List Mgmt. 2021 draft pool.

[Lore]

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Well the only A+ player on our list is the great man.
George!

 

[Mr Magic]

GWS pick 2 is definitely up for grabs

If we can i think we should trade a A+ player for it. Last top 3 picks Lids, Cotchin, Martin...

They desperately need a tall but im not sure CCJ alone would command a pick 2.

Have you not read my posts?

We do not have to give away any players.

We trade some players to GWS, get some players from GWS, trade them back in 2023 or 2024 and nothing changes except we get picks 2 and 13 and adjust a few club payments for players and GWS get a great chance to win in 2022 against Bulldogs and Melbourne while we develop our youngsters before the next surge when we get the players back in the switch

 

[4tune8]

Have you not read my posts?

We do not have to give away any players.

We trade some players to GWS, get some players from GWS, trade them back in 2023 or 2024 and nothing changes except we get picks 2 and 13 and adjust a few club payments for players and GWS get a great chance to win in 2022 against Bulldogs and Melbourne while we develop our youngsters before the next surge

You Sir need a reality check.

That sort of (I was going to say thinking) hallucination is not and will not happen. No matter how much you bang on about it.

 

[Mr Magic]

yes it would be like us trading out Jack, Cotchin Edwards cause of their age the value is very low in trade.

This is the most amazing post. As if GWS would want Cotchin let alone Edwards? What do GWS have? A abundance of midfielders. How does Cotchin help GWS win a premiership in 2022?

At the end of the day GWS need a list to beat Bulldogs and Melbourne in 2022 if not 2023 so why would they entertain such movement and trading away such picks if they cannot get the necessary cattle to threaten those squads?

GWS as I see it have virtually no incentive to get Cotchin and Edwards because they make minimal impact towards them beating Bulldogs and Melbourne in a premiership in 2022 let alone 2023 so why would they want such players for various picks?

 

[Mr Magic]

You Sir need a reality check.

That sort of (I was going to say thinking) hallucination is not and will not happen. No matter how much you bang on about it.

Actually you need a reality check. Treloar is paying for the Bulldogs in a GF in two weeks with the Pies paying 300K towards his salary.

Can your brain not comput what this means and enables?

Furthermore can your brain not comput the forces at play for Collingwood to push for such a trade?

Trust me, I am not making this up!! Check the AFL record in two weeks time for the Grand Final if you wish!

 

[tigs2010]

Have you not read my posts?

We do not have to give away any players.

We trade some players to GWS, get some players from GWS, trade them back in 2023 or 2024 and nothing changes except we get picks 2 and 13 and adjust a few club payments for players and GWS get a great chance to win in 2022 against Bulldogs and Melbourne while we develop our youngsters before the next surge when we get the players back in the switch

 

[_RT_]

Have you not read my posts?

We do not have to give away any players.

We trade some players to GWS, get some players from GWS, trade them back in 2023 or 2024 and nothing changes except we get picks 2 and 13 and adjust a few club payments for players and GWS get a great chance to win in 2022 against Bulldogs and Melbourne while we develop our youngsters before the next surge when we get the players back in the switch

 

[DoItForCaptBlood]

I reckon we’ll just go best available with our firsts, whoever that ends up being is anyone’s guess. I don’t think anyone really knows what order the players will go after the first 3 (Daicos, Darcy & Horne-Francis) but I wouldn’t be surprised if Freo with 6 (Cerra trade) & 8 taking Erasmus & Amiss. Erasmus at 6 because I don’t think he’d get past us to take at 8.

We don't know where they sit in their ratings compared to the 8-9 players in that range, and how much weighting they are going to put on these two as local boys. If they have them rated as best available and want both, they will have a dilemma not knowing what we are thinking with out pick smack in the middle though. We may take the one they don't!!

 

[Bird Man]

This is the most amazing post. As if GWS would want Cotchin let alone Edwards? What do GWS have? A abundance of midfielders. How does Cotchin help GWS win a premiership in 2022?

At the end of the day GWS need a list to beat Bulldogs and Melbourne in 2022 if not 2023 so why would they entertain such movement and trading away such picks if they cannot get the necessary cattle to threaten those squads?

GWS as I see it have virtually no incentive to get Cotchin and Edwards because they make minimal impact towards them beating Bulldogs and Melbourne in a premiership in 2022 let alone 2023 so why would they want such players for various picks?

Follow the thread magic I said it would “be like” never did a say that that’s what we should do but suggested trading A+ would get the picks. FYI Cotchin and Jack are no longer A+ players.

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[HumanMeatball]

Guys it’s only September mr magic is only warming up. Get ready

 

[daird]

There's some delusional shit being mentioned in here

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

There's some delusional sh*t being mentioned in here

We're nowhere near Carlton level of delusional.

 

[tigs2010]

There's some delusional sh*t being mentioned in here

Are you saying we can’t give GWS players and borrow theirs and then swap them back in 2024 via the new Hobart team while the GWS guys go back via the New Zealand team in 2027 and we get pick 2 & 13 this year?

