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Young Gun #6

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It also needs to be taken into account the complete mismanagement of that groin injury a few years ago.

He wanted to have the surgery as recommended by Simon Black, who he flew up to see as he had the same issues.

Burton wouldn't allow it. Ended up missing nearly triple the time he would've had he had the surgery like he wanted.
Spot on. Reckon I mentioned a similar thing a few years back. Brad was my year level all through high school at the same School so always got good mail.
 

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Duckimus Prime

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I felt like this was true til I saw how the AFL is shaping up to overcompensate them for Atkins.

I can see them giving them an end of 1st/start of 2nd for Atkins + pick 2 for Crouch.
The Crows are going to go into this draft with 2 top 10 picks to start with. The AFL isn't going to be looking at giving them a leg up with picks through compensation. Atkins will probably rank a band 3 compensation based on Ellis's and CEY contract, which is identical to Band 2 for the Crows.

They're still trying to give Gold Coast a leg up, and having the Crows grabbing so many of the non-NGA kids out hampers that.
 

Shaucob_Burjan

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Who remembers when the AFL themselves suggested for Essendon to void Ryder's contract to get a first round compo pick and Port to trade their first so that Essendon could get two first round picks.

Then other AFL clubs started bitching and it didn't happen.
 

Arsene Wenger

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I don't believe they actually get to keep him. It's like when Dangerfield left, you then have to trade with the club of choice
My point is that if they know they wont get pick 2 as compo and Crouch is keen to come to Port, they will offer the same money and just keep him. I think he would probably also be keen to stay.

Although compo decision is after the fact, clubs know what they are going to get.
 

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Mundusa

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Trade or they stay. Crouch has said he would like to stay so it is in the crows court now to offer him a decent deal.
I haven't visited the crows board so I'll ask here.
What do the supporters honestly think of a player like Brad potentially leaving? Surely he's right up there with being the most required player at AFC
 

chiwigi

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I haven't visited the crows board so I'll ask here.
What do the supporters honestly think of a player like Brad potentially leaving? Surely he's right up there with being the most required player at AFC
They wanted him long gone!

Then he came back and they have won every game since.
 

Shaucob_Burjan

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They wanted him long gone!

Then he came back and they have won every game since.
Nah the majority of their board definitely want him out if it results in pick 2.

They're hypocrites. In the event he stays because it won't net them pick 2, they're going to go on a parade how they're all about loyalty and never wanted him gone.
 

Enviable Tradition

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Oct 12, 2007
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Nah the majority of their board definitely want him out if it results in pick 2.

They're hypocrites. In the event he stays because it won't net them pick 2, they're going to go on a parade how they're all about loyalty and never wanted him gone.
They really are kicking goals in mending their retention and culture issues.
 

RussellEbertHandball

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'Many believe he will leave the Crows if a strong suitor emerges – "One always does," a list manager said – with the view that if he did depart Adelaide, he would attract a deal worth $600-700,000 a season. One club placed his value at approximately $500-550,000 a season, citing his lost zip after missing all of 2018 with groin troubles.

A player agent said if he was managing Crouch he would start his asking price at $750,000 knowing it would likely end up closer to $600,000, adding that the length of the contract was important.

"He's 26, so I would be asking for a five-year deal," he said.'


From what I have heard this isn't that far away from the truth. Apparently there is a stand off between years and dollars at the moment. My preference would be front loaded 4 yr deal (not too dissimilar to Rockliff) to average at the $600-625k mark.
Given the broadcasters have given the AFL approx a 15% or so haircut on TV rights for 2020-22 years, (Telstra didn't cut their $50m/year), and many other revenue streams are still uncertain you would have to discount any "old salary figures" down by 20% maybe more.

So when you hear $600k interpret that as he will be offered closer to $500k. Will Ken Woods formula for compensation have a covid adjustment factor??
 

JakeNeadeFan

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Given the broadcasters have given the AFL approx a 15% or so haircut on TV rights for 2020-22 years, (Telstra didn't cut their $50m/year), and many other revenue streams are still uncertain you would have to discount any "old salary figures" down by 20% maybe more.

So when you hear $600k interpret that as he will be offered closer to $500k. Will Ken Woods formula for compensation have a covid adjustment factor??
Ken Wood has been layed off.
 

RussellEbertHandball

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So doginess maybe back in vogue. Good i've talked about doing partnerships with Uni's and private companies re dodging the soft cap - ie footy department expenditure - where Port doesn't spend any money to own assets by the partnership but uses the assets for a peppercorn rent. Maybe get Woods on as a consultant to confirm the form over substance structure.
 

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