Prediction 2021 Best 22

[Del165892]

With the 2020 season now a certainty to be cancelled, I'm going to start looking towards 2021 to hopefully delay the onset of the deep depression that will soon overwhelm me. Here's how I think our team might look:

Cordy - Keath - Williams
Wood - Crozier - JJ
Hunter - Macrae - Richards
B. Smith - Lewis Young - Naughton
Weightman - Bruce - West
English - Bont - Dunkley
VanderMeer - Lachie Young - Daniel - Butler

Edit: Added Daniel who I initially overlooked.

 

[Virgin Dog]

With the 2020 season now a certainty to be cancelled, I'm going to start looking towards 2021 to hopefully delay the onset of the deep depression that will soon overwhelm me. Here's how I think our team might look:

Cordy Keath Williams
Wood Crozier JJ
Hunter Macrae B. Richards
B. Smith Lewis Young Naughton
Weightman Bruce West
English Bont Dunkley
VanderMeer Lachie Young McLean Libba

FB: Cordy - Keath - Williams
HB: Duryea - Le. Young - JJ
C: Richards - Macrae - Hunter
HF: Lipinski - Naughton - Dale
FF: Schache - Bruce - Weightman

Ruck: English - Bont - Dunkley
Int: Libba - La. Young - Vandermeer - B. Smith

Emer: West - Wallis - Lloyd - Daniel

Suckling, Dickson retired. McLean requested trade for more midfield time. Wood gone from the best 22. Trengove gone. Lloyd has been overtaken.

This is actually pretty hard to do tbh. My list of emergencies should really all be playing, but can't find space for them once I've assumed the two Youngs and Weightman have found their way into the side.

 

[Mojorisin]

Hopefully they do the ladder in alphabetical order so we get pick 1 and can take someone before marra. Surely we can organise for him to be isolated inside a gym to have him in peak form

 

[Del165892]

Hopefully they do the ladder in alphabetical order so we get pick 1 and can take someone before marra. Surely we can organise for him to be isolated inside a gym to have him in peak form

They'd do the draft order based on 2019 ladder you'd think

 

[Mojorisin]

They'd do the draft order based on 2019 ladder you'd think

Well I can only dream

 

[weltschmerz]

If we happen to have a draft pick outside our NGA and FS, we could see how Campbell Edwardes develops. Big classy winger.

 

[weltschmerz]

Well I can only dream

Of Finlay Macrae joining us along with JUH and Raak?

 

[Mojorisin]

Of Finlay Macrae joining us along with JUH and Raak?

Yes please

 

[Virgin Dog]

In the event the season didn't go ahead, I think honestly the fairest way to do it would be to hold a draft lottery. Not really fair that the bottom feeding teams get access to the same early draft picks by default. All future pick trading can then apply to 2021 picks instead of the intended 2020 picks

 

[Del165892]

In the event the season didn't go ahead, I think honestly the fairest way to do it would be to hold a draft lottery. Not really fair that the bottom feeding teams get access to the same early draft picks by default. All future pick trading can then apply to 2021 picks instead of the intended 2020 picks

I totally agree. Lottery seems most fair.

 

[dogwatch]

I totally agree. Lottery seems most fair.

To make it even fairer they could work out a system where the first 54 picks are allotted into bundles of 3 and balanced so that every bundle gets (near enough) the same number of draft points.

Then there's a lottery to determine which bundle of 3 each club gets.

 

[Del165892]

To make it even fairer they could work out a system where the first 54 picks are allotted into bundles of 3 and balanced so that every bundle gets (near enough) the same number of draft points.

Then there's a lottery to determine which bundle of 3 each club gets.

Seems fair. How long would it take Gold Coast to apply for a priority bundle, do you think?

 

[cherrypie]

I think a reasonably fair draft outcome would be a lottery with chances based on 2019 results.

Pick 1 would be random between clubs 13-18 then Pick 2 for clubs 12-18 (with whoever receives pick 1 removed) and so on.

A system like that could at least even out the competition without heavily favouring particular clubs since it is still down to chance.

A completely random lottery could screw clubs over that involved future picks in last years trade period.

 

[NthBondiDoggies]

Next year will be a great year for us. Last year our older three - Wood, Suckling and Dickson - saw only Suckling have a good year by their standards. I am a big fan of both the others but would be a big stretch to see any of them have a better year next year. Though hopefully have a good 2020 if the season plays out in some way.

Overall the trajectory for us remains great but Keath, Bruce, Trengrove and LLoyd will all be getting hitting the top of their peak in 2021 - so by then we will need to be able to replace them.

McLean and Cordy could go either way - both are AFL standard but have not nailed their roles.

Macrae, JJ, Crozier, Wallis and Dunkley are top players who will be at their peak of fit. Libba we hope in the same bracket depending on how he come back.

