List Mgmt. 2020 Trade Thread.....

[Passmore]

I've got north_lad's absolute epic description

Every time I read that I laugh.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I live for this thread every year but there’s bigger waste of bandwidth than our discussions in it.


But seriously I like Sam Weideman and he might be gettable.

 

[shinboner magic]

I live for this thread every year but there’s bigger waste of bandwidth than our discussions in it.


But seriously I like Sam Weideman and he might be gettable.

You must be joking - he’s their only decent forward.
Cost a lot

 

[king rising]

Zac Williams playing brilliantly today, hope the club are really prioritising his recruitment

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

We had no idea he could play forward probably but Finlayson is a gun.

 

[New_Roo]

Port Adelaides.

Ok so very late 1st rders then! 17th and 18th


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[New_Roo]

We had no idea he could play forward probably but Finlayson is a gun.

Finlayson is another of those cheaper experienced fwds like miochek that we could get in while kids developing.... should BBB be traded that is


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[Rooboys Rool]

For those that enjoy these, have done a scenario based on trading Brown and maximising draft picks (but I still want Caldwell):

Start with picks 3, 5, 29, 59, 60 & 78

1. Trade Brown and pick 29 to Brisbane for picks 15 & 18.
2. Trade pick 15 to Port Adelaide for picks 22 & 28. (Allows Port to get a player in before a bid on Jones).
3. Trade pick 3, 28 & 60 to Geelong for picks 11, 14 & 16.
4. Trade pick 22 to GWS for Caldwell.


End with these picks and examples of who we could pick up:

5 - Phillips / Hollands / DGB / McDonald / Thilthorpe
11 - Trew / Bruhn / O'Driscoll
14 - Reid / Cox
16 - Perkins / Ford
18 - Macrae / Powell

We could also look to live trade one of those picks in the teens to Collingwood - drop a few places in this draft and extort their 2021 1st rounder out of them so that they can get a player in before McInness.

 

[King Corey]

I don't like sweetening the Brown deal or the return for pick 3 in that little hypothetical. Needs more reach for the stars.

2 Laidleys out of 5.

 

[Conundrum]

Yes this has escalated very quickly - that journo saying he was shopped a few weeks back may have been close to the mark.

Looks like a deal is done and just needs formal inking.

The rumours of 2 (albeit late) firsts from the Lions has the most credibility - both from their side and ours.

4 first rounders is what the doctor ordered for us - it will be say 4, 6, 14, 16......which will enable us to - at last - really hit the draft hard with 3 mids and a kpd.

I'd like to know a bit more about Polec though...what is the true story there I wonder.

Hmm I've got some doubts on that, going the full rebuild and trading him out for picks sounds appealing for the long term, but would we really go into next season with Larkey as our only recognised key forward? I guess it could work if we put Daw or Walker up forward with Larkey, they seem to be better defenders than forwards though...

If we were looking to get someone in to replace him, it'd cost us dearly to find someone to replace a bloke who kicked 60+ goals last three years. Albeit, so far this year, he hasn't been very effective

 

[Passmore]

Hmm I've got some doubts on that, going the full rebuild and trading him out for picks sounds appealing for the long term, but would we really go into next season with Larkey as our only recognised key forward? I guess it could work if we put Daw or Walker up forward with Larkey, they seem to be better defenders than forwards though...

If we were looking to get someone in to replace him, it'd cost us dearly to find someone to replace a bloke who kicked 60+ goals last three years. Albeit, so far this year, he hasn't been very effective

If we were looking to trade him, that is the exact reason that we would be doing it.

 

[New_Roo]

If we were looking to trade him, that is the exact reason that we would be doing it.

And there are other options avail that are more than serviceable and some good draft kpf too


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[TennisPlayerAndy]

I’m still in the two first round picks for the guy who has kicked more goals than anyone else in the league over the last three years.

One of those picks under 10.

 

[Snake_Baker]

I’m still in the two first round picks for the guy who has kicked more goals than anyone else in the league over the last three years.

One of those picks under 10.

You just wouldn't trade him unless he was asking for OTT coin.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

You just wouldn't trade him unless he was asking for OTT coin.

Not actively, no.

But you’d consider it if you got overs from a desperate, think-they’re-in-the premiership-window club.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Not actively, no.

But you’d consider it if you got overs from a desperate, think-they’re-in-the premiership-window club.

I very much doubt that would occur, and there's the fabric of the club to consider. It's sets a shithouse agenda if clubs traded out blokes based upon such a premise.

Ben just needs a point of difference in the forward line to get the double team off him.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

I very much doubt that would occur, and there's the fabric of the club to consider. It's sets a shithouse agenda if clubs traded out blokes based upon such a premise.

Ben just needs a point of difference in the forward line to get the double team off him.

I think we need to move past the ‘one club player’ and try to make the absolute most of what you have. Brown is a star, albeit a limited one.

Not saying be as ruthless as American sport, but be more open to trading players than we currently are.

 

[New_Roo]

You just wouldn't trade him unless he was asking for OTT coin.

Or an OTT offer?


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[The Nostradamus]

what we also aren't privy to is how well liked teammates are amongst the group or vice versa unliked

 

[Merlin007]

I think the factor that we need to consider in this thread is the financial one. Revenue is down, and debt is up. In that environment - and given we're rebuilding anyway - assuming we could get two draft picks for BBB, we take quality kids from the draft, at a cost of (plus or minus) a third of what BBB's 700-800k in the first year (presumably of a min. 3 year deal). On the same logic, even if we had to pay half of Polec or Goldy or Higgins' contracts, second or third rounders for each would have to be considered (preferably for picks in 2021, which would push the wages cost out another year). With list sizes being cut, you then top up with moneyball options where you see a structural gap in the list.

People mightn't like it, but I bet Brady and Amarfio are having this conversation

 

[Conundrum]

I think the factor that we need to consider in this thread is the financial one. Revenue is down, and debt is up. In that environment - and given we're rebuilding anyway - assuming we could get two draft picks for BBB, we take quality kids from the draft, at a cost of (plus or minus) a third of what BBB's 700-800k in the first year (presumably of a min. 3 year deal). On the same logic, even if we had to pay half of Polec or Goldy or Higgins' contracts, second or third rounders for each would have to be considered (preferably for picks in 2021, which would push the wages cost out another year). With list sizes being cut, you then top up with moneyball options where you see a structural gap in the list.

People mightn't like it, but I bet Brady and Amarfio are having this conversation

A lot is still up in the air and needs to play out in terms of coronavirus impact on finances, however what you've suggested wouldn't apply if the current rule of needing to pay at least 95% of salary cap stays. whatever size lists are cut to, we wouldn't be able to 'save money' on having a list of young players, they'd just be paid more than they might be worth at this stage of their careers.

 

[giantroo]

 

[gokangas]

Hope he asked Gil if it was ok to post that.

 

[LB2Snake]

This s**t is so transparent.....7.5K purely an “Investment” into future clients
Pretty much just like having a golf day for prospective and future clients. What a crock.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

What a snake.