List Mgmt. 2021 Draft and Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Hi everyone, for those interested some great links plus the Big Footy Draft, Trade & Free Agency twitter as per below:

 

[Ticky009]

Roll the dice on Knevitt anyone? JPK replacement by the sound of it if he comes good. Ranked in this at about our pick at 20.

AFL Draft Power Rankings: No. 1 player locked in, bolters make their moves

ESPN.com.au's expert Chris Doerre has revealed his AFL Draft Power Rankings for the month of November with South Australian prospect Jason Horne-Francis firming as North Melbourne's first ever No. 1 selection.

www.espn.com.au

Perhaps not given his ground ball handling skills are viewed as a weakness and Dalrymple has stated it one of the skills he credits highly.

 

[Kapers]

I don't disagree with that at all. I do feel though that we had gone too far into a defensive mindset at the expense of scoring at all.
It seemed that our philosophy for some years was that it doesn't matter if we only score 8 goals because we will reduce our opponent to 7.

Yah, but I would prefer to be a team that wins 8 goals to 7 than 14 to 13.

Its frustrating and annoying, but it's a better base than the reverse.

I completely understand the pain of watching our scoring dry up (Geelong in 2017 and GWS in 2018 are lows) and it feels amazing to watch a team that can score.

I just feel like people unfairly malign what Horse did with a decaying list. 2018, 2019, and 2020 where years of massive change, and to bring the side through that period so effectively isn't only Pyke. Horse instilled belief and a desire to win during that while period.

It's evident how well we navigated that period when we compare ourselves to sides like Carlton or St Kilda.

 

[Jeffers]

Are we using pick 70 or will that get absorbed with Mccartin?

 

[Ticky009]

Are we using pick 70 or will that get absorbed with Mccartin?

 

[Kiama Chris]

My understanding is that McCartin hasn't nominated for the draft and we are expecting to pick him up in the PSSP, like we did McLean.

 

[momentbymoment]

I believe the biggest reason for our improvement last year was the change of game style which Pyke was responsible for. We no longer played the kick, mark, stop and wait. Kick short, wait again. then kick it back to where w]it all started.
As much as I love my team, I hated the way we played prior to last year. 10 goals in previous years was like kicking 100 points. Even when we had total domination over another side, we would only win a quarter by 2 goals so when momentum turned our lead was very quickly overtaken.
There's no doubt that the players loved playing with more freedom as well.

Bingo …
100% agree.

 

[ShireSwan]

Are we using pick 70 or will that get absorbed with Mccartin?

Use it only if we have to, to pick up the kid from Coffs Harbour?

 

[ShireSwan]

Perhaps not given his ground ball handling skills are viewed as a weakness and Dalrymple has stated it one of the skills he credits highly.

IDK, looks to me like they were struggling to find something to write. Who doesn't "'occasionally fumble at ground level"? Seems to have a lot in the plus column, but then again they all do this month. If he didn't make it as a mid, has the size at 194cm to be tried out as defender too. Certainly wouldn't be throwing my toys out of the cot if we picked him.

 

[rustycrate]

2021 Draft Preview with Kinnear Beatson

2021 Draft Preview with Kinnear Beatson

AFL recruiters around the country are hitting the road and covering thousands of kilometres over the next five days as they wrap up final in-person interviews with future talent, ahead of the start of the NAB AFL Draft on Wednesday November 24th.

www.sydneyswans.com.au

 

[momentbymoment]

So next Thursday night we will know all (or most of) all the questions we have asked over the past 200 odd pages.
We will then spend another 100 pages discussing the rights and wrongs of every decision and compare our draft hand to other clubs.
But, what do we talk about after that????
In my case, I'll be hanging out for the DT player positions and prices to be made known so I can start working on my 2022 DT squad.

Houses.
And who is training them down.

 

[rustycrate]

Houses.
And who is training them down.

and every house needs bins

 

[DST]

Side note as it was mentioned before.

I reckon the biggest reason for our change of game plan last season wasn’t Pyke idea specifically but a response to the change in the rules (6/6/6 followed by stationary man on the mark).

It just so happened that the list makeup we were working towards were the right type for us to adjust the game plan to suit the change to the game and the strengths of our players.

Pyke certainly made a large contribution to that but I reckon it was born out of the rule changes more than anything else (and we were recruiting to move toward this type of football years prior).

Agree, we had already reshaped the list to concentrate on kicking and decision making skills and had already started to implement a more direct style of play through the corridor (early rounds 2020 we played that way but we’re cut up the other way and our midfield really struggled and was exposed).

