List Mgmt. 2021 Draft and Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Hi everyone, for those interested some great links plus the Big Footy Draft, Trade & Free Agency twitter as per below:

 

[Kiama Chris]

Thought we might keep Ling for that role.
Reckon Wicks could play back pocket - his tenacity, speed and aggression are big strengths and well suited down there. Is his decision making under pressure good enough?

Said that 3 years ago. Given his pressure performance he'll be hard to replace up forward. Sheather might be a candidate for either spot too.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Journo writes a few paragraphs on a kid.

Bigfooty posters immediately decide on said kid’s draft worthiness, based solely on those few paragraphs.

I love bigfooty.

 

[anotherletdown]

General question. Who would be willing to trade into the 2nd round with Melbournes future first this year?

Looking at points, unreliable I know, it's a break even if we were to swap 26+27 from Richmond for 39 and the D's first. Would you do it? I get the feeling there is a drop off around the 30 mark this year.
Probably better to keep our powder dry for next year but if there was a mix of Murley, Bazzo, Wilmot, Howes, Taylor floating around that mark I probably would.

 

[ShireSwan]

General question. Who would be willing to trade into the 2nd round with Melbournes future first this year?

Looking at points, unreliable I know, it's a break even if we were to swap 26+27 from Richmond for 39 and the D's first. Would you do it? I get the feeling there is a drop off around the 30 mark this year.
Probably better to keep our powder dry for next year but if there was a mix of Murley, Bazzo, Wilmot, Howes, Taylor floating around that mark I probably would.

If we truly believe we're a chance the year after next at a flag, then that is the prudent move. Get an athletic player in this year with an eye on having him ready the following. Will it be enough though given the entire footy world sees the pick being the last in the first round anyways?

 

[BloodySwan]

General question. Who would be willing to trade into the 2nd round with Melbournes future first this year?

Looking at points, unreliable I know, it's a break even if we were to swap 26+27 from Richmond for 39 and the D's first. Would you do it? I get the feeling there is a drop off around the 30 mark this year.
Probably better to keep our powder dry for next year but if there was a mix of Murley, Bazzo, Wilmot, Howes, Taylor floating around that mark I probably would.

I don't think our list is in dire need of a refill at the draft. I'd prefer we remain patient and grab some project players later in the draft or rookie spot.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

General question. Who would be willing to trade into the 2nd round with Melbournes future first this year?

Looking at points, unreliable I know, it's a break even if we were to swap 26+27 from Richmond for 39 and the D's first. Would you do it? I get the feeling there is a drop off around the 30 mark this year.
Probably better to keep our powder dry for next year but if there was a mix of Murley, Bazzo, Wilmot, Howes, Taylor floating around that mark I probably would.

I would but I know many wouldn’t. But the question is what could we get and who would be interested plus I’d only do it for a midfielder

 

[ShireSwan]

18. makes sense.
Gee I'd hate to miss out on Leek Alleer at 33 without trying to grab him in the late 20s by trading into a pick.
Motlop would surely just piss off back to Freo ASAP. Why wouldn't Freo want him? Is he only protected from 3rd round on or something?

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_...**********-espn-early-two-round-phantom-draft

 

[BloodySwan]

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18. makes sense.
Gee I'd hate to miss out on Leek Alleer at 33 without trying to grab him in the late 20s by trading into a pick.
Motlop would surely just piss off back to Freo ASAP. Why wouldn't Freo want him? Is he only protected from 3rd round on or something?

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_...**********-espn-early-two-round-phantom-draft

Not a fan of taking a small forward this year. Would prefer Sheldrick who went to the very next selection

 

[Kapers]

General question. Who would be willing to trade into the 2nd round with Melbournes future first this year?

Looking at points, unreliable I know, it's a break even if we were to swap 26+27 from Richmond for 39 and the D's first. Would you do it? I get the feeling there is a drop off around the 30 mark this year.
Probably better to keep our powder dry for next year but if there was a mix of Murley, Bazzo, Wilmot, Howes, Taylor floating around that mark I probably would.

I just don't think we have the list spots to facilitate bringing in more than 3 kids in the draft.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Not a fan of taking a small forward this year. Would prefer Sheldrick who went to the very next selection

Agree or any other mid. Get the tall then get two mids

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Not a fan of taking a small forward this year. Would prefer Sheldrick who went to the very next selection

No way I’m getting off the Sheldrick bandwagon.

If he played for Oakleigh or Dandenong, he’d be top 20.

Honestly, this kid is beast-mode.

 

[brad cooper]

I would but I know many wouldn’t. But the question is what could we get and who would be interested plus I’d only do it for a midfielder

So if there was a key backman (a position we need to address) that slides to that Richmond pick and they were willing to go for the live trade you wouldn't do it.

