine.

He measured in at 204.3cm and 95.5 Kegs at the recent SANFL Combine according to AFL Draft Central's Ed Pascoe...he's no longer the 82kg string bean he was at the start of last year.

Fair enough, tried to check his weight, apparently I was working off old data.

 

[Golumless]

Were we considering matching? Maybe before Hately fell in our lap, perhaps not after. Maybe we couldn't which is why we didn't.

We knew Hately was coming here before the whole Brad Crouch

5

Brad Crouch

Age

30

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.1

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

5.5

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

20.3

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

9.1

5star

M

1.5

2star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.6

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

2.6

5star

fiasco.

With the money freed up by not needing to resign Atkins and Hartigan (noting we probably were planning to if we didn't implode in 2020), as well as Betts and Jenkins salary off our books, I doubt it factors.

Brad seemed like we talked big game before getting cold feet on it.

 

[Mego Red]

No, that's against existing contracts. Would only be an issue if we signed or extended someone that included a clause that their payments were not impacted. To be material to the discussion it would need to be a huge contact.

Fair call. I hadn't actually heard that the AFLPA had agreed that all players were pro rata cutting their pay by 10%. But seeing some of the weirdness that's happening at Essendon, that's probably true.

 

[SuperBashBros]

Looks like Fogs putting in some work which is good to see.

 

[Atypical7]

Looks like Fogs putting in some work which is good to see.

Been saying this for weeks, the kid is working overtime and running faster than ever.

 

[deeztreez]

Looks like Fogs putting in some work which is good to see.

Weapon.

 

[beartoo]

I keep getting this strange symbol blocking text and the legend 'Requests to the server have been blocked by an extension'. Does anyone know how to fix this?

 

[hey shorty]

I loved him before... But wow.

 

[baldandbroke]

Looks like Fogs putting in some work which is good to see.

Just how much crap / fines will he cop from the playing group for that photo

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Fair call. I hadn't actually heard that the AFLPA had agreed that all players were pro rata cutting their pay by 10%. But seeing some of the weirdness that's happening at Essendon, that's probably true.

I don't believe the AFLPA has agreed to pro-rata cuts next year, like they did this year.

Mentioned on the Draft & Trading Board that the AFL has left it to clubs to renegotiate contracts to fit within the $1.3M reduced salary cap.

 

[DJ75]

Looks like Fogs putting in some work which is good to see.

That is great to see. Really pleased he has been putting in the work.

I'll get really excited when I see Tex and McAdam looking the same...

 

[betterthanu]

I keep getting this strange symbol blocking text and the legend 'Requests to the server have been blocked by an extension'. Does anyone know how to fix this?

You probably have a Platinum Membership - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/account/upgrades running that stops embedded tweets from showing up

 

[Drewie11]

Time to sign the fog on a 4 year contract before he adds $100k per year on his contract after this season. Looks like he’s ready to play this year

 

[Vader]

That is great to see. Really pleased he has been putting in the work.

I'll get really excited when I see Tex and McAdam looking the same...

Whatchootalkinabout Willis? Tex was in great shape after the COVID lockdown. Round is a shape.

 

[beartoo]

You probably have a Platinum Membership - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/account/upgrades running that stops embedded tweets from showing up

Thanks for the reply, but that's not it.

 

[betterthanu]

Thanks for the reply, but that's not it.

Theres some weird auto editing from bigfooty going on there because thats not at all what i typed.... Strange