Draft week this week, so instead of forcing the last ~20 picks. Weve got close enough to the end of the 4th. Would rather spend the next day or two with people doing write ups and a quick summary of their draft, so we can then wrap it up and ready for the draft.
For whoever wants to, a quick post on their picks, how they feel it went vs actual teams needs and how they rate themselves.
Ill do my teams tomorrow, but will kick of summarising our draft from now.
Personally, I was going to draft a QB with my next pick for the Buccaneers. We have only Brady really. We need to draft an understudy, but in real life the Bucs might draft one with the 3rd round (say Trask if there). But I can also see us waiting till the 4th or 5th as there are some sleepers about.
Bummer... I hadn't taken my free safety yet. Given the doubts around them, had we gone the full 7 rounds, I probably would've taken free safeties with my next 2 picks, cos someone with the ability to play single high is critical to their formation. (Kind of wild that they didn't address it in FA).
Josh Johnson from Indiana, Tyree Gillespie from Mizzou and Richard LaCounte III from Georgia were the guys on my radar. RL III was almost a consensus first round pick before the bike accident, which somehow has been turned into a character concern, with mocks then using his rubbish pro-day results (as he still had a buggered foot) as a justification for dropping him. That's despite his numbers and tape, and despite him being so team-oriented that he busted his arse to get back for the Bulldogs Bowl game.
I might've found some space for a flier on a QB too, cos it's all gash at the Cowboys beyond Prescott.
I'll do a write-up in the next couple of days, although mine were pretty comprehensive as I went - so maybe I'll wait til after the draft to do a review.
Traded a 2nd rd pick and a 4th to move up to pick 14 to get Trey Lance. I feel knowing the latest view on Lance and the QB position if Chicago landed this on draft day would be A+ (or close enough to). Lance would be perfect to sit behind Dalton for a year, then would be a great Dual Threat QB on a team with a good running game.
Added a speedy slot receiver who has a low profile, but could be a diamond of the draft. Eskridge makes big plays with game changing speed. Added a Corner late in the 3rd, hard to know if Bynum will stick, but needed depth at the position after the offseason moves.
Solid draft for the Chargers, although the more glaring need on the O line is tackle, so even though Vera-Tucker able to play both positions, its unkown if he will suit the Left Tackle position at the next level. Having said that, he looks to have a 10 year career at Guard or tackle, so will be a key part of the Chargers line.
Happy with Campbell as a cover corner in the 2nd round. Trey Surmon was more a luxury pick, but seeing how well he played in the BIG10 champ game and semi final game, he could do wonders with Herbert as a youn backfield tandem, good Compliment to Ekeler.
Andre Cisco has injury concerns, but a high ceiling. happy with the value late in the 3rd. Surratt opted out last year, so would be a project.
Quiet draft for the Rams who didnt have a 1st and 4th due to the Jalen Ramsey trade.
Happy with the results. Basham could go in the 1st half of the 2nd round. Could add some rotational depth on the D Line to assist Donald. With Auston Blyth headed to free agency there is a need to add the inside of the O Line and Smith could start at Guard as the season progress. will be great for the run game.
Added a safety in the late 3rd. Has good size to cover tight ends and some of the bigger receivers in the West. Solid but unspectacular for the rams.
The top two centers in this class, Landon Dickerson and Creed Humphrey, could be too rich for the Steelers, a notoriously “best-player-available” team, in the first round. However, both will most likely be gone in the second. This leaves players like Josh Myers from Ohio State and Trey Hill from Georgia in the third, possibly the fourth, round.
With the way this draft class is shaping up, the Steelers will most likely miss out on the top quarterbacks. There used to be a chance that Mac Jones might be available for the Steelers, but his stock is rising fast. There is always the possibility that the Steelers trade up to try to grab Zach Wilson, Justin Fields, or Trey Lance. But I think the likelihood of this happening is very small; the Steelers rarely trade up and based on the structure of their roster, I do not see this happening (next year, maybe).
Trade: Picks 56 and 250 to Tampa Bay for picks 64, 95, 217
Overall picks: 64, 95, 129, 217
Main draft needs: Center, Cornerback, and a WR3.
Pick 64: Eric Stokes, CB, Georgia.