On the other side - the following will rise significantly:

- Bont (yes - will like Fyfe still get better. Imagine if he starts kicking straight?)
- Williams (he has incredible talent)
- Leyoung (he is 5 kilos off where he needs to be - like Liam Jones he will find consistency)
- Layoung (the heir apparent to the throne)
- Smith (could be our best player in a few years - kinda Dusty/Cotchin like.
- Dale (he will get to the Dickson level a few years ago of 40-50 goals)
- Lipinski (seems to hide behind Macrae and Dunkley but in most other clubs he would be all the talk - has a silk the others don’t have
- Schache (think he still has plenty if upside - he is 3 years away from knowing how good he will be)
- English (future star)
- West (future star - has seen what it will take in the finals and will be better for it. Already too good for VFL
- Richards (future star - inconsistency doesn’t hide talent)

For 2021 likely our line up will be something like:

Crozier Young Williams

JJ Keath LaYoung

Richards Macrae Hunter

Lipinski Naughton Dale

Weightman Bruce LLoyd

English Bont Smith

Dunkley West Libba Schache

And I can’t seem to fit Daniel in who is better than many but might be a position issue.

And we will have Mara and Raak as first years eventually replacing Bruce and Keath respectively. If Raak can end up big enough. Cordy will still be there and with Young older could be OK but may need another big move (McAsey??? For McLean - fair deal! Still want McStay. And keep the Mc for Mc swap)

BTW - I really like McLean but frustrated by his inconsistency. I expect if he plays consistently in the midfield of any team he would be very good but for us he is probably 7th and will soon be 8th. Excluding wings.

Bont
Macrae
Dunkley
Libba
Smith
Wallis
McLean*
West

This is a brilliant mid group. McLean would be top 4 in probably half the teams.

 

[Braybrook Son]

What we do need is another ruck, and desperately need a Full Back. Whether we develop either Young to play there or recruit/trade for another, it must be done. Cordy is NOT A FULL BACK. So, in saying that:
Daniel, Young, JJ
Crozier, Keith, Duryea
B. Smith, Dunkley, Hunter(hopefully someone replaces him by then.
Schache, Naughton, West
Lloyd, Bruce, Cavarra
English, Bont, Libba(if knees allow)
Inter: Macrae(fix your disposal), Sweet, Young, Richards

 

[weltschmerz]

What we do need is another ruck, and desperately need a Full Back. Whether we develop either Young to play there or recruit/trade for another, it must be done. Cordy is NOT A FULL BACK. So, in saying that:
Daniel, Young, JJ
Crozier, Keith, Duryea
B. Smith, Dunkley, Hunter(hopefully someone replaces him by then.
Schache, Naughton, West
Lloyd, Bruce, Cavarra
English, Bont, Libba(if knees allow)
Inter: Macrae(fix your disposal), Sweet, Young, Richards

Which Young is where? Lewis in the backline and Lachie on the bench, I'm guessing?

 

[Braybrook Son]

Which Young is where? Lewis in the backline and Lachie on the bench, I'm guessing?

Either Young, whoever is in better form

 

[BEaston]

FB: Cordy - Keath - Duryea
HB: Williams - Naughton - Daniel
C: Smith - Macrae - Hunter
HF: JJ - Bruce - Bont
FF: Wallis - English - Hannan

Ruck: Martin - Treloar - Dunkley
Int: Crozier - Libba - VDM - West/Lipinski/Jong

Having Cordy or Gardner as the 2nd tall back still worries me. Combined with Bruce and Naughton not working together in the the forward line, I'm moving him back. I know many will disagree. With the overload of midfielders I feel Bont is set to play a lot more time forward and he plays as another tall also. Due to this, I think moving Naughton back balances the team structure a lot more as having Bruce/Naughton/Bont/resting ruck is too tall up forward.

I'm not predicting that JUH becomes best-22 straight away, I think it might be a little too hopeful and might put too much pressure on him. If he does become best 22 straight way, I'm seeing it as a bonus.

Interchange consists of a backup defender, mid and forward, plus a utility type.

On paper, it looks like a very strong team.

 

[Boyd oh Boyd]

FB: Wood Young Williams
HB: Daniel Keath Crozier
C: B.Smith Macrae Hunter
HF: English Bruce Libba
FF: Dunkley Naughton Wallis
R: Martin Bont Treloar
I/C: Hannan Vandermeer Duryea JJ

Honestly, really tough to fit all those mids in. Bont, Treloar, Macrae and Dunkley should be on about equal time mid and forward. Macrae and Treloar playing more high half forward when they're there, Bont and Dunkley deeper goal threats. There's no shame in taking a longer term approach to Smith and having him out of the inside mid rotation for the early parts of his career. The others are better inside mids, we'll get more success right away playing our best mids in the middle. Libba might pinch hit but this is the time to start moving him on to the later stages of his career out of the midfield. He can play another 3 or 4 years if he plays forward and he's such a beautiful kick for goal. We can get a lot out of 15 touches in the forward half from Libba.

Bruce wasn't much good at full forward. I'm banking on him sliming down back into the CHF he was at the saints. Naughton isolated deep gives us a clear main forward target. Eventually he'll go back to CHF, JUH will take full forward, but that's a while down the track. Hopefully our mids practise their set shots because we'll need plenty of goals from them.

Go back to the smaller defence. Our run is our game plan, three tall defenders takes away our point of difference. I'm being a bit hopeful on Young because I don't really like Gardner or Cordy there. I've got English at half forward because he really should be roaming and getting back to help defence a fair bit.