Back to the drawing board…

 

[Mr Magic]

Follow the thread magic I said it would “be like” never did a say that that’s what we should do but suggested trading A+ would get the picks. FYI Cotchin and Jack are no longer A+ players.

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It has nothing to do with A+ players.

Its about players that fit in a team to win a premiership at a point in time by beating certain opposition like the Bulldogs and Melbourne.

Ultimately, if the club's team is not designed to win premierships or developing to eventually a team combo to win premierships it is blowing wind up your a hole like Geelong

 

[Charlie Pannam]

Are you saying we can’t give GWS players and borrow theirs and then swap them back in 2024 via the new Hobart team while the GWS guys go back via the New Zealand team in 2027 and we get pick 2 & 13 this year?

Back to the drawing board…

I might give this one a run tomorrow on SEN - Gerard Whateley and Tom Edmunds have a segment where viewers can text/ring in their trade rumours.

this one could have legs

 

[tigs2010]

I might give this one a run tomorrow on SEN - Gerard Whateley and Tom Edmunds have a segment where viewers can text/ring in their trade rumours.

this one could have legs

The players would be Matt de Boer, Adam Kennedy, Jason Castagna, Jake Aarts, Mabior Chol and Ben Lennon

 

[4tune8]

The players would be Matt de Boer, Adam Kennedy, Jason Castagna, Jake Aarts, Mabior Chol and Ben Lennon

 

[GoTigers2015]

I wonder if we'll take Mackenzie Cowley with a late pick. Media gone quiet on him the last couple of years but seems to have had an alright year, 27 goals from 10 games:

Mackenzie Cowley - Player Statistics

Player Statistics for Mackenzie Cowley while playing in the Murray Football League Powered by GameDay

websites.mygameday.app

Could be a Cat B rookie selection, still have a spot.

Those country leagues aren't a good indication of talent, Egg won the Sunraysia league B&F in his draft year.

 

[sregit]

This is the most amazing post. As if GWS would want Cotchin let alone Edwards? What do GWS have? A abundance of midfielders. How does Cotchin help GWS win a premiership in 2022?

At the end of the day GWS need a list to beat Bulldogs and Melbourne in 2022 if not 2023 so why would they entertain such movement and trading away such picks if they cannot get the necessary cattle to threaten those squads?

GWS as I see it have virtually no incentive to get Cotchin and Edwards because they make minimal impact towards them beating Bulldogs and Melbourne in a premiership in 2022 let alone 2023 so why would they want such players for various picks?

You are out of your mind. I understand what you’re saying but the one thing you are not taking into account is that RFC and GWS would be found guilty of collusion by the AFL and deregistered possibly for a few years.

Please stop flooding this board with your nonsensical, I’ll considered rubbish.

 

[Maurice Mitchell]

Benning is part of Freo's academy so unless someone takes a big punt on him he's likely to go there. Interested in what you thought of Matty Roberts, the left footer from SA and Mathew Johnson, the tall rangy mid from WA ?

I watched the 2nd half on the weekend. My thoughts didn’t change much. I don’t really have an opinion on Roberts but maybe I missed him. Johnson looked good. Very composed; which I can’t say for many of them but he didn’t seem to get a lot of it.

I could be wrong about that though - I haven’t seen the the stats.

Amiss and the others I mentioned continued to play well. Van Rooyen looked better than the first half.

But, the dominant takeout was the terrible foot skills. I doubt I have seen so many kicking turnovers as there was in the second half.

Back and forward - one or two kicks max until occasionally the WA boys got it through the defence for a goal. The ball hardly ever spun properly - mostly floaters and mongrels. Maybe wind was a factor.

Hopefully the Vic boys are good.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Actually you need a reality check. Treloar is paying for the Bulldogs in a GF in two weeks with the Pies paying 300K towards his salary.

Can your brain not comput what this means and enables?

Furthermore can your brain not comput the forces at play for Collingwood to push for such a trade?

Trust me, I am not making this up!! Check the AFL record in two weeks time for the Grand Final if you wish!

Dude i really want what your smoking , Is it available in Melbourne or do i have to go dark web

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Are you saying we can’t give GWS players and borrow theirs and then swap them back in 2024 via the new Hobart team while the GWS guys go back via the New Zealand team in 2027 and we get pick 2 & 13 this year?

Back to the drawing board…

I think you are the only person that understood Majic

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

The players would be Matt de Boer, Adam Kennedy, Jason Castagna, Jake Aarts, Mabior Chol and Ben Lennon

Corey Ellis ?

 

[Mr Magic]

You are out of your mind. I understand what you’re saying but the one thing you are not taking into account is that RFC and GWS would be found guilty of collusion by the AFL and deregistered possibly for a few years.

Please stop flooding this board with your nonsensical, I’ll considered rubbish.

How is it collusion?

Each club has a different agenda?

Is any trade collusion? If not why not?

How is the Treloar trade not collusion under your argument?

The players employer is the AFL, is it not, so how