List Mgmt. 2020 Trade Thread - Part I

[Skiddies]

Oh I hope you’re right. That’s delicious. Trealor/Taranto and De Goey. Wait if we get De Goey he’s worth two first round picks. That’s gonna make it impossible to get Trealor and or Taranto.

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Pies are desperate to trade him. They’ll take unders.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Treloar, no thanks.
Good but not great, injury prone, high salary, age doesn't fit, we don't have picks to be throwing around.

Higgins, hard pass.
Age doesn't fit, we don't have picks to be throwing around,
takes a spot off someone who'll be around for 10 years, type you get after you win one first.

Caldwell, nothing announced yet.
Still in play.

I get the impression we're feeding media hype for publicity atm.
Just linking quality players to our club to raise our profile.

 

[borderbarry]

So Taranto has played some good games! I never saw any of them, the Saints were'nt involved.

On those figures he definitely would be a good pickup.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Pies are desperate to trade him. They’ll take unders.

Yeah but how much unders?
I don't think they'll accept a 4th round pick, and the Saints have other needs to account for too.

 

[XhazzafootyX]

Pies are desperate to trade him. They’ll take unders.

You seem pretty confident on this

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Most likely a wind up given the jokes and excitement over certain other blonde players. Just to see how up and about everyone gets

 

[Klaatu]

Hate to be a Payne but didn't i mention Jack on 27/9.......

 

[CaptainRisky]

Hate to be a Payne but didn't i mention Jack on 27/9.......

Michelle or Patrick ?

 

[Jay Beast]

Trelor is Hanners 2.0 - avoid, he is definitely not a fit.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

So Payne looks a lock, what do we want for Jake?

 

[Yawkey way]

Unless treloar is being offered on a Dempster, Schneider style deal I have absolutely zero interest.

Best football is probably behind him and he’s starting to get into the chronic hamstring problems. This has turned ugly in a hurry, one minute we had a reservation at Attica now somehow we’re lining up at McDonalds.

Collingwood aren’t noted for their generosity or stupidity, I’d be very wary of any mates deals they propose.

 

[CaptainRisky]

So Payne looks a lock, what do we want for Jake?

Some South Melb Dimmies would be good

 

[Remboy]

Lethers just bought a truckload of Lego.

Make of that what you will.

He’s going to build a player out of lego? Probably means my idea of getting one off a 3D printer didn’t get up.

 

[Ducky Tie]

Wonder what it would take to get Payne. Hasn't played much and wasn't a high draft pick so wouldn't be too high. Is contracted though and KPDs don't grow on trees so Brisbane wouldn't be giving him up easily.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Re Treloar

Nah don't want - clearly he's not perfect so why would we bother!!!

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Jesus SS when I PM'ed you, I asked you not to put that out on the forum. Bloody hell.

How else can i establish a rep?

 

[SaintsSeptember]

He’s going to build a player out of lego? Probably means my idea of getting one off a 3D printer didn’t get up.

Take a photo of it for me, i need to ditch this Essendon druggy.

 

[bird_man]

Sounds right, he's injury prone and expensive. We like those types.

If it's a salary dump I can't imagine it costing a lot of draft picks.

Not that keen on him though. The type we need but his age and injuries isnt ideal.

 

[PrinceofSeaford]

Degoey would make our forward line one of the hardest to match up on in the league. With king, membrey, butler, degoey and Marshall and battle going through there it would cause some headaches for sure.... one can only dream

 

[Ducky Tie]

I would be absolutely staggered if the club went for De Goey. There is clearly a huge emphasis on culture/character and he does not fit the mould I would have thought.

 

[Veer Right]

Re Treloar

Nah don't want - clearly he's not perfect so why would we bother!!!


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Gets the pill a plenty but constantly does nothing kicks which make for an easy rebound. So will be a 28 year old Gresham next year.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Gets the pill a plenty but constantly does nothing kicks which make for an easy rebound. So will be a 28 year old Gresham next year.

You obviously don’t watch the Pies very much...


Or the Saints for that matter.


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[Crusty Undies]

no.

So you're allowed to make sweeping statements about what "100% of people who watch football know", but no one else is? Got it.
Fine then I'll show you why Taranto is better.
Taranto has had a bad year this year (still better than Heeney's for what it's worth), but he has publicly stated GWS didn't adapt well to the changing comp and it made it hard for him to perform so let's look at 2019 instead. You know, the year GWS made a GF in which Taranto was clearly their bog. So 2019 in a struggling midfield Heeney is still in his 5th year playing predominantly as a forward who can pinch hit averaging 20 touches and just over a goal a game, 2/3 of his disposals are still handballs despite his position. Taranto in his 2nd year breaks into the most talented midfield in the league and in his 3rd year becomes arguably its best player, 27 disposals a game, .5 goals a game, 7.5 tackles a game, 6 clearances a game, more contested ball by a league, more kicks and all at a higher DE than Heeney who was getting a comfy ride as a 3rd tall forward. Heeney is talented no question but he's not comparable to Taranto at all. Taranto is a league above his entire age bracket and having one bad injury riddled season doesn't change that.

 

[Veer Right]

You obviously don’t watch the Pies very much...

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I have a Collingwood mate who says the same thing, he hates him so your another who doesn't watch any games.

 

[12Chill]

So you're allowed to make sweeping statements about what "100% of people who watch football know", but no one else is? Got it.
Fine then I'll show you why Taranto is better.
Taranto has had a bad year this year (still better than Heeney's for what it's worth), but he has publicly stated GWS didn't adapt well to the changing comp and it made it hard for him to perform so let's look at 2019 instead. You know, the year GWS made a GF in which Taranto was clearly their bog. So 2019 in a struggling midfield Heeney is still in his 5th year playing predominantly as a forward who can pinch hit averaging 20 touches and just over a goal a game, 2/3 of his disposals are still handballs despite his position. Taranto in his 2nd year breaks into the most talented midfield in the league and in his 3rd year becomes arguably its best player, 27 disposals a game, .5 goals a game, 7.5 tackles a game, 6 clearances a game, more contested ball by a league, more kicks and all at a higher DE than Heeney who was getting a comfy ride as a 3rd tall forward. Heeney is talented no question but he's not comparable to Taranto at all. Taranto is a league above his entire age bracket and having one bad injury riddled season doesn't change that.

While I don’t disagree that Taranto has some serious runs on the board, claiming that 2/3 of Heeney’s disposals are handballs is blatantly factually incorrect. He has never had more handballs than kicks in a season let alone 2/3rds.

I personally think Heeney’s best is more damaging and he’s more of a game winner clutch type but he’s a little inconsistent which is to be expected playing almost full time forward, whereas Taranto is ultra consistent in the midfield, where Heeney still hasn’t had an extended run in yet. To be honest, I don’t know if it’s entirely Heeney’s lack of midfield ability or the fact that Buddy never gets on the park these days and Heeney was playing pretty much a De Goey type role as an all round I50 target.

Not as if this is a debate that means much. Heeney is not going anywhere and Taranto probably isn’t (at least yet) either.