Duryea plays defence, Vandermeer forward/wing, Hannan forward and JJ is a utility now. Some forward, some wing, some defence. Considering Martin will be on the bench when not rucking because he's not much use forward JJ will probably be more of a forward half player which I prefer.

 

[BEaston]

FB: Wood Young Williams
HB: Daniel Keath Crozier
C: B.Smith Macrae Hunter
HF: English Bruce Libba
FF: Dunkley Naughton Wallis
R: Martin Bont Treloar
I/C: Hannan Vandermeer Duryea JJ

Honestly, really tough to fit all those mids in. Bont, Treloar, Macrae and Dunkley should be on about equal time mid and forward. Macrae and Treloar playing more high half forward when they're there, Bont and Dunkley deeper goal threats. There's no shame in taking a longer term approach to Smith and having him out of the inside mid rotation for the early parts of his career. The others are better inside mids, we'll get more success right away playing our best mids in the middle. Libba might pinch hit but this is the time to start moving him on to the later stages of his career out of the midfield. He can play another 3 or 4 years if he plays forward and he's such a beautiful kick for goal. We can get a lot out of 15 touches in the forward half from Libba.

Bruce wasn't much good at full forward. I'm banking on him sliming down back into the CHF he was at the saints. Naughton isolated deep gives us a clear main forward target. Eventually he'll go back to CHF, JUH will take full forward, but that's a while down the track. Hopefully our mids practise their set shots because we'll need plenty of goals from them.

Go back to the smaller defence. Our run is our game plan, three tall defenders takes away our point of difference. I'm being a bit hopeful on Young because I don't really like Gardner or Cordy there. I've got English at half forward because he really should be roaming and getting back to help defence a fair bit.

Duryea plays defence, Vandermeer forward/wing, Hannan forward and JJ is a utility now. Some forward, some wing, some defence. Considering Martin will be on the bench when not rucking because he's not much use forward JJ will probably be more of a forward half player which I prefer.

Don't mind it, but I just can't go in with Young and Keath as the KPBs.
Happy with English as a roamer when he's on the ball, but I think he showed some real ability plonking him deep forward towards the end of this year.
I don't really see Cordy as a 3rd tall back to be honest. He plays like a medium IMO, he's just tall. I could swap him out for Wood easily, but prefer Cordy.

 

[Boyd oh Boyd]

Don't mind it, but I just can't go in with Young and Keath as the KPBs.
Happy with English as a roamer when he's on the ball, but I think he showed some real ability plonking him deep forward towards the end of this year.
I don't really see Cordy as a 3rd tall back to be honest. He plays like a medium IMO, he's just tall. I could swap him out for Wood easily, but prefer Cordy.

Part of my hope with Young and Keath is that our midfield should be doing the heavy lifting. With that many inside mids they shouldn't be getting many clean entries or as many entries as we do. That midfield should be able to pressure any opposition inside 50, and so having our best intercept marks in Young and Keath could be massive. They key will be if we even get smashed in the midfield again we need to swing Naughton back, but when we're winning keep Naughton forward.

I'm hoping we've taken a leaf out of Geelong's use of Hawkins for next year. Get your best contested mark in a one on one, and if the opposition try and double team use that spare player you've suddenly got. So for that reason I'm pushing English up the ground.

Cordy plays like a medium without any of the rebounding qualities. He occasionally does some really nice team things but I just don't see a place for a 3rd tall who doesn't mark and doesn't provide rebound.

 

[Mikevk123]

B A.Keath Z.Cordy C.Daniel
HB J.Johannisen J.Bruce H.Crozier
C L.Hunter M.Bontempelli J.Macrae
HF J.Ugle-Hagan A.Naughton A.Treloar
F M.Hannan T.English M.Wallis
FOLL: S.Martin J.Dunkley B.Smith
INTER: B.Williams, E.Wood, L.Vandermeer, T.Mclean

 

[CaptainMurphy]

B A.Keath Z.Cordy C.Daniel
HB J.Johannisen J.Bruce H.Crozier
C L.Hunter M.Bontempelli J.Macrae
HF J.Ugle-Hagan A.Naughton A.Treloar
F M.Hannan T.English M.Wallis
FOLL: S.Martin J.Dunkley B.Smith
INTER: B.Williams, E.Wood, L.Vandermeer, T.Mclean

Needs Libba but otherwise solid

 

[Del165892]

B: Williams Keath Crozier
HB: Johannisen Gardner Daniel
C: Hunter Bontempelli Treloar
HF: JUH Bruce English
F: Hannan Naughton Wallis
Fol: Martin Macrae Libba
Int: Dunkley, Smith, Cordy, Wood

Edit: Macrae added.

 

[dogwatch]

B: Williams Keath Crozier
HB: Johannisen Gardner Daniel
C: Hunter Bontempelli Treloar
HF: JUH Bruce English
F: Hannan Naughton Wallis
Fol: Martin Dunkley Libba
Int: Smith, Cordy, Wood, Vandermeer

Needs Macrae