I was absolutely stoked (pun intended) to pick up Stokes at this point. I said at the time that I believe he is underrated and could very well go 10-15 picks higher than this and potentially even go before his slightly higher-rated teammate Tyson Campbell. What I love about Stokes is that he gives the flexibility to not only play on the outside, but also in the slot. There is a pretty good chance of Stokes seeing action right from the get-go with Seattle's lack of depth at corner.
Pick 95: Nico Collins, WR, Michigan.
I strongly debated whether to go WR or C at this pick but I didn't think there were any centers left on the board that were worth the pick. If Seattle needed a WR 1 or 2 I probably would have gone elsewhere or looked to take one at 64. However, Seattle needs someone to compliment Tyler Lockett and D.K. Metcalf and Collins could very well be that guy. From what I can see elsewhere, some might say I overreached slightly while others will say this is about where he is projected to go. I went for him because of his size, speed, and explosiveness which we have seen teams struggle with when trying to match up on Metcalf. While not as quick as D.K., it would be interesting to see teams try and match up on both at the same time. More threats for Russell Wilson should make his life easier.
Coming into the draft, Seattle has 3 main needs- center, cornerback, and a wide receiver 3. With only 3 picks in the draft, you can bet John Schneider will be trading like crazy to get some more draft capital. However, since I am not John Schnieder and only had the 3 picks to work with, I was able to fill 2 of those needs with the 2 picks I had. If we managed to get to my 3rd pick, I would have addressed the need for a center and taken Trey Hill if was still on the board. I love my Georgia boys and always aim to take at least one. If I could have managed to come away with 2, I would have been happy. While Hill is not rated that highly, playing on one of the best offensive lines in all of college football in 2019 and coming from a primarily run-first offence, I feel he will suit Seattle well. He just needs a bit of work.
After addressing the 3 main needs with the first 3 picks, there are a number of ways I could have gone with the remaining pick. The rest of the o-line needs depth (particularly at guard), while I also don't think Seattle's TE stocks are anything great either. I love Dissly but he gets injured too much and whether or not Seattle addresses the position in the draft will probably come down to whether or not they think Colby Parkinson can do a job. The other position they could address at the next pick would the interior of the defensive line. Seattle has re-signed Al Woods in free agency but outside of Poona Ford, there isn't a lot of quality at the position.
Overall, I am pretty happy with how the draft went for me. I was able to address the main needs (well, 2 of the 3) which is what the draft is all about. I do wish we kept it going a bit longer so I could get my third pick in but it always fizzles out around this time.
Trying to guess what Pete Carroll and John Schnieder are going to do at the draft is nearly impossible so I am expecting something completely out of the blue to happen. If they are unable to secure more picks, I expect them to go into the free-agent market to strengthen the roster where it is needed.
Positional needs: Defence... literally, the whole defence, OT, slot receiver
10: Patrick Surtain II - Corner - Alabama
44: Jackson Carman - OT - Clemson
75: Jay Tufele - DT - USC
100: Tutu Atwell - WR - Louisville
116: Rashad Weaver - DE - Pitt
Surtain might be the first defensive player taken. I won't get any bonus points for picking up a bargain here, cos none of the teams before Dallas are going to take a corner, but this seems just as obvious a pick now as it did when I made the pick weeks ago. Carman is one that I'm not happy with, for a couple of reasons.
1. I think I panicked on the position. I thought that, by pick 44, Carman and Eischenberg were the only guys left that could be day 1 starters left of the offensive tackles (which I mentioned in this thread at the time). At the time of the pick, Carman and Eischenberg were pretty interchangeable in mocks. But, following ??? (typical pre-draft bullshit) the mocks now have Eischenberg as high as the top of the 2nd round, and you can't find Carman much higher than the top of he 3rd round. I was also too welded to a couple of Carman's physical traits over Eischenberg's, and still remembered his star-making bowl game against Chase Young. Who knows, I may be proven right in the long run, but looking at the immediate evidence this weekend I think this is going to look like an awful pick.
2. I never did get the free safety who can play single high that's so critical to Quinn's defence. But I guess to defend that pick, once Moehrig was taken there was absolutely no value in the FS position in my opinion - which is why I said the other day that, having not taken a FS with my first 5 picks, the next 2 picks probably would've been FS dart throws. (I hope they're in love with someone deep in the draft, cos the single high holds the defence together, so it's still staggering that they didn't address it in FA.)
