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IMO having 2 very young rucks on our list wouldn't the best move.Unless Both Oscar and Archie are out injured by round 11, I don’t see the point in drafting a state league ruck, unless we honestly expect them to be our long term back up ruck for the next 3 to 5 years.
Are any of them going to be better than Archie this year?
I’d much rather draft a young ruck with a perceived greater potential, and develop them for the future.
Or draft a kid in another position, and look for a back up ruck from another club or state league during the end of season trade period.
I think that's a bit short-sighted, because both Oscar and Archie have been getting injured repeatedly this season. The criteria shouldn't be what we need in week 11, but what we need to get us through a finals push. If Oscar and/or Archie are injured when finals roll around, I think that puts us at a definite disadvantage. That's when a state leaguer can take over.Unless Both Oscar and Archie are out injured by round 11, I don’t see the point in drafting a state league ruck, unless we honestly expect them to be our long term back up ruck for the next 3 to 5 years.
Entirely possible. I haven't seen Archie play this year, but he has been pretty unimpressive in previous seasons, and many share that opinion. There were NEAFL rucks outperforming him in 2019 so I believe the top state league rucks can outperform him. Even if they can't, the recurring injuries mean he might not be healthy when we need him most.Are any of them going to be better than Archie this year?
I one hundred percent agree with you about Archie, as I was one of those banging on about him constantly being beaten by NEAFL rucks in 2019.I think that's a bit short-sighted, because both Oscar and Archie have been getting injured repeatedly this season. The criteria shouldn't be what we need in week 11, but what we need to get us through a finals push. If Oscar and/or Archie are injured when finals roll around, I think that puts us at a definite disadvantage. That's when a state leaguer can take over.
I wouldn't trust a 19 year old to come in and do a job. As I've said previously, rucks often don't contribute a lot to the team until they hit age 23-26 because their bodies aren't mature enough.
Entirely possible. I haven't seen Archie play this year, but he has been pretty unimpressive in previous seasons, and many share that opinion. There were NEAFL rucks outperforming him in 2019 so I believe the top state league rucks can outperform him. Even if they can't, the recurring injuries mean he might not be healthy when we need him most.
Glad we agree.I one hundred percent agree with you about Archie, as I was one of those banging on about him constantly being beaten by NEAFL rucks in 2019.
To me, if it could mean the difference between a finals win and a loss, it's worth doing. And a mature ruck could very well stick around beyond this season, because I'm not comfortable trusting a kid like Henry Smith to be backup. I prefer a ruck who is 25 or older, and while Archie fits that criteria, I don't think he's good enough to retain a list spot.I’m just not sold on using a mid season draft pick on a short term solution. Unless you see the state league ruck staying on the list beyond the end of the season.
Definitely a concern, but there is more than one out there, if the club feel they need one of course.Especially if a couple of teams ahead of us pick up the best of state league rucks before us.
They get a rookie contract to the end of the year, with the club then able to extend their rookie contract if they wish to keep them. Provided the club has an available rookie spot for the following season.How does the mid season draft work? Do they just get a contract to the end of the year or is it longer? Or you get priority access to draft them at end of year?
Cheers
Not just Twomey.Call Twomey talking up this kid as the clear number 1 pick in the mid season draft.
Wonder if the Lions could land him.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/579055/...ospect-stands-tall-as-mid-season-draft-option
Thats right Briz respect the OGNot just Twomey.
AFL Draft central have had him top since the beginning of the season.
Only way Lions grab him is if we have the first pick and the worst record in the league after round 11.
lolz, you’ll be happy with the pump up I just gave you guys.Thats right Briz respect the OG
Cripps will probably go to a WA team and would cost a small fortune
Last year I was hoping we'd pick Max Heath (at least once Shannon Neale was off the board), but maybe it's a good thing we didn't, as he seems to have been outperformed at the Dragons by Edwards.Call Twomey talking up this kid as the clear number 1 pick in the mid season draft.
Wonder if the Lions could land him.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/579055/...ospect-stands-tall-as-mid-season-draft-option
Last year I was hoping we'd pick Max Heath (at least once Shannon Neale was off the board), but maybe it's a good thing we didn't, as he seems to have been outperformed at the Dragons by Edwards.
Interesting reading in the AFL.com.au trade article today that the Dogs had a crack at getting Payne last year.
Well I'm glad that didn't eventuate in reality, otherwise our club forum might have actually exploded espically after the treatment for the trade of Witherden to the Eagles last season
Wonder if they would take back Adams?
Good luck with that one.I say we trade them Adams back and our 1st rounder for Marcus Bontempelli
Why are we the ones giving up a first rounder?I say we trade them Adams back and our 1st rounder for Marcus Bontempelli
If you have watched the game you will see Max Heath a much better ruck than Edwards. Edwards marks are uncontested and his hitouts are minimal.Last year I was hoping we'd pick Max Heath (at least once Shannon Neale was off the board), but maybe it's a good thing we didn't, as he seems to have been outperformed at the Dragons by Edwards.