List Mgmt. 2021 Draft and Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Hi everyone, for those interested some great links plus the Big Footy Draft, Trade & Free Agency twitter as per below:

 

[Punts]

Try and get Moore again

Doesn’t look happy forward of the ball at the pies

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Try and get Moore again

Doesn’t look happy forward of the ball at the pies

Would want some Pies salary support.

 

[caesar88]

Clarke will get back into the 22 before years end but not get his contract renewed. Just a feeling

If Clarke ends up back in the 22 before the years end then we would had to have had a really poor year.

 

[Cadsky]

If Clarke ends up back in the 22 before the years end then we would had to have had a really poor year.

This aged well

 

[caesar88]

This aged well

It did. He was the 23rd man

 

[Cadsky]

It did. He was the 23rd man

Maybe so, but he still made it back into the 22

 

[Kiama Chris]

If Clarke ends up back in the 22 before the years end then we would had to have had a really poor year.

Our midfield pool isn't very deep. A couple of injuries could see him in, or could see some other interesting midfield selections like Fox, Taylor, Wicks, Gulden or Campbell, depending on role. Even Grey seems to have lifted his socks in ressies. Never say never.

 

[anotherletdown]

Would want some Pies salary support.

Moore isn't on a super star salary, thats why his last contract wasnt long term. Either way, itll be a superstar salary this time.

Collingwood can't afford to support, they're on the limit paying Treleor and Phillips.... idiots

 

[Punts]

Bolton , Moore amd dusty cherry on top

 

[Cadsky]

Bolton , Moore amd dusty cherry on top

Were not getting dusty, but I'll take the other two in a heartbeat

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Moore could be doable without Eddie there anymore.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Were not getting dusty, but I'll take the other two in a heartbeat

Moore and Bolta gee would propel us to a consistent top 8 side in a heartbeat.

 

[hairy biker]

Moore is under contract until the end off 2022.

Given what Essendon wanted for Daniher and WBDs wanted for Dunkley when both were under contract there is no way that I would be wanting to hand over two 1st rounders (at a minimum) for Moore, given where we are at present.

I'd prefer to keep going to the draft, develop what we have and when we are in the premiership window we can look, if necessary or opportunity arrives, for a free agent or trade.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Moore is under contract until the end off 2022.

Given what Essendon wanted for Daniher and WBDs wanted for Dunkley when both were under contract there is no way that I would be wanting to hand over two 1st rounders (at a minimum) for Moore, given where we are at present.

I'd prefer to keep going to the draft, develop what we have and when we are in the premiership window we can look, if necessary or opportunity arrives, for a free agent or trade.

Is Moore worth two 1st rounders?

 

[hairy biker]

Is Moore worth two 1st rounders?

In isolation possibly yes, but not if it takes us out of the draft two years in a row, given where our list is at present.

If you're in the premiership window it might be a deal you do, not if you are still a developing side as we are .

I also don't see KPD as our greatest need.
I've said before I still have hope that McCartin & Melican can hold down the two KPD posts.
And of course Moore is out of contract at the end of 2022, so as with Daniher I don't think you go down the trade route at that point of a contract. Brisbane got Daniher for free in terms of draft picks a year after we were offering two first rounders.

 

[momentbymoment]

We traded Allir for Hickey. It was the only way we could get Hickey.
No-one complained the first 4 1/2 games

Yes ....
But the real issue was that we were in a place where we HAD to trade our best defender for a Ruck. The failure was in not securing a reliable ruck years ago.

 

[BloodySwan]

I also don't see KPD as our greatest need.
I've said before I still have hope that McCartin & Melican can hold down the two KPD posts.
And of course Moore is out of contract at the end of 2022, so as with Daniher I don't think you go down the trade route at that point of a contract. Brisbane got Daniher for free in terms of draft picks a year after we were offering two first rounders.

If Melican keeps going down injured we will need a second key defender

 

[SGBeach]

If Melican keeps going down injured we will need a second key defender

yep, reckon he's missed more games over the last few years than played. Im a Melican fan, but the back 6 needs stability. Durability were massive strengths of Grundy, Smith etc.
Moore always seems on the edge of injury. The year after we tried to trade him in, he went down. Hes been good for a while, but to me always seems on the edge. and I agree with Hairybiker, 2 x 1st round picks is what he would demand, and I reckon that's too much at this stage of the list build. We might start entering the free-agent market again in the next couple of years as our list headed by Heeney, Mills and Paps - down to the 1st - 3rd year players matures.
Our 2nd tall after T Macartin may come from his brother Paddy (that would be a fantastic story) or may come from OConnor,, or Melican may get his body right. So there are a few options that don't require big costs (picks and $$)

 

[BloodySwan]

yep, reckon he's missed more games over the last few years than played. Im a Melican fan, but the back 6 needs stability. Durability were massive strengths of Grundy, Smith etc.
Moore always seems on the edge of injury. The year after we tried to trade him in, he went down. Hes been good for a while, but to me always seems on the edge. and I agree with Hairybiker, 2 x 1st round picks is what he would demand, and I reckon that's too much at this stage of the list build. We might start entering the free-agent market again in the next couple of years as our list headed by Heeney, Mills and Paps - down to the 1st - 3rd year players matures.
Our 2nd tall after T Macartin may come from his brother Paddy (that would be a fantastic story) or may come from OConnor,, or Melican may get his body right. So there are a few options that don't require big costs (picks and $$)

I'm not convinced they would get 2x 1st rounders for Moore. Likely a 1st and a 2nd round pick which I'm not against, especially if it's this years picks

 

[momentbymoment]

Let’s be honest.
Our best result would be drafting a resurgent Paddy McCartin. If he can get anywhere near his best (without all that VFL pressure BS) we are another significant step along the path to our next flag.

 

[WillHayward]

I wouldn't be against it but I also wouldn't want to spend a lot of money on him either. To get him up to Sydney would probably cost the club overs relative to what he's worth.

He's ooc and in the VFL
Can't believe he has much, if any, bargaining power .
Should be cheap as chips.

 

[Superstar swan]

Sexton would be cheap

 

[Donza]

Let’s be honest.
Our best result would be drafting a resurgent Paddy McCartin. If he can get anywhere near his best (without all that VFL pressure BS) we are another significant step along the path to our next flag.

This aged well...
Unfortunately.

 

[Caj]

Sexton would be cheap

At least he wouldn't kick 4 against us every time we play the Suns

 

[Kiama Chris]

If Melican keeps going down injured we will need a second key defender

We need 3 KPF and 3 KPD at AFL level on the books to get through a season. Just having two of each is asking for trouble. Why we brought Brand in. Why we picked up Logan and are giving Paddy a trial run.