List Mgmt. 2021 Draft picks: 4/33/75

[Deaneus!]

thanks to Lore as always

AFL Draft Pick Value Calculator - Draftguru

 

[GrommoT]

Would be a bit of a conundrum for us though - we are crying out for that elite mid an Darcy is a forward..but wow, can he play. Thilthorpe and Darcy - extremely talented twin towers up forward...but it won't happen. The dogs will 100% match any bid..they literally would be idiots not to for the value they would get by taking him

Darcy is shaping up to be good everywhere (except for doing the limbo).

 

[70lethal]

I don't think there's much chance of us trading for Dogs 1st.
Don't think they've gotten over last millenniums final losses.

 

[GrommoT]

I don't think there's much chance of us trading for Dogs 1st.
Don't think they've gotten over last millenniums final losses.

We can't really help them get points in any case.

No wonder they're trying to drum up sympathy for their draft this year - they have pick 17 and then 72 and later, about 1000 points worth and would need 2400 to match a bid at pick 1 (or even ~2000 at pick 2) ... and we were the prime cause of that last year

They could maybe trade (on current picks) 17 to Tigers for 26, 30, 42 & 48, or to Cats for 27, 28 & 33 - and they'd still be short of points. Will probably also need to trade out a player.

 

[latinoheat]

So bulldogs one of the premiership favorites this year and going to get 2 #1 picks in a row.

I can not understand how anyone can defend the father-son system.

Nothing wrong with father - son rule, I actually like it. It’s the “bundle up shitty picks to pay for it” which is unfair. They gaining team should have to hand over a pick within a 10 pick range

 

[latinoheat]

Anyone know how Kaine Baldwin is going ?

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Luke Beveridge on father-son prospect Sam Darcy and Jamarra Ugle-Hagan
Jon Ralph

4 min read
July 2, 2021 - 11:26AM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

Bulldogs father-son prospect Sam Darcy is a No. 1 pick contender in this year’s draft. And Luke Beveridge has issued a pre-emptive strike against rival clubs.

Luke Beveridge had issued a pre-emptive strike against clubs who might bid on father-son Sam Darcy with the No.1 overall pick, adamant the Crows unfairly denied Riley Thilthorpe a $10,000 investment package last year.

The 203cm key position-forward ruckman, and son of Dogs board member Luke Darcy, is considered a real chance to land in the first two spots after six goals for Vic Metro last weekend.

As revealed by the Herald Sun last year, Adelaide was happy to follow its own draft order to bid on Dogs NGA player Jamarra Ugle-Hagan despite knowing Dogs list manager Sam Power would match that bid.


It meant Ugle-Hagan was handed the mantle as the No.1 overall pick and accepted a $10,000 investment package from AFL sponsor as the first player chosen.


No.2 pick Thilthorpe has shown he could easily have been that player, given his exceptional early displays, but Ugle-Hagan was, by consensus, the best kid in the land.

Now history could repeat, with the Dogs sure to match any bid for Darcy, with Beveridge suggesting those kind of tactics were “vindictive” and against the best interests of the player who ultimately went to that club.

North Melbourne is set to have the No.1 overall pick on ladder order and could bid on both Pies father-son Nick Daicos and Darcy before taking the third-best player in SA midfielder Jason Horne.
Beveridge told 3AW Darcy might get bid on with the No.1 overall pick.


“He might and it was interesting last year with “Marra”, ultimately he gets the NAB portfolio, he gets the cash reward, he gets the recognition, with the club in Adelaide which nominated him and Riley Thilthorpe misses out on that,” he said.

“Personally if you know the Dogs are going to take him and you have the No 1 pick, wouldn’t you want your lad who is coming in to get that and let your lad have that even though you want to make us pay. There are not that many vindictive list managers and recruiters in the comp.”


The Dogs have their first and fourth-round picks but could easily trade in more points, so they will not have an issue with matching that bid.

Beveridge said he was open to playing Ugle-Hagan in his forward set-up after a month-long delay with concussion and VFL scheduling issues with Covid.

“I think the circumstance that escapes (media) is a month and a half ago we named him as emergency, he was running out games in a healthier fashion and was really productive and we loved the way he was going about it and he got the concussion and missed a month of footy and now he’s coming back into action. He had a tough day at Coburg on the weekend, but he had some valuable contributions.

“So now we are looking for him to play some footy and we are hoping he makes his debut some time in the near future but we will see how he goes. We are not wedded to any particular formation on our forward line. He plays well and he will be considered.”

