List Mgmt. 2021 Draft and Trade Hypotheticals
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I agree. But necessity is the mother of invention.
With Papley, Gulden, Wicks, Sheather and possibly Cambell rolling through there, it is not an impossible scenario.
I am liking our list more and more each year with its youth and flexibility.
Look at Blakey. Started as FF, then said he was a mid and now is starring at HB.
Never rule anything out.
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I agree. But necessity is the mother of invention.
With Papley, Gulden, Wicks, Sheather and possibly Cambell rolling through there, it is not an impossible scenario.
I am liking our list more and more each year with its youth and flexibility.
Look at Blakey. Started as FF, then said he was a mid and now is starring at HB.
Never rule anything out.
I guess with Blakey it's different because he wasn't very promising in all the other positions he played in. So we had to try him elsewhere or there was a very good chance he'd have ended up a bust. Whereas Wicks is already in a position and role where he's shown he can be one of the best in the competition. So if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
So sorry rusty, I'm ruling this one out
I think too that there is a risk that too many draftees might not get games early enough. Needs to be considered carefully alongside what is available this year and next year from the Academy.
For sure a player with the right attributes suitable to become a KPD in future would still be a good get.
I wouldn't draft a small defender as it would be very difficult to develop them to AFL standard in the VFL.
IMO two in the National Draft with Anderson as a Cat B Rookie and Dittmar as a Rookie or a late pick. Four in total.
There are rookies to upgrade if necessary.
Might have to do a bit of delist and re-rookie, e.g. Sam Reid.
Try to trade picks to improve our hand both this year AND next. Hang on to that first rounder.
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Papley at centre bounces has been tried with success. I just never rule anything out.I guess with Blakey it's different because he wasn't very promising in all the other positions he played in. So we had to try him elsewhere or there was a very good chance he'd have ended up a bust. Whereas Wicks is already in a position and role where he's shown he can be one of the best in the competition. So if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
So sorry rusty, I'm ruling this one out
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Unpopular opinion but I don't think we'd be all that screwed without a specialist small defender in our 22. We have enough generalists who can play small
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Sometimes if you don't explore the question out loud you can never arrive at a decision in your mind. I think we do have those players on our list. Our draft capital is better spent elsewhere. We have more pressing needs. It's been a good discussion.
Ok. I'll rephrase it. In my opinion he fails to hit the target MORE often than not.
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If he isn't already I think he is a future star. Him and Paley cause havoc up front. Wicks has that small man mongrel but he also has that bit of class. Some of his lead up to goals are just amazing.
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Draftcentral overview on Taylor is now up.
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STRENGTHS: Skills, Smarts, Kicking, Evasion & Work rate
It lists his two areas of improvements as strength and inside game.
Just a reminder of Cal Twomey's appraisal;
Obviously at 74kg it would be a step up at AFL level, but he appears to have the tools and understanding to get his hands on the ball.
Yet to see a bad review of him and any indication of a substantial weakness, other than reference to his size (height & weight).
And I'll just post this again.
There is talent on display.
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Draftcentral overview on Taylor is now up.
Zac Taylor
It lists his two areas of improvements as strength and inside game.
Just a reminder of Cal Twomey's appraisal;
Obviously at 74kg it would be a step up at AFL level, but he appears to have the tools and understanding to get his hands on the ball.
Yet to see a bad review of him and any indication of a substantial weakness, other than reference to his size (height & weight).
And I'll just post this again.
There is talent on display.
Cheers for that HB!
I know I haven't actually seen enough of him to have an informed opinion, but as of right now I continue to be stumped by his lowly ranking (relatively speaking.) Even that overview states his areas of improvements are less weaknesses and more areas he has scope to get even better. I also can't believe that his lighter weight of 74kg would be a factor, considering it obviously hasn't effected his ability to win the ball, etc. Not to mention Matt Rowell was only 75kg at his time of drafting.
Maybe he's not APS enough for recruiters.
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Wicks commits to the Swans
There's no place like home. Local product and lively forward Sam Wicks has signed a two year contract with the Swans.
Wicks signs on for two more years.
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There's no place like home. Local product and lively forward Sam Wicks has signed a two year contract with the Swans.www.sydneyswans.com.au
Wicks signs on for two more years.
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it obviously on the optimistic side of things, but there are examples of key defenders performing at an early stage of their career. Also thinking that hopefully there are slightly older players like Harry Taylor floating around in the vfl/wafl etc
Yep, I don't get the "I know we have a hole in defence now or very near future (while every other line looks decent at least), but don't worry we'll bring in a big gun or best-22 mature age rookie, so don't need to draft anyone" stance. We have tried and failed with Darcy Moore, we brought in Brand but he's now gone. People have question marks over Melican, BOC, Gould etc making it (I agree). Paddy McCartin is far from a given (not even on the list yet).
Maybe let's be pro-active and bring in a draftee KPD or two, since that's our area of biggest need, then if we do manage to pull something else off we have depth or trade capital, but have also given us our best chance to avoid the risk of being in a flag window with our mids, forwards, rucks, but getting smashed by oppo tall forwards because the currently suspect kids didn't come on and the (likely) scenario we don't pull off some coup.
I'm of the opinion that our flag window really opens in 1-2 years, not next year, where bringing in a big gun post-season won't help anyway. There's at least some chance of a 2021 draftee having an impact then, definitely more than if we don't draft them.
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Would also prefer Murley who went the one after that.
I get back to that proposition I made earlier. Between those Richmond picks and ours there was Aleer, Bazzo, Taylor, Chesser that fell. I know in the draft it'll go differently but thats some real solid talent just out of our reach
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I'd be looking to flip 31 for a future pick, so that we retain a stronger futures position
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Currently liking Gorringe for a late pick/rookie if he is there. Plenty to work with.
Would not be surprised to see us attempt to get to early 20s with 31 and 39 if we see a slider that we rate highly still available.
Would not be surprised to see us attempt to get to early 20s with 31 and 39 if we see a slider that we rate highly still available.
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Draft age should be lowered to 16 so it matches the age of consent imo.
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I don't think we can afford to draft a KPD and wait 5 years for them to develop (unless they're a freak it's going to take that long, at least). Unless they're mature aged, we'll have to trade. Not sure how we ended up in this position, especially considering McCartin was a forward.
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We need to draft one now because in 5 years time we will be in the same position.
Why not rookie some VFL KPD. Surely there is some dominant KPD out there somewhere in the lower leagues.
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Injuries to Melican and probably also the likes of Maibaum, I suspect. We have been pretty sparse back there since Grundy retired though.
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stuff i found ... not sure if it's been posted, or seen by others
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I don't think we'll take Van Rooyen with our first pick like a lot here link us to. More than likely we'll use our first 2 to pickup the best midfielder available, pick 3 we can still grab someone like Charlie Dean. Then rookie spot McCartin. We're also resigning Reid and most assume he'll be playing in defence
Would mean our tall defenders are:
Reid
McCartin
McCartin
Melican
Dean
Would mean our tall defenders are:
Reid
McCartin
McCartin
Melican
Dean
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That is not a defence that inspires much confidence to be brutally honest....
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