List Mgmt. 2021 Draft Picks part deux: 4/33/75

[Deaneus!]

thanks to Lore as always

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[Mutineer]

Come on mate, you know Mutineer gets blinded when he zeros in on a lad.

Goaters technique breaks down under pressure. Is it worth the risk? Maybe. Personally I really like what the kid brings to the table. But the modern game is about disposal efficiency, so it is a worry.

Talking about people zeroing in...how's Riley Grundy going these days?

 

[Apsaalooke]

Talking about people zeroing in...how's Riley Grundy going these days?

Better value than Brodie Grundy ATM

 

[Mutineer]

Better value than Brodie Grundy ATM

Where's Riley playing these days anyway?

 

[Apsaalooke]

Where's Riley playing these days anyway?

It’s a joke. I don’t even know who Riley is

 

[WaynesWorld19]

He needs 15kgs to his 200cm frame being only 70kgs , Curious how he would be with more weight

Same would apply to Darcy ....yet no-one raise's his weight, only Mac Andrew

Yeh ....we have another player you have to use his full name, like Eddie Betts

 

[Disco Fox]

Where's Riley playing these days anyway?

Sturt - aka The Mighty Double Blues!!!!!

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Freo have no chance of getting him. GWS will take him at 2 or at 4 if they trade with us.

More likely GWS go Gibcus or Andrew .....so you can understand their willingness to trade #2

 

[Crowked]

Same would apply to Darcy ....yet no-one raise's his weight, only Mac Andrew

It applies to almost all 18yo talls. A Sudanese lad might have more trouble putting weight on though. All the Sudanese lads my boy has played with are very tall but still painfully thin even in their mid twenties now. Not many of the African lads in Australia are ever going to have a build like Majak. With Darcy you at least know the old man was a pretty big unit. Anyone seen Andrew’s old man? Maybe an older brother or something to give an idea?

 

[Mutineer]

Sturt - aka The Mighty Double Blues!!!!!

Reserves?

Haven't seen him in some of the Sturt games I've watched?

 

[Mutineer]

More likely GWS go Gibcus or Andrew .....so you can understand their willingness to trade #2

your man love is obvious so this might interest you...





And while we're on man love my boys Kai and Josh....Country boys the best...Already mates so draft em both?

 

[Disco Fox]

Reserves?

Haven't seen him in some of the Sturt games I've watched?

Yes - 2021 was his first season with Sturt & I don't think he played League.

 

[ams4crows]

Mutineer are you going to be upset if Goater falls to Port and they draft him? Seems like you've gone all in on the kid

 

[Danger in Texas]

No I don't because I've watched more than a highlight reel, all he needs to do is replicate his kicking when playing off half back where he settles before putting it to foot on most occasions. He's relatively new to midfield but he's proven he can already find the football in bunches against good opposition in the challenge matches and the several NAB League games he played in there, his hands are already elite, his kicking is highly penetrating already, it's all about getting comfortable in the midfield role and learning to settle for a stride or two instead of disposing at maximum rat power.

There is not 1 player in this draft with better tools at their disposal to be an absolute game-breaker, not one. This bloke is the closest player I've seen to a Patty Dangerfield clone in years.

I’m high on Goater as well, but IMO you have to put JHF and Callaghan in that game breaker conversation, too. Three different types of players with really high ceilings in their own right

The reason Goater’s probably a bit lower is that he’s a bit less of a sure thing. Not as much exposed midfield form, although when he’s been used there he’s one of the most dangerous clearance players in the pool. The hope is that he translates his extra productive game at the next level from half back to the midfield - which he absolutely can, just needs to calm down a bit when going flat-out then thinking of disposing by foot

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I’m high on Goater as well, but IMO you have to put JHF and Callaghan in that game breaker conversation, too. Three different types of players with really high ceilings in their own right

The reason Goater’s probably a bit lower is that he’s a bit less of a sure thing. Not as much exposed midfield form, although when he’s been used there he’s one of the most dangerous clearance players in the pool. The hope is that he translates his extra productive game at the next level from half back to the midfield - which he absolutely can, just needs to calm down a bit when going flat-out then thinking of disposing by foot

Just playing Devils Advocate here ....wasn't Callaghan ranked around 20 at the start of the year ? .....need to allow for the restricted # of games with some late developers ....and Goater would fall into that category, as he's only played a handful of games as a MID

And it's in this new role that has pricked the ears of recruiters

 

[WaynesWorld19]

your man love is obvious so this might interest you...





