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List Mgmt. 2020 Young Talent time

Who do you want with our first pick?

  • Heath Chapman

    Votes: 23 16.7%
  • Nik Cox

    Votes: 46 33.3%
  • Jack Carrol

    Votes: 10 7.2%
  • Archie Perkins

    Votes: 16 11.6%
  • Zach Reid

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Oliver Henry

    Votes: 12 8.7%
  • Nathan O'Driscoll

    Votes: 14 10.1%
  • Zane Trew

    Votes: 3 2.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 13 9.4%

  • Total voters
    138

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And Knightmare's phantom is here.

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_...ft-************-espn-full-final-phantom-draft
will be happy if we get Cook. Has Dangerfield vibes (not the annoying ones either). Similar size, creative around goals. Could make our forwardline a lot more dangerous.
 
this, from the guy who talked up how strong and resilient he had become in his draft video on the AFL website. Lol.

seriously between NGAs, academies and father sons, the draft becomes untenable if Vic kid's can just demand to stay home, Bailey Smith has set a sh*t precedent.
100%-it’s nothing but blatant draft tampering but coz it’s a poor vic kid you won’t hear shit from anyone in vic AFL circles
imagine the outcry from vic clubs/media/AFL if a highly touted WA/SA boy came out with this?..
Guarantee Gil be on the phone straight out with a please explain
 

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100%-it’s nothing but blatant draft tampering but coz it’s a poor vic kid you won’t hear sh*t from anyone in vic AFL circles
imagine the outcry from vic clubs/media/AFL if a highly touted WA/SA boy came out with this?..
Guarantee Gil be on the phone straight out with a please explain
Hopefully Gil is asking Perkins and his manager for a please explain.
 
100%-it’s nothing but blatant draft tampering but coz it’s a poor vic kid you won’t hear sh*t from anyone in vic AFL circles
imagine the outcry from vic clubs/media/AFL if a highly touted WA/SA boy came out with this?..
Guarantee Gil be on the phone straight out with a please explain

Ever hear the guy who MIGHT get drafted at pick 65 complain about moving interstate? No, it's the guys at the elite end who pull this bull shit, which thins the draft pool for other clubs.
 

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Bailey. Wingard reportedly did the same thing as well.
Yeah Wingate told GWS he’d be returning to SA after 2 years if they picked, so no point wasting a draft pick on him. But less so draft tampering I think, because he didn’t flat out say he wouldn’t go. 🤷🏻‍♀️

What did Smith say?

And I agree - the AFL should step in and say to Perkins - sorry little man, but we’ll put you up for next years draft and hope you might be ready for any possible outcome then.
 
I suppose the irony is Paracleet was actually defending the exact same thing you are saying here. Like all posters I agree and disagree with various things people say but KM and Chris both put effort beyond what the average poster puts in - do either deserve to be mocked/attacked?

I've loved Chris' insights this year, probably more than past years but I don't think his comments on KM are necessary. People are generally smart enough to work out when thoughts are "borrowed". I see a heap of posts I've made on here floating around the place without any credit - I don't feel the need to call people out about it - without having official roles in the AFL/media we are all reliant on information from others.

That is true in theory, but I feel calling KM out is perhaps warranted. He is paid to produce content for a major website as a so-called expert, and this should mean he is presenting his own/original opinions and sticking by them. He puts out a lot of information which I like to read, but it is also obvious that he takes other people's information/opinions and then passes it off as his own and/or changes his own ratings (often significantly).
 
Setting this precedent will greatly benefit us and west coast though...
It won’t tho.
Firstly VFL/AFL would 100% make an example of them if an interstate kid pulled this shit.
And secondly quite simply WA kids are by and large way more open to moving-eg have bit more fortitude than these pampered highly rated vic kids.

apart from McCarthy (who still at least went when drafted) you won’t see too many wa kids coming out saying WA or bust .

Even when we have wa players out of contract these days and looking to change clubs they’re almost as likely to choose another non wa club(see omeara, Martin , buddy etc)
 
Yeah Wingate told GWS he’d be returning to SA after 2 years if they picked, so no point wasting a draft pick on him. But less so draft tampering I think, because he didn’t flat out say he wouldn’t go. 🤷🏻‍♀️

What did Smith say?

And I agree - the AFL should step in and say to Perkins - sorry little man, but we’ll put you up for next years draft and hope you might be ready for any possible outcome then.

Yeah Wingard is very explicitly not tampering. He was perfectly happy to fulfill his rookie contract.

Perkins is really interesting because the article says "Sources have indicated that Perkins has opted against engaging with some non-Victorian clubs and even hinted to one that he would not join them if drafted by that club.". Which could be nothing given the 'sources have indicated' journalist speak but if true, that is clear cut tampering.
 

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Anyone hear D’Orazio on AFL.com.au saying Adam Cerra was in the same boat as Perkins and basically told freo he didn’t want to go there? But the club called his bluff and he signed on an extension soon after.
Would like to see Cerra extended beyond next year soon..
 
Brayden Cook must be soaking his feet in Seasol.

Batt Balmer today in his live chat said he was 192cm. He has gown 3cm in 1 week!

At this rate of progression I calculate that will be over 300cm by start of 2021 season.
There's the ruck/forward we've been looking for!
 

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