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List Mgmt. 2020 Trade Thread - Part III

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BigMonty said:
Surely Dunstan would have his nose out of joint with Crouch and Bytel ahead a d potentially Trelor he is no chance of a game.

Ross unhappy just does not make sense. He goes from mid no 3 to mid no 5. Takes Steele's spot as a run with.

Moving Webster Dunstan and Lonie gets us potentially 3 picks in the late 20s to mid 30s.

If we can bundle them up for Trelor using our first this year makes sense. If not we can use these picks for upgrades for teams that need points this year.

Maybe even Caldwell if Doddo does his usual trick and GWS get sick of waiting.

If Seb wants to leave then we should get a pick in the late teens I reckon. Makes Trelor more affordable but in reality there is not much change but may create disharmony in the team which we do not need.

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I think its simplistic to say "Player X is ahead of Player Y"
Its going to depend on form, and Injury. ( Dunstan was not available when Bytel came in ).

But yeah its a wake up call for a guy who was used to playing every game.
Dunstan had more Brownlow points than Bytel this year. ( OK point ).
 
Keg still on legs said:
Our boys are always so generous in helping other clubs out, I was tinkering with ideas on how we could help 3 clubs out with 2 trades

Of course on the face of it these are all to our advantage but some late pick swaps would even them up

Now, consider that the dogs will want 2 future 1sts for Dunkley, pies won't want a 2021 1st and methendon are campaigners..

So-

We swap 17 with the pies for their 2021 1st

We then swap our 2021 1st with methendon for pick 7 or 8

Methendon have 2 2021 1sts for dunkley (they're gonna lose 7/8 one way or the other to get Dunkley)

Pies get out of 2021 1st round and have 2 x 1sts this year

Dogs get 2 future firsts and don't damage their 2020 position for JUH

We keep a 1st round interest both years with likely slight upgrades

Of course we do all of this because we are a magnanimous club always looking to just be helpful 😉
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Will the real Satan please step forward .....



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Tommy Wigs said:
Fine as a forward backstop. Just hope we don’t get injuries to both Ro and Ryder, as we have no ruck back up
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If either of those two is injured , the other takes the bulk of the ruckwork, while Shaun rucks for 5 or 6 minutes while the main ruck is resting. Not a big deal.
Or should we get Acres back to do it?
 

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crasha301 said:
Apparently the pies are willing to pay 900k over the 5 years to get treloar out.

Basically paying 1 year of his 5 year contract.

Things just got interesting.

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If we can arrange to have that spread over his most expensive years, that could be a huge factor.
Apparently 2021 is his chepest year but then it goes up to 900k for the next few. Could split thos years by a third by arrangement and he becomes very affordable.
 

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SaintsSeptember said:
When Michael Rix joined the Saints, Thomas told him he would probably never get a senior game.
Rix who once had 22 hitouts, played 29 games in 3 years, 17 in 2007.
Also rucking in 2007 was Matthew Clark who must have been around 67 years old at the time.
Doc's wiki page says " He performed strongly as the side's primary ruckman, displaying his usual ruckwork dexterity. " which is why you need to check on what you read in Wikipedia. ( He had 26 hitouts in one game ).

Me , i'm pretty happy to have McKernan. Who not only had 22 hitouts as recently as 2019, but has also been known to kick 3 or 4 goals.
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He is a big body who can mark and kick and if we need him we use him.
 
Hubnester said:
If we can arrange to have that spread over his most expensive years, that could be a huge factor.
Apparently 2021 is his chepest year but then it goes up to 900k for the next few. Could split thos years by a third by arrangement and he becomes very affordable.
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I'd try to take most of it the first two years. Paying him up to a million if we can. Then when we get others, like Geary, Carlisle , Hannebery leaving we have a bit more available.
 
Hubnester said:
If we can arrange to have that spread over his most expensive years, that could be a huge factor.
Apparently 2021 is his chepest year but then it goes up to 900k for the next few. Could split thos years by a third by arrangement and he becomes very affordable.
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We can probably change the loading to an extent. If he's aggregable.
Most people would agree to being paid more sooner.
 
scotteydog said:
If our forward entry is good, McKernan may surprise a few. Heart & soul player, who will give his best. I've seen him play some rippers, just not consistently. I'd liken him to Brucey, which I'm sure will get a laugh.
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I’d say he’s a lot more athletic than Bruce.
And probably more unco, less footy skills.
But the inconsistency is a bang on comparison.
Will go missing for 3 games then kick a bag once a month.
 
SaintsSeptember said:
We can probably change the loading to an extent. If he's aggregable.
Most people would agree to being paid more sooner.
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Good point.
Either way, it sounds feasible if all partie want it to happen enough.
 

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Could Treloar play 6 years? 28 going into next season so risky.

Bring him in on the 5x 900 but then negotiate a 6th season for a $1 cheeseburger and smooth out the contract that way?
 
SaintsSeptember said:
If either of those two is injured , the other takes the bulk of the ruckwork, while Shaun rucks for 5 or 6 minutes while the main ruck is resting. Not a big deal.
Or should we get Acres back to do it?
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I’d be looking to recruit Josh Dunkley in as a back up ruck.
 
SaintsSeptember said:
I think its simplistic to say "Player X is ahead of Player Y"
Its going to depend on form, and Injury. ( Dunstan was not available when Bytel came in ).

But yeah its a wake up call for a guy who was used to playing every game.
Dunstan had more Brownlow points than Bytel this year. ( OK point ).
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If I was Dunstan I would start to feel like I am not best 22 and look at my options. Just like Newnes did and good on him.
Win win or break even is a good result rather than win lose scenario. Luke is not in my starting 22 next year. He is a GOF in an ordinary team...we must no longer see ourselves as middle table team and move players that have deficiencies in their game as it gets shown up in finals.
Love Luke but he is slow and his disposal is average at best and that is a liability these days.
He should look elsewhere before he us pushed. Carlton Essendon maybe GCS should look at him as they need an inside mid.

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AaronSCHQ said:
I’d be looking to recruit Josh Dunkley in as a back up ruck.
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You just know that’s one of the reasons he’s leaving.

“Hey Josh, we know your one of the best young mids in the comp, but how about we have you get kneed in the guts by monsters like Mummy a dozen times a game.”
 
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