I think Tufele is a good pick, and at 75 I think he'll prove to be good value on day 2. I think this is actually a realistic pick if the Cowboys haven't made a heap of moves to try and secure Moehrig as well as Surtain - he's a good positional fit, he fits an enormous need, and given the dross in their interior line at the moment he could be their most important defensive tackle on day 1.
And the more I watched and read, the more I talked myself into Atwell. I think the pressure from the "GM" to take an exciting offensive piece at Dallas is real, and I think Atwell is a low floor/high ceiling guy who could fit them really well. And finally, Weaver won't be anything spectacular - but in the 4th round I think he's a pretty safe pick to make the 53 and be playing a role in year 1.
Overall? I probably slant negative on most things (that will shock people!) - but Dallas' positional needs didn't really lend itself to an exciting draft, and I think the dual (likely) mistake in the 2nd round with taking both the wrong player and wrong position pulls my grade down.
Final thoughts/predictions: I wanted to give myself a B, but honestly the Carman pick probably makes it B-.
Having completed the exercise, analysed the Cowboys' needs, and done at least some research into every realistic potential pick in a position of need on the consensus 150 big board? No one's talking about it, but I could easily see Dallas being the team that trades out with New England if there's a QB left at 10 (or they could trade with a WR-needy team - Raiders or Bears? - to fu** with the Giants and Eagles, both of whom would love one of Pitts, Chase, Smith or Waddle in the first round if they're available... Although I guess the Eagles would likely counter-fu** them by taking the best corner available)
Take Horn or Farley, then take the proceeds of the trade along with whatever to try and get back into the first round, and take Moehrig as well. He's literally the only free safety in this draft that you could confidently expect to play in the Cowboys D this season, so they might have to give up a bit to get him. I've seen him mocked anywhere from mid-20s to early-40s though, so that could be difficult to navigate.
Took Penei Sewell in the actual draft but he wasn't available in the mock. Smith went pick 10 in the real thing after Philly traded up to get him
Pick 41 - Jamin Davis LB Kentucky
Davis went pick 19 irl, while Lions took DT Levi Onwuzurike (who was taken by Sven for the Bengals at pick 69)
Pick 72 - Elijah Moore WR Ole Miss
Moore went pick 34 to the Jets in the actual draft. The Lions opted to take DT Alim McNeil here irl
Pick 102 - Kelvin Joseph CB Kentucky
Taken by Dallas at pick 44 irl while the Lions took CB Ifeatu Melifonwu
Pick 113 - Marlon Tuipulotu DT USC
Actually went at pick 189 to the Eagles. Lions took LB Derrick Barnes in the actual draft
Overall I still think I did really well. My first round pick wasn't too far off the mark, and the guys I picked up at 41, 72 and 102 were all selected in the actual draft well before I managed to snag them. The obvious major difference between my mock and the actual thing for the Lions is that they seemed to prioritise getting better on the offensive and defensive lines (never a bad idea), while with the way I felt the board fell I focused more on getting faster and more skillful (particularly on the outside). I also nailed the correct position with their second 3rd rounder but got an arguably better player in the process. The only real miss here was taking Tuipoluto, who is a true nose-tackle type, in the late third even though it is a devalued position
This pick was traded to the Chiefs IRL as part of the Orlando Brown trade which happened after much of this longform mock had finished. Meinerz was taken at pick 98 by the Broncos in the actual draft.
Pick 105 - Payton Turner EDGE Houston
Payton Turner was somewhat surprisingly taken by the Saints in the 1st round at pick 28. The Ravens real pick at this spot was Brandon Stephens CB SMU - a player I hadn't heard of because I hadn't looked too deeply into the CB position, and most places had him projected as a 5th or 6th rounder.
Of the 3 picks I got to make for the Ravens in this mock, I nailed one (which is a lot harder to do when its a pick not in the top 10 or so) and got one player I was high on in the 3rd round who it turns out at least one NFL team was even higher on than I was. I obviously fell into the Meinerz hype more than the NFL did and so ended up taking him 40 spots earlier than he was irl.