And while we're on man love my boys Kai and Josh....Country boys the best...Already mates so draft em both?

 

[feenix67]

Talking about people zeroing in...how's Riley Grundy going these days?

Lol clutching at straws there bud. I'll happily accept Brad Crouch though

 

[Chase13]

I’m high on Goater as well, but IMO you have to put JHF and Callaghan in that game breaker conversation, too. Three different types of players with really high ceilings in their own right

The reason Goater’s probably a bit lower is that he’s a bit less of a sure thing. Not as much exposed midfield form, although when he’s been used there he’s one of the most dangerous clearance players in the pool. The hope is that he translates his extra productive game at the next level from half back to the midfield - which he absolutely can, just needs to calm down a bit when going flat-out then thinking of disposing by foot

if we split picks with richmond

9 rachelle
17 goater

both after bids daicos darcy

will Goater any chance last to 17 that’s my question

 

[ABAB]

if we split picks with richmond

9 rachelle
17 goater

both after bids daicos darcy

will Goater any chance last to 17 that’s my question

So select Draper.

 

[Mutineer]

Lol clutching at straws there bud. I'll happily accept Brad Crouch though

Might not have had his best season but not too bad.
2021 Trevor Barker Award
1. Jack Steele - 234 votes
2. Jack Sinclair - 155
3. Tim Membrey - 136
4. Callum Wilkie - 124
=5. Brad Crouch - 120
=5. Bradley Hill - 120
7. Seb Ross - 117
8. Dougal Howard - 112
9. Jimmy Webster - 105
10. Max King - 101

 

[Mutineer]

Just playing Devils Advocate here ....wasn't Callaghan ranked around 20 at the start of the year ? .....need to allow for the restricted # of games with some late developers ....and Goater would fall into that category, as he's only played a handful of games as a MID

And it's in this new role that has pricked the ears of recruiters

Before the couple of early season trial games Callaghan was virtually unheralded altogether.

No Vic Metro at U16 level unlike Goater who was, albeit as a running back.

 

[Disco Fox]

if we split picks with richmond

9 rachelle
17 goater

both after bids daicos darcy

will Goater any chance last to 17 that’s my question

I would think not.

 

[George Kramer]

Might not have had his best season but not too bad.
2021 Trevor Barker Award
1. Jack Steele - 234 votes
2. Jack Sinclair - 155
3. Tim Membrey - 136
4. Callum Wilkie - 124
=5. Brad Crouch - 120
=5. Bradley Hill - 120
7. Seb Ross - 117
8. Dougal Howard - 112
9. Jimmy Webster - 105
10. Max King - 101

In a s**t side and that’s a pretty shitty top 10, Bradley Hill had a shocker and he tied with him. Seb Ross?

 

[Mutineer]

In a sh*t side and that’s a pretty shitty top 10, Bradley Hill had a shocker and he tied with him. Seb Ross?

A s**t team that finished 1 game out of the eight....and measly 36 disposals against Adelaide's finest.

 

[George Kramer]

A sh*t team that finished 1 game out of the eight....and measly 36 disposals against Adelaide's finest.

You think the Saints were good? We beat them As for our midfield it’s widely recognised as sucking.

 

[Mutineer]

You think the Saints were good? We beat them As for our midfield it’s widely recognised as sucking.

I never said that did I?

But sure as Hell they were a superior outfit to the Crows across the entirety of the 2021 season...that much is indisputable.