List Mgmt. 2021 Draft picks: 4/33/75

[Deaneus!]

thanks to Lore as always

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[Mego Red]

because we can read & write as well as count to 5 not using our finger?

hamish is a bust

C'mon, Wells is cooked. Hasn't been decent for years.

 

[Scorpus]

C'mon, Wells is cooked. Hasn't been decent for years.

And has been terrible at picking players in the first round

Between 2008 and 2014 he took Mitch Brown, Daniel Menzel, Billie Smedts, Jackson Thurlow, Darcy Lang and Nakia Cockatoo with ALL of Geelong's first round picks

 

[Mutineer]

C'mon, Wells is cooked. Hasn't been decent for years.

Troy Selwood Talent I.D. Manager is the Geelong recruiter I've seen most at NAB League games the last couple of years. I've seen Tom Lonergan at several games this year also, he's either scouting or doing something to do with the Geelong Falcons.

 

[ams4crows]

Any over age Key Defenders that nominated for the draft and we're overlooked that are playing well this season that we could pick up in the Pre Season draft that could potentially replace McAsey when he undoubtedly leaves at seasons end?

 

[Golumless]

Any over age Key Defenders that nominated for the draft and we're overlooked that are playing well this season that we could pick up in the Pre Season draft that could potentially replace McAsey when he undoubtedly leaves at seasons end?

We have enough key defenders, even if McAsey goes. Talia, Butts, Borlase, Murray and Worrell are all options here.

Reassess here at the end of 2022, unless Talia is going.

 

[Bearded Clam]

We have enough key defenders, even if McAsey goes. Talia, Butts, Borlase, Murray and Worrell are all options here.

Reassess here at the end of 2022, unless Talia is going.

Yep.. no need for any new defenders at the moment unless something far too good to say no to comes up.. and we should continue to get rookies as defenders.. we seem to have more luck with those!.

 

[Mismatched]

Yep.. no need for any new defenders at the moment unless something far too good to say no to comes up.. and we should continue to get rookies as defenders.. we seem to have more luck with those!.

Yeah, you’d have to wonder how much the addition of Murray was in part preparation for McAsey leaving.

 

[Mutineer]

We have enough key defenders, even if McAsey goes. Talia, Butts, Borlase, Murray and Worrell are all options here.

Reassess here at the end of 2022, unless Talia is going.

I see Worrell and maybe Butts as the 2 most likely to be next level KPD's, Murray and Borlase not so much, they both lack the athleticism IMO that would hold them back from being next level.

 

[1990crow]

I see Worrell and maybe Butts as the 2 most likely to be next level KPD's, Murray and Borlase not so much, they both lack the athleticism IMO that would hold them back from being next level.

Disagree on Borlase. Think he’s a ripper whose skill set overcomes for any short comings in athleticism.

 

[Mutineer]

Disagree on Borlase. Think he’s a ripper whose skill set overcomes for any short comings in athleticism.

We'll both know who made the right call in a couple of years, personally I don't think there's as much scope for improvement in Borlase or Murray as the other two.

 

[kulak]

We'll both know who made the right call in a couple of years, personally I don't think there's as much scope for improvement in Borlase or Murray as the other two.

Tend to agree after seeing Borlase a couple of times in the SANFL now. Think he’s the Ben Rutten fulcrum or he’s not AFL. Not seeing the athleticism for other roles.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Tend to agree after seeing Borlase a couple of times in the SANFL now. Think he’s the Ben Rutten fulcrum or he’s not AFL. Not seeing the athleticism for other roles.

Gut feel is we need someone more mobile as the 2nd KPD to match Butts and Doedee going forward too, i.e. Worrell. That's not to say I don't think Borlase is good enough for AFL though, it's just that Butts is really starting to make that FB spot his own, and that's probably the same position Borlase would play

 

[Danger in Texas]

This should be good, will be able to get a first glance of a lot of prospects this year

 

[Mismatched]

Gut feel is we need someone more mobile as the 2nd KPD to match Butts and Doedee going forward too, i.e. Worrell. That's not to say I don't think Borlase is good enough for AFL though, it's just that Butts is really starting to make that FB spot his own, and that's probably the same position Borlase would play

I tend to agree, Borlase probably projects as pure shut down FB, similar to Butts. That’s not to say there’s no value having him on the list. Game may change and their might be more value in 2 more genuine shut down types, or we may be able to trade him for value elsewhere.