The standing on the mark and some tweaks from Pyke (around positioning and ball movement) just put the icing on the cake that has been baking for a couple of years.


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[DST]

Having a good defence is important but it is important to be a good scoring team too. Most teams who win the flag are capable of regularly scoring over 100 points.

And that ability to score comes from a defence that can absorb the pressure and score from the back 50.

Premierships are won or lost on nothing more than your back 6 and your ability of your midfield to run both ways.


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[DST]

Also, it was clear early in 2019 that we were attempting a new game plan but we didn't have the players at the level required to perform to this game plan 100% of the time.

Some people need to go back to 2019 and 2020 and watch those games, particularly early in the year when you are starting with a plan to implement your own style.

To say that we played defensive football in 2019 and 2020 and it all changed in 2021 is just flat out wrong.


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[RUNVS]

And that ability to score comes from a defence that can absorb the pressure and score from the back 50.

Premierships are won or lost on nothing more than your back 6 and your ability of your midfield to run both ways.


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It is a cliche but "the best defence is a good offence" as well since actually having the ball prevents your opponent from having it.

 

[Ticky009]

Probably a more relevant Draft Rankings list given our current available selections.

AFL Draft Power Rankings 26-50: The hidden gems your club could snap up at the draft

AFL Draft Power Rankings 26-50: The hidden gems your club could steal

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Membling]

Still keen on getting Long. Looks like he could be a POD in the middle for us.

 

[RUNVS]

Still keen on getting Long. Looks like he could be a POD in the middle for us.

Acronym	Definition
POD	Proof Of Delivery
POD	Pay On Demand
POD	Print On Demand
POD	Payable on Death (band name)
POD	Payable on Death
POD	Picture of the Day
POD	Pick of Destiny (Tenacious D movie/album/song)
POD	Peroxidase
POD	Plan of Development (land development; various organizations)
POD	Place of Duty
POD	Prince Of Darkness
POD	Prevention of Depression (therapy)
POD	Permission of the Department (various locations)
POD	Progression of Disease
POD	Pot of Duality (Yu-Gi-Oh trading card)
POD	Probability Of Detection
POD	Paper on Demand (various organizations)
POD	Plain Old Documentation (Perl)
POD	Power on Demand (energy)
POD	Plan Of the Day
POD	Point of Dispensing
POD	Point of Departure
POD	Production on Demand (manufacturing)
POD	People and Organizational Development (various organizations)
POD	Performance Optimized Data (various organizations)
POD	Personal Open Directory
POD	Portable on Demand
POD	Ping of Death
POD	Publishing on Demand
POD	Personal Option Digital
POD	Packet of Disconnect
POD	Play on Demand
POD	Primary Output Device
POD	Power on Diagnostics
POD	Point of Deployment
POD	Plain Old Data
POD	Plain Old Documentation
POD	Personal on Demand
POD	Point of Difference
POD	Postoperative Day
POD	Point of Distribution
POD	Piece Of Data
POD	Passed Out Drunk
POD	Ping of Death (type of hacking/network attack)
POD	Publish on Demand
POD	Port Of Debarkation
POD	Proper Orthogonal Decomposition
POD	Perioral Dermatitis
POD	Production Operator Dashboard
POD	Port of Discharge (shipping)
POD	Post Office Department
POD	Plain Old Data (programming, especially C++)
POD	Point of Deployment (module; television cable industry)
POD	Point-Of-Deployment (cable TV)
POD	Point of Divergence (alternate history)
POD	Post Of Duty
POD	Power of Darkness
POD	Processing of Data
POD	Port of Departure
POD	Problem of the Day
POD	Proof Of Deposit
POD	Path Of Daggers
POD	Pacific Ocean Division (USACE)
POD	Point of Destination (navigation)
POD	Payload Operations Director (US NASA)
POD	Professional Organizational Development (various organizations)
POD	Pay On Delivery
POD	Precise Orbit Determination
POD	Point of Development
POD	Plain Old Document
POD	Payment on Delivery
POD	Point of Discharge
POD	Presbytery of Detroit (Michigan)
POD	Pouch of Douglas
POD	Point of Destruction (computer gaming clan)
POD	Party of Death (book)
POD	Physician-Owned Distributorship
POD	Programmatorische Overheidsdienst
POD	Play on Demand (Line 6)
POD	Pelagic Organism Decline
POD	Personnel On Duty
POD	Probability Of Damage
POD	Pay or Die (role playing game)
POD	Parts on Demand
POD	Payload Operations Division (US NASA)
POD	Proof of Design
POD	Pool of Darkness (Dungeons & Dragons computer game)
POD	Pin on Disc
POD	Plane of Disease (gaming)
POD	Point of Demarcation
POD	Per Our Discussion
POD	Protective Oceanic Device
POD	Paracetamol Overdose
POD	Perception of Dyspnea (pulmonology)
POD	Peacock Obsessive Disorder
POD	Pirated Optical Disc
POD	Playable on Death (band)
POD	Parent Of the Day
POD	Priest of Discord (Everquest)
POD	Peace Out Dawg
POD	Parachute Opening Device
POD	Processor on Demand
POD	Permissible Operating Distance
POD	Post Operation Day
POD	Porpoise Detector (static acoustic monitoring instrument)
POD	Pendulum of Doom (World of Warcraft)
POD	Phase Opposition Disposition
POD	Protection on Demand
POD	Project Overview Document
POD	Post-Orgasmic Disgust
POD	Proof of Development
POD	Product of Desire (UK clothing company)
POD	Programmable Option Devices
POD	Post-Orgasmic Depression
POD	Place of Dolphins (chat server)
POD	Patient Own Drugs
POD	Process Oriented Description
POD	Point of Disconnection
POD	Percent of Decrease
POD	Planar Optical Display
POD	Project Operations Director
POD	Process Operational Diagram
POD	Point Of Destitution
POD	Package Outline Drawing
POD	Past Over Dosed
POD	Packet Over DSL
POD	Planar Orthogonal Drawing
POD	Program Operation Description
POD	Pfeffer Outpatient Disability Scale
POD	Program Objectives Document (DCAA)
POD	Programmer on Duty (help desk)
POD	protocol option device
POD	Post-Operation Debriefing
POD	Pious or Overly Devotional (blog slang)
POD	Perspectives of Difference
POD	Personal Obligation Day
POD	Program Operational Date
POD	Procurement Office Desktop
POD	Point/Port of Delivery
POD	Personal Operable Device
POD	Pressure Operated Directional (valve)
POD	Phase-Only Digitized
POD	Personnel Observation Device (surveillance camera)
POD	Profit on Differences (investing)