But you would for a midfielder?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

So if there was a key backman (a position we need to address) that slides to that Richmond pick and they were willing to go for the live trade you wouldn't do it.

But you would for a midfielder?

Correct. Personally we can get a defender at our first or second. Mids the other picks. Simple

 

[brad cooper]

Correct. Personally we can get a defender at our first or second. Mids the other picks. Simple

you were taking a mid with our first yesterday

Correct. Personally we can get a defender at our first or second. Mids the other picks. Simple

if it's me I'm going tall defender at first and 2nd picks. It's the area of need and hopefully one can be a regular starter by 2023.

 

[BloodySwan]

No way I’m getting off the Sheldrick bandwagon.

If he played for Oakleigh or Dandenong, he’d be top 20.

Honestly, this kid is beast-mode.

Biggest knock on him is he supposedly poor by foot but every description about him sounds exactly like the type of player Beatson normally takes

 

[rustycrate]

No way I’m getting off the Sheldrick bandwagon.

If he played for Oakleigh or Dandenong, he’d be top 20.

Honestly, this kid is beast-mode.

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_...p-angus-sheldrick-announces-western-australia

 

[LukeParkerno1]

you were taking a mid with our first yesterday

if it's me I'm going tall defender at first and 2nd picks. It's the area of need and hopefully one can be a regular starter by 2023.

I would RATHER us take a mid t the first pick yes, but if we go for a defender that is fine, take two mids at the other two, one being a POD mid.

 

[Bloods86]

you were taking a mid with our first yesterday

if it's me I'm going tall defender at first and 2nd picks. It's the area of need and hopefully one can be a regular starter by 2023.

I'm all for picking up 2 KPDs, or at least a KPD and swingman like Van Rooyen. If the club has eyes on a few at the rookie draft level and we're confident we'll get one, I'm ok with grabbing the 2nd one there, and using a couple of our national draft picks on mids, with preference to an outside/winger first up. But... if Van Rooyen, Bazzo, others are available at our picks in their range (even with a small reach), and we go a mid, I won't be happy. The (poor) justification of pushing Hewett out was that we have too many mids / great mid depth, and although I get that grabbing at least 1 at the draft is a good idea, grabbing a mid for the sake of it over what we actually need would be bewildering.

Also sounds like we're looking at Warner, Dittmar a bit, so I'd suspect we'll look at one of those with our 2nd or 3rd picks (and likely we'll take Anderson as a late pick if forced, or at rookie draft). Makes grabbing a KPD (or Van Rooyen) at our 1st pick more important.

My dream would be (we may have more rookie picks, not sure):

N1 (~18) - KPD (or Van Rooyen)
N2 (~32) - outside/winger
N3 (~39) - inside mid / hybrid (who can use the ball decently)

R1 - KPD
R2 - Anderson
R3 - mid/winger with potential to be small defender

 

[Kapers]

if it's me I'm going tall defender at first and 2nd picks. It's the area of need and hopefully one can be a regular starter by 2023.

No chance imo, if you want a regular KPD by 2023 you have to trade one in. Most take a minimum of three years.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

No chance imo, if you want a regular KPD by 2023 you have to trade one in. Most take a minimum of three years.

If they are playing that early they are top 5 picks eg Weitering

 

[DobmusEdge]

Sorry, I tend to disagree with you but that's my perspective of Rampe's kicking. We all have our opinions and in this case they are obviously miles apart. So be it!

It’s not an opinion. “As often as not” is 50% of the time...no more no less. You are wrong on this.

 

[dosser]

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18. makes sense.
Gee I'd hate to miss out on Leek Alleer at 33 without trying to grab him in the late 20s by trading into a pick.
Motlop would surely just piss off back to Freo ASAP. Why wouldn't Freo want him? Is he only protected from 3rd round on or something?

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_...**********-espn-early-two-round-phantom-draft

Van Rooyen sounds like he has Reid's attributes. I know the question would be about comparing the physical resilience, however he may be a good like-for-like replacement.

 

[caesar88]

We have a history of turning midfielders into small lockdown defenders. Maybe whichever mid we draft this year becomes the next Nick Smith/Harry Cunningham

 

[rustycrate]

We have a history of turning midfielders into small lockdown defenders. Maybe whichever mid we draft this year becomes the next Nick Smith/Harry Cunningham

Wicks would be a star. Harasses like no other. Very defensive orientated.

 

[caesar88]

Wicks would be a star. Harasses like no other. Very defensive orientated.

He will be a star as a small forward, he's too important there.