It would be great if McAsey could rediscover his intercept ability and be a bit of a McGovern/Davis style road block at CHB, combining with Doedee for intercept duties. Intercept is just such an important part of the game.

 

[Mutineer]

I tend to agree, Borlase probably projects as pure shut down FB, similar to Butts. That’s not to say there’s no value having him on the list. Game may change and their might be more value in 2 more genuine shut down types, or we may be able to trade him for value elsewhere.

It would be great if McAsey could rediscover his intercept ability and be a bit of a McGovern/Davis style road block at CHB, combining with Doedee for intercept duties. Intercept is just such an important part of the game.

Butts might be playing the shut down role right now but if you go back to his under age year for the Murray Bushrangers he led the intercept marking stat in the TAC Cup for most of the year and likely would have done the same in his draft year if he didn't become the Bushies swingman playing a mix of forward and back. Butts is much quicker and athletic than Borlase. I'd hope eventually he makes CHB his own because that IMO suits his all round game the best.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Butts might be playing the shut down role right now but if you go back to his under age year for the Murray Bushrangers he led the intercept marking stat in the TAC Cup for most of the year and likely would have done the same in his draft year if he didn't become the Bushies swingman playing a mix of forward and back. Butts is much quicker and athletic than Borlase. I'd hope eventually he makes CHB his own because that IMO suits his all round game the best.

It does seem like Butts is more focused on the shut-down side of his game right now (out of necessity for the back six as it's currently structured), but I think with experience and confidence we'll start to see more of that intercept that he showcased in his TAC Cup years. There's still a lot of upside with Jordon

Long-term (assuming Worrell makes it and McAsey leaves), I think a Butts/Worrell/Doedee combination is probably the best, and most dynamic tall defensive combination we can put out there. That said, if we want to free up Worrell as a tall utility type, we could also potentially see a Borlase/Butts/Doedee combo

 

[Mutineer]

 

[Mutineer]

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[Mr_Moogle]

And has been terrible at picking players in the first round

Between 2008 and 2014 he took Mitch Brown, Daniel Menzel, Billie Smedts, Jackson Thurlow, Darcy Lang and Nakia Cockatoo with ALL of Geelong's first round picks

I remember how much s**t they gave us for passing on Cockatoo and he ended up being vaporware.

 

[WheresGroomgone]

I remember how much sh*t they gave us for passing on Cockatoo and he ended up being vaporware.

What happened to him? He looked incredible in his early games.

 

[1990crow]

What happened to him? He looked incredible in his early games.

Brisbane player now

 

[Mismatched]

What happened to him? He looked incredible in his early games.

Injuries.

 

[Mutineer]

Anyone interested in getting a look at the likely top end draftees the AFL Academy vs Geelong VFL live stream is on the AFL website, starts soon 10.10AM AEST. Nick Daicos (Capt), Jason Horne (Vice-Capt). Some

