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It ended pretty badly with Wingard and Port Power didn't it?

Must have burnt a lot of their supporters to see him rubbish their club when he left, him of all their players ended up hating them. Good times.

The rumors were he’d had a massive falling out with a lot of the playing group. Also was a player who had periods of laziness On the training track (perhaps that’s what put him off Side with other players).

Unless hawks regime have turned him around I can’t say I’m interested.
 

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A young Charlie Dixon in action for Cairns Saints in 2007.
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Shocking jumper clash.
 
In fact mediocre players in good teams turn into bog average players in bad teams. Take away the well drilled structures and A-Grade support and these players often get found out.

agreed

wonder how many people look at our fortunes, and then Richmond’s since 2017 and still think we lost an unloseable grand final?
 
Of course I was talking about Brandon Ellis , will finish top5 in their bf this year easily , in fact wouldn’t surprise if he won it. I was responding to your point that the players departed Richmond hadn’t amounted to much I listed 5-6 that have played most games.

The **** has Brandon freaking Ellis got to do with bog standard plodder Jack Graham?
 
Dixon goes to Brisbane - plays maybe 20 more games before his body falls apart, PAPs walk away with a first and a second by cashing out.

PAPs trade Wines for an early first, get Crouch for free.

They'd be geniuses if they did this.
 
So Atkins rumored to be on the move?

Yet another player who had one great season, which was clearly and outlier, and should’ve been traded at the time.

And it’s not hindsight - plenty here said it at the time; same as Lynch and Jenkins.

Dixon goes to Brisbane - plays maybe 20 more games before his body falls apart, PAPs walk away with a first and a second by cashing out.

PAPs trade Wines for an early first, get Crouch for free.

They'd be geniuses if they did this.

Yep - Roo framing his potential exit as a disaster, when Port have excelled at trade/draft time of late. He’s had one season where he’s met expectations - and it’s this absolute mess of a year. Every other year, for a number of reasons, he’s been nothing special.

They’ll probably pull something out of their arses here and trade him for huge value.
 
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$450k to $550k would give us band 2 compo.

He's a free agent this off season.

Band 4 and Band 5 would be virtually the same pick (end of second round and after our 3rd round pick, which will be right at the start of the 3rd round).

Yeah scrap the idea, didnt realise he was a FA and not a RFA. Still, forcing the trade and securing a mid to late 2nd would be handy. I think there's pretty decent depth inside the top 30 of this draft by the looks of things.

We just really, REALLY need to get pick 2. Lock in Hollands with 1 and then 2 gives us SO many options to trade with Sydney, or dangle Mcdonald in front of Freo and really extract max value for the pick. Supports will hate us trading 2, but there's a serious amount to gain if we're clever.
 

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Hartigan was alright on the game's best power forward, can see him being picked up by another AFL club if we don't sign him.

Hartigan's application was similar to the game he put in on Robbie Grey a few years ago. Totally different players to stand but the thing that stuck out is when given a simple role where he doesn't have to ovethink team defense he goes alright.
 
So Atkins rumored to be on the move?

Yet another player who had one great season, which was clearly and outlier, and should’ve been traded at the time.

And it’s not hindsight - plenty hear said it at the time; same as Lynch and Jenkins.



Yep - Roo framing his potential exit as a disaster, when Port have excelled at trade/draft time of late. He’s had one season where he’s met expectations - and it’s this absolute mess of a year. Every other year, for a number of reasons, he’s been nothing special.

They’ll probably pull something out of their arses here and trade him for huge value.
This is where they'll be smart. Rumours of Crouch coming in, get him for what they're paying Wines, trade out Wines for a 1st, extra player for nothing.
 
This is where they'll be smart. Rumours of Crouch coming in, get him for what they're paying Wines, trade out Wines for a 1st, extra player for nothing.

Wines is rumoured to be on 900k. Port Power could even save cap room in this scenario.

Offer Brad 700k.

If you rated Wines and Brad similarly, this move is so smart. You swap out Wines for Brad, save 200k, gain the first rounder for Wines.

Throw in the fact Brad is better than Wines and it's a great move.
 
Wines is rumoured to be on 900k. Port Power could even save cap room in this scenario.

Offer Brad 700k.

If you rated Wines and Brad similarly, this move is so smart. You swap out Wines for Brad, save 200k, gain the first rounder for Wines.

Throw in the fact Brad is better than Wines and it's a great move.

Yeah but a club who would be interested in Wines is far more likely to be interested in Brouch, especially if throwing a few extra $$ means they don't cough up a 1st round draft pick too.

He won't be a Port player next year..
 

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I would only entertain getting Chad if he came reasonably cheaply. That's in respects to both his salary, and what we'd need to give up to get him. This is unlikely. So, therefore a big no from me.
 
I don't know what it is about Chad Wingard, but something about him makes me think he would be a negative impact on a lockerroom. Just gives off the vibe of someone who just by their body language can make a place feel uncomfortable or non inclusive.

I'm not basing that off anything i've heard, just a gut feeling, could be totally wrong.
 
I don't know what it is about Chad Wingard, but something about him makes me think he would be a negative impact on a lockerroom. Just gives off the vibe of someone who just by their body language can make a place feel uncomfortable or non inclusive.

I'm not basing that off anything i've heard, just a gut feeling, could be totally wrong.
You're not alone never seen too many players drop their lip so quickly as Whinegard when things aren't going well....Pass
 

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