 

[Membling]

Acronym	Definition
POD	Proof Of Delivery
POD	Pay On Demand
POD	Print On Demand
POD	Payable on Death (band name)
POD	Payable on Death
POD	Picture of the Day
POD	Pick of Destiny (Tenacious D movie/album/song)
POD	Peroxidase
POD	Plan of Development (land development; various organizations)
POD	Place of Duty
POD	Prince Of Darkness
POD	Prevention of Depression (therapy)
POD	Permission of the Department (various locations)
POD	Progression of Disease
POD	Pot of Duality (Yu-Gi-Oh trading card)
POD	Probability Of Detection
POD	Paper on Demand (various organizations)
POD	Plain Old Documentation (Perl)
POD	Power on Demand (energy)
POD	Plan Of the Day
POD	Point of Dispensing
POD	Point of Departure
POD	Production on Demand (manufacturing)
POD	People and Organizational Development (various organizations)
POD	Performance Optimized Data (various organizations)
POD	Personal Open Directory
POD	Portable on Demand
POD	Ping of Death
POD	Publishing on Demand
POD	Personal Option Digital
POD	Packet of Disconnect
POD	Play on Demand
POD	Primary Output Device
POD	Power on Diagnostics
POD	Point of Deployment
POD	Plain Old Data
POD	Plain Old Documentation
POD	Personal on Demand
POD	Point of Difference
POD	Postoperative Day
POD	Point of Distribution
POD	Piece Of Data
POD	Passed Out Drunk
POD	Ping of Death (type of hacking/network attack)
POD	Publish on Demand
POD	Port Of Debarkation
POD	Proper Orthogonal Decomposition
POD	Perioral Dermatitis
POD	Production Operator Dashboard
POD	Port of Discharge (shipping)
POD	Post Office Department
POD	Plain Old Data (programming, especially C++)
POD	Point of Deployment (module; television cable industry)
POD	Point-Of-Deployment (cable TV)
POD	Point of Divergence (alternate history)
POD	Post Of Duty
POD	Power of Darkness
POD	Processing of Data
POD	Port of Departure
POD	Problem of the Day
POD	Proof Of Deposit
POD	Path Of Daggers
POD	Pacific Ocean Division (USACE)
POD	Point of Destination (navigation)
POD	Payload Operations Director (US NASA)
POD	Professional Organizational Development (various organizations)
POD	Pay On Delivery
POD	Precise Orbit Determination
POD	Point of Development
POD	Plain Old Document
POD	Payment on Delivery
POD	Point of Discharge
POD	Presbytery of Detroit (Michigan)
POD	Pouch of Douglas
POD	Point of Destruction (computer gaming clan)
POD	Party of Death (book)
POD	Physician-Owned Distributorship
POD	Programmatorische Overheidsdienst
POD	Play on Demand (Line 6)
POD	Pelagic Organism Decline
POD	Personnel On Duty
POD	Probability Of Damage
POD	Pay or Die (role playing game)
POD	Parts on Demand
POD	Payload Operations Division (US NASA)
POD	Proof of Design
POD	Pool of Darkness (Dungeons & Dragons computer game)
POD	Pin on Disc
POD	Plane of Disease (gaming)
POD	Point of Demarcation
POD	Per Our Discussion
POD	Protective Oceanic Device
POD	Paracetamol Overdose
POD	Perception of Dyspnea (pulmonology)
POD	Peacock Obsessive Disorder
POD	Pirated Optical Disc
POD	Playable on Death (band)
POD	Parent Of the Day
POD	Priest of Discord (Everquest)
POD	Peace Out Dawg
POD	Parachute Opening Device
