List Mgmt. 2021 Draft and Trade Hypotheticals
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Kapers
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Questions:
1. We've got Hickey, one of the best ruckman in the league, and Mills, one of the best young mids, why do we keep on being beaten in the mids?
2. What do you think is the solution to our midfield problems.
TheMase
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Surely there is a kid on another list with some development behind them we can pinch. Would be better than hitting the draft and waiting 4 years.
Hard to draw an established player, but I’d start there.
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1. We had a shocker against Hawthorn, but its a bit unfair to say we keep on being beaten in the mids.
2. Gulden, Rowbottom, Stephens, Mills, Florent, Warner, Campbell and Blakey.
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1. I don’t think we do. Not until the last couple of matches. Hickey has been sore the last few weeks so he hasn’t been the best ruck. Otherwise we’re holding our own.
2. Development. And a little luck on the injury front. Our outside players improving their timing. And a genuine back up ruck. Naismith is a tragedy.
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I hold out hope for O’Connor.
TheMase
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He has shown some promise, much development ahead of course.
Ideally we want a player around Brands size (or we could just play Brand!).
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Parish but I have this feeling we are into Cripps
Good KD and a interception player
Good KD and a interception player
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at least a few poor contracts finish this year
Kapers
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If we get Parish we are officially the best trading side in the league. Holy moly that would be one hell of a grab.
sataris
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I'm contracted until 2100 , so don't get your hopes up.
Pure speculation but looking at this year's "pre-agents", I'd be really keen to have another dip at Darcy Moore. He's just what we need in defence and at 26 years old in 2022 will be able to be around well and truly throughout our window.
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Punts is into every great player running around. I'd love him to land one though.
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What’s your metric?
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No. Come on. Give us something we can actually measure.
One of the few players who would genuinely transform our side.
I've got the feeling Collingwood will do anything to keep some stability through this offseason though.
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You can measure that if you just watch. The Melbourne game for example. Stats sheet says we won the inside 50s and clearances (including centre clearances), but our clearances out of the middle were rushed and under enormous pressure, while Oliver, Petracca and co waltzed out practically unimpeded.
I was also at the Freo game where the stats sheet says we had more centre clearances than Freo did, and I can tell you that the centre breaks Fyfe, Mundy and Walters got were done with relative ease while ours were once again hurried and under pressure.
That mix of not being very clean with our own clearances but also failing to apply appropriate pressure on the opposition's clearances is not a good one, and I've noticed it in most Swans games this year. Unfortunately stats focus largely on quantity over quality so I have nothing concrete to produce for you, so you'll just have to take my word for it.
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It might come as a surprise, but I have been watching. Do you think a scorecard of 8-5 is because the defenders kick it over the heads of the mids to the forwards?You can measure that if you just watch. The Melbourne game for example. Stats sheet says we won the inside 50s and clearances (including centre clearances), but our clearances out of the middle were rushed and under enormous pressure, while Oliver, Petracca and co waltzed out practically unimpeded.
I was also at the Freo game where the stats sheet says we had more centre clearances than Freo did, and I can tell you that the centre breaks Fyfe, Mundy and Walters got were done with relative ease while ours were once again hurried and under pressure.
That mix of not being very clean with our own clearances but also failing to apply appropriate pressure on the opposition's clearances is not a good one, and I've noticed it in most Swans games this year. Unfortunately stats focus largely on quantity over quality so I have nothing concrete to produce for you, so you'll just have to take my word for it.
Or don't. I don't care
the hypnotoad
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jones was ... is! ... ordinary, temperamental and mistake-prone ...
we have several players in our squad now with more potential ... but it will require patience, which is not in abundance on this thread ... consistency of thought is also apparently lacking ... more changes of mind than changes of underwear
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Seems to fit the height profile. It appears some teams are drafting 200cm+ players for KPD these days given the ever increasing height of KPF and resting ruckman. Can he play?
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not me ... always loved parker but it comes down to the business of it ... surely we can't be offering him any more long contracts ...
and i agree on mills, rowbottom and warner as future clearance players, and a bit further down the track the likes of gulden and wicks seem likely, hard-at-it types with a bit of flair
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