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1 Blayne O'Loughlin (SA) North Adelaide
2 Austin Harris (Qld) Suns
3 Cooper Murley (SA) Norwood
4 Josh Rachele (Vic C) Murray Bushrangers
5 Tyler Sonsie (Vic M) Eastern Ranges
6 Nick Daicos (Vic M) Oakleigh Chargers
7 Cooper Hamilton (Vic C) Bendigo Pioneers
8 Ben Hobbs (Vic C) GWV Rebels
9 Jason Horne (SA) South Adelaide
10 Matt Roberts (SA) South Adelaide
11 Jase Burgoyne (SA) Woodville West Torrens FC
12 Sam Banks (Tas) Clarence
14 Campbell Chesser (Vic C) Sandringham Dragons
15 Josh Sinn (Vic M) Sandringham Dragons
16 Josh Fahey (NSW/ACT) Giants
17 Nasiah Wanganeen (SA) Glenelg
18 Braden Andrews (Vic M) Oakleigh Chargers
19 Neil Erasmus WA Subiaco
20 Finn Callaghan (Vic M) Sandringham Dragons
21 Blake Howes (Vic M) Sandringham Dragons
22 Matthew Johnson (WA) Subiaco
23 Jacob Van Rooyen (WA) Claremont
24 Rhett Bazzo (WA) Swan Districts
26 Ned Stevens (NT) Waratah / GC Suns
27 Jack Williams (WA) East Fremantle
28 Mac Andrew (Vic C) Dandenong Stingrays
29 Toby Conway (Vic C) Geelong Falcons
30 Ned Moyle (Vic M) Oakleigh Chargers
35 Josh Gibcus (Vic C) GWV Rebels

Geelong VFL
6 Jordan Clark

6

Jordan Clark

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.5

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.2

3star

K

10.4

4star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

(Gee)
9 Max Holmes (Gee)
11 Josh Jenkins

11

Josh Jenkins

Age

35

Ht

200cm

Wt

108kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

9.1

4star

HB

3.8

3star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.0

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

1.6

5star

(Gee)
16 Sam de Koning (Gee)
17 Esava Ratugolea

27

Esava Ratugolea

Age

25

Ht

197cm

Wt

108kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.6

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.2

4star

MG

131.6

2star

D

8.1

2star

K

4.3

2star

HB

3.9

3star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.5

3star

MG

109.0

2star

D

9.2

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

133.8

3star

(Gee)
18 Charlie Constable

33

Charlie Constable

Age

24

Ht

192cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.4

5star

K

9.0

3star

HB

12.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

3.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

22.4

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

12.4

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

(Gee)
19 Quinton Narkle

42

Quinton Narkle

Age

26

Ht

182cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

6.9

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

4star

D

11.4

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.6

4star

G

0.0

1star

D

12.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

0.8

4star

(Gee)
20 Oscar Brownless (Gee)
21 Nick Stevens (Gee)
28 Darcy Fort

32

Darcy Fort

Age

30

Ht

204cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.6

2star

K

5.8

2star

HB

2.9

3star

M

1.9

2star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.8

4star

D

9.2

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

3.2

2star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.8

3star

G

0.2

3star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.2

3star

G

1.2

4star

(Gee)
3 Shannon Neale (Gee)
36 Paul Tsapatolis (Gee)
37 Sam Simpson

37

Sam Simpson

Age

25

Ht

183cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

6.2

2star

HB

6.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.2

4star

CL

0.8

3star

D

17.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.3

5star

CL

1.7

4star

D

11.2

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

6.0

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

(Gee)
39 Zach Guthrie

39

Zach Guthrie

Age

25

Ht

188cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

5.2

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

90.0

1star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.0

2star

MG

90.0

2star

D

10.4

3star

K

3.8

2star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.6

4star

(Gee)
41 Cameron Taheny (Gee)
43 Stefan Okunbor (Gee)
52 Jackson McLachlan (St Josephs)
54 Oliver Tate (Leopold)
55 Luke Smith (Bell park)
57 Jye Chalcraft (St Marys)
60 Nicholas Burke (St Josephs)
61 Charlie Ham (St Marys)
62 Marcus Herbert (South Warrnambool)
70 Liam Herbert (Leopold)
71 Jordan Johnston (East Point)
72 Adam Garner (Colac)
78 Isaac Wareham (Bell Park)
80 Liam Fiore (Newtown)

 

[Mutineer]

#31 is GWV Rebel Fraser Maris a late call up, only found out last night he was playing.

 

[PMBangers]

Troy Selwood Talent I.D. Manager is the Geelong recruiter I've seen most at NAB League games the last couple of years. I've seen Tom Lonergan at several games this year also, he's either scouting or doing something to do with the Geelong Falcons.

Selwood is really good to talk to as well if you're up to it, very open about draft age kids and his assessments