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Housing market in Sydney has gone nuts over the last 12 months. He can very easily sell his house and move into a better place in Melb for lessLuke Parker and his wife bought a duplex in Sydney last year, planning to live in one and develop the other, didn't they? Think he's set himself up pretty well outside of football, and that moving would only impede that.
Off the top of my head Papley clutched the Geelong and keeped us in the GWS game. Of course you need Parker's help, but Parker needs the forwards to fire as well. My point was that no one player makes a team.can't agree ... across their careers, parker has carried us more often than papley ... for papley to be the matchwinner he can be, he needs the grunt work done up the field, and parker's been doing a lot of that work for a long time
papley also can be ill-disciplined, you rarely see any of that from parker, he's a true leader
No doubt, but with the kind of money he'd be on, why uproot what you've spent years working on for an extra $100-200k a year? I think the inconvenience to he and his partner would be far from worth it.Housing market in Sydney has gone nuts over the last 12 months. He can very easily sell his house and move into a better place in Melb for less
The gap isn't an additional 100k, it's an additional 700k (an additional year on his contract). That is worth uprooting your life I would think.No doubt, but with the kind of money he'd be on, why uproot what you've spent years working on for an extra $100-200k a year? I think the inconvenience to he and his partner would be far from worth it.
Don't think he's been linked to any Victorian clubs this time around - just Gold Coast.
An additional $700k assumes he won't get another contract beyond the one we're offering, which I doubt. We've traditionally looked after our older players, and I think he's been around long enough to know that.The gap isn't an additional 100k, it's an additional 700k (an additional year on his contract). That is worth uprooting your life I would think.
This is also base salary, he'll earn significantly more on match payments in that additional year as well.
The right thing is to give him 3+1 and I think it'll come down to that but we seem really worried about going over our cap after 2022
I think the point being made was that each team has a player that just adds the “bit” needed to win a flag.If it's true that there's no kid besides "maybe" Gulden who will do what Parker currently does (turn up every week, give 100% effort, lead by example) then we can forget winning a premiership at all.
With all due respect zyzz, it's absolutely crazy talk. We've not drafted and invested games and experience into Dawson, Mills, Papley, McCartin, Blakey, Rowbottom, McInerney, Warner, Gulden, Campbell etc in the hopes that they will be bit-players. If we are to have any hope at a flag in the next 10 years, then these guys need to be turning up every week, giving 100% effort, and leading by example as Parker does. They need to be putting together the kind of consistent quality performances that will get them in the AA squad and give them red hot cracks at best and fairests like Parker has had this year. If not, then what is the point of all of this? We're going nowhere if we believe these guys aren't capable of that.
I believe they can absolutely do it. I'm not diminishing Parker's contributions this year, but what he is doing this year is not unheard of. If a team is in contention and at the peak of it's powers, you'll have about a dozen guys putting in seasons as impressive as Parker's. The reason his stands out as head and shoulders above is because he's surrounded by young players who aren't there yet, and older guys like Buddy, JPK and Rampe who are still good, but past their primes. It is not some benchmark of individual performance that will be impossible to meet in the future when our kids take over.
Blinking gave Stringer a free kick in that game. Mills did the same thingOn that note, Parker was ill disciplined against Essendon, giving away 3 free kicks to Stringer
I think the point being made was that each team has a player that just adds the “bit” needed to win a flag.
Would Richmond have won 3 without Dusty?
The thing about Parker is that we don’t know how much his loss would impact - as he never misses games.
In my case, even though I picked keeping Hewett and Stephens, over Parker, for example - it's not so much that I underrate Parker, it's that I believe I rate Hewett as he deserves, plus the added age gap and still untapped Stephens potential.Some people really seriously underrate Parker.
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No-one really knows. I would imagine if we had a spare 700k or whatever he might get paid to throw around, that Dawson, Hewett and Stephens are much more likely to stay. Dawson sounds like he'll stay regardless. Hewett I suspect would move only if family considerations were improved, he doesn't seem the type to big-up himself, and he's been rewarded quite well this year at least. Stephens, who knows - again I suspect family would be more of a consideration than money, but if he got offered a bucket load more and it was either SA or Vic, then I wouldn't blame him.If we lose Parker do we keep Hewett and Stephens?