That’s a bit rich given Bulldogs conduct on trading for Treloar and Keath

 

[DJ75]

The Vic coaches are becoming a real turn off
Hardwicke complaining about playing at Metricon
Bevo on being handed pick 1
Scott saying Mckay may have to get games after trying to defend Dangerfield
Clarkson and Ratten over holding the ball not being paid

Bunch of absolutely entitled flogs.

 

[Brett Cummings]

Bunch of absolutely entitled flogs.

hardwick:

"what do you mean we have to travel from victoria to victoria. this is madness."

"its not enough that we get a home grand final no matter what if we make it."

 

[70lethal]

Penalty for wearing prison bar jumper is meant to include loosing premiership points.
I think we should consider it for the showdown to secure pick 1 while p*****g off the afl, pear and Eddie.

 

[Jarman3]

Penalty for wearing prison bar jumper is meant to include loosing premiership points.
I think we should consider it for the showdown to secure pick 1 while p*****g off the afl, pear and Eddie.

This is genius.

 

[Josh Jenkins #1Fan]

I still don’t get the fact you can jump the que and get a F/S OR NGA already an advantage! But then even with crapy points you don’t have to pay the same value of points for what that draft pick is worth it’s madness….

 

[Shaz2012]

I still don’t get the fact you can jump the que and get a F/S OR NGA already an advantage! But then even with crapy points you don’t have to pay the same value of points for what that draft pick is worth it’s madness….

It would take a potential crows father son pick 1 for them to come to their senses. Mid year rule change guaranteed. Until then it’s same shit different day VFL.

 

[Mego Red]

$10k is less than a drop in the ocean of what Thilthorpe will be making in a year, let alone over the course of his career. Who gives a ****? What we also did was save him from the same spotlight that is now on JUH with everybody asking about why he isn't getting a game after going at pick 1. Would have been the same with Thilthorpe for the first couple of months until he debuted.

Beveridge doesn't seem too concerned with the "fairness" of the team that finished bottom not actually getting their pick of the best young player on offer, and instead getting gazumped by a team that played finals. And it may well happen 2 years in a row - for the same club, if you don't mind - if a pick comes on Darcy at number 1. He also didn't really get too caught up in the fact that if JUH were in this year's draft then he wouldn't get the option of matching the bid on him at all as a NGA player in the top 20.

Thilthorpe still got a $5k cheque.

Bevo is one of the biggest w@nkers in the entire AFL. Just a complete flog.

 

[Mego Red]

We can't really help them get points in any case.

No wonder they're trying to drum up sympathy for their draft this year - they have pick 17 and then 72 and later, about 1000 points worth and would need 2400 to match a bid at pick 1 (or even ~2000 at pick 2) ... and we were the prime cause of that last year

They could maybe trade (on current picks) 17 to Tigers for 26, 30, 42 & 48, or to Cats for 27, 28 & 33 - and they'd still be short of points. Will probably also need to trade out a player.

Presumably they'll trade Lipinski and probably Toby McLean.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

It’s not a $10k cheque. It’s a $10k “investment portfolio” managed by NAB with so many strings attached you have to have one of their incompetent financial jerk wipes manage it for you. I’d rather be pick 2.

 

[70lethal]

 

[the big lebowski]

Sanfl proceeding this week?

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

So have we been linked to Dawson or is this another lot of fapping over another south Aussie we won’t get.

 

[Crow till I die]

Sanfl proceeding this week?

Certainly is..the mighty double blues trounced the deadlegs at the parade last night

 

[the big lebowski]

Certainly is..the mighty double blues trounced the deadlegs at the parade last night

I don’t understand what that means but thank you.

Interested how our boy Horne goes today

 

[Crow till I die]

I don’t understand what that means but thank you.

Interested how our boy Horne goes today

Sturt beat norwood at norwood..traditional rivals

 

[the big lebowski]

Sturt beat norwood at norwood..traditional rivals

Go Sturt!?!?

 

[GrommoT]

I don’t understand what that means but thank you.

Interested how our boy Horne goes today

double blues --> Sturt
deadlegs --> redlegs --> Norwood

...and not interested in how Horne goes today

 

[Mutineer]

Hugh Jackson very quiet today with only 10 disposals 2 clearances at half time, O'Loughlin 6 disposals only?

Roosters getting flogged by the blood "n" tars

 

[Crow till I die]

Go Sturt!?!?

You are welcome here anytime friend