POD	Processor on Demand
POD	Permissible Operating Distance
POD	Post Operation Day
POD	Porpoise Detector (static acoustic monitoring instrument)
POD	Pendulum of Doom (World of Warcraft)
POD	Phase Opposition Disposition
POD	Protection on Demand
POD	Project Overview Document
POD	Post-Orgasmic Disgust
POD	Proof of Development
POD	Product of Desire (UK clothing company)
POD	Programmable Option Devices
POD	Post-Orgasmic Depression
POD	Place of Dolphins (chat server)
POD	Patient Own Drugs
POD	Process Oriented Description
POD	Point of Disconnection
POD	Percent of Decrease
POD	Planar Optical Display
POD	Project Operations Director
POD	Process Operational Diagram
POD	Point Of Destitution
POD	Package Outline Drawing
POD	Past Over Dosed
POD	Packet Over DSL
POD	Planar Orthogonal Drawing
POD	Program Operation Description
POD	Pfeffer Outpatient Disability Scale
POD	Program Objectives Document (DCAA)
POD	Programmer on Duty (help desk)
POD	protocol option device
POD	Post-Operation Debriefing
POD	Pious or Overly Devotional (blog slang)
POD	Perspectives of Difference
POD	Personal Obligation Day
POD	Program Operational Date
POD	Procurement Office Desktop
POD	Point/Port of Delivery
POD	Personal Operable Device
POD	Pressure Operated Directional (valve)
POD	Phase-Only Digitized
POD	Personnel Observation Device (surveillance camera)
POD	Profit on Differences (investing)

Personal favourite is Post-Orgasmic Depression, but in this case Point of Difference

 

[hairy biker]

'Passed out drunk' could be interesting in a footy context..

Imagining a country football commentary along the lines;
Commentator 1;And BigBob is passed out drunk again in the middle, but thankfully not on the centre circle this week.
Commentator 2; Aye Horrie, he's a big lad to move, but I'm sure he'll come good in the 3rd quarter as he usually does.

 

[David 3058]

The Herald Sun has done a full mock draft.

Welcome Darcy Wilmot, Cooper Murley, Charlie Dean and James Tunstill.

 

[Kiama Chris]

The Herald Sun has done a full mock draft.

Welcome Darcy Wilmot, Cooper Murley, Charlie Dean and James Tunstill.

Hmm.
My prediction (assuming still there at our picks):
Chesser
Bazzo
Warner/Dittmar

 

[hairy biker]

The Herald Sun has done a full mock draft.

Welcome Darcy Wilmot, Cooper Murley, Charlie Dean and James Tunstill.

Thanks David 3058 but hard to take the Hun seriously.
They did an analysis* yesterday (by the same writers) of our needs and who might be available/be suitable for us and not one of those four was in the 17 players name checked.

* https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2021-draft-and-trade-hypotheticals.1259573/post-72953927

 

[Membling]

Hmm.
My prediction (assuming still there at our picks):
Chesser
Bazzo
Warner/Dittmar

Predictions/wants

JVR/Taylor/Knevitt
Long
Dean/Dittmar

Very open draft at our selections

 

[RUNVS]

The Herald Sun has done a full mock draft.

Welcome Darcy Wilmot, Cooper Murley, Charlie Dean and James Tunstill.

With Papley and Gulden we really don't need a small forward right now.