If we lose Parker do we keep Hewett and Stephens?
In my case, even though I picked keeping Hewett and Stephens, over Parker, for example - it's not so much that I underrate Parker, it's that I believe I rate Hewett as he deserves, plus the added age gap and still untapped Stephens potential.
At the risk of underrating Parker, something I did just deny - is while he's a contested beast and has been a warrior at the coalface for some time for us, plus sometimes his creativity and consistent set-shots astonish, there is still plenty I shake my head at. In some games this year, I've seen him (and he's not alone, JPK and Mills are guilty of this too), get the ball from a contest only to hack it high for a unsurprisingly ineffective F50 entry or clearance. Even when he has time to assess (this is key). On repeat (also key). I've also seen Parker more specifically, when he doesn't have time to assess, try to be Dusty-like and break through, fend off several tackles only to get done for holding the ball. I can't recall which game, but there was one where this happened several times without much time between and he just didn't learn. I get that Parker isn't expected to be an amazing distributor, but his decision making when he does or doesn't have time, can be quite suspect and hurt us. All this said, he's been a bit above his usual disposal efficiency in recent weeks, and I'd be pretty annoyed if we lost him for what he's done for us, would keep doing and his leadership.
Hadn't thought of Chol. Is he available and is he good enough? The question is rhetorical as I'm sure Kinnear and Simon will be all over it.Also just a thought, I think that there will be big pay days next year for McInerney, and two out of three of Gulden, McDonald and Campbell.
Probably hope to keep McLean and Amartey and it is worth trying to get Chol as a backup for Hickey instead of Sinkers.
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Yeah, not going to disagree there. Just saying every player has spurts of being ill disciplined.Blinking gave Stringer a free kick in that game. Mills did the same thing
I mean, I think Parker is the most important player of the 4 to resign and I would give him 4 years. I rate Parker very highly, I just don't think we as a team rely on him, as we don't rely on anyone. Any top team should be able to handle 2-3 key outs and still win games imo. Otherwise you're too one dimensional.Some people really seriously underrate Parker.
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We’d have never won a flag in 2012 (or possibly 2005) without Goodsey.I mean, I think Parker is the most important player of the 4 to resign and I would give him 4 years. I rate Parker very highly, I just don't think we as a team rely on him, as we don't rely on anyone. Any top team should be able to handle 2-3 key outs and still win games imo. Otherwise you're too one dimensional.
My hope is that by the time we need to start paying up for the youngsters, the likes of Heeney, Lloyd, Papley will be coming off their rumoured big money deals and they'll be persuaded to stay on (especially Heeney, Papley given age) at lesser money for potential flag success. One would hope by that time, they've resolved to be one club players.Also just a thought, I think that there will be big pay days next year for McInerney, and two out of three of Gulden, McDonald and Campbell.
Probably hope to keep McLean and Amartey and it is worth trying to get Chol as a backup for Hickey instead of Sinkers.
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Or without LRT, or ROK.We’d have never won a flag in 2012 (or possibly 2005) without Goodsey.
I’m not claiming Parker to be the equal of Goodes, but one player can be the difference.
Yes, one player can be the difference, but not the team. The post that I originally objected to said that we wouldnt be able to win a premiership without Parker over the next 2 years.We’d have never won a flag in 2012 (or possibly 2005) without Goodsey.
I’m not claiming Parker to be the equal of Goodes, but one player can be the difference.
Richmond's been reliant on one player for 4 years. They won 3 flags in that time.Yeah, no, don't agree with that. If our team is reliant on one player we have a bad team.
Papley has pulled us through more games than Parker. Heeney's efforts turned two games on their heads, Dawson and McInerney have been stand outs.
I don't mind talking up Parker, but no player is irreplaceable, and as much as I love Parker there would be a team without him.
Also weirdly overconfident about Gulden. I think Gulden great, but Mills will be our next captain.
Gold Coast will probably offer him $700K in 3 years time if we don't give him a 1 year extension.The gap isn't an additional 100k, it's an additional 700k (an additional year on his contract). That is worth uprooting your life I would think.
This is also base salary, he'll earn significantly more on match payments in that additional year as well.
The right thing is to give him 3+1 and I think it'll come down to that but we seem really worried about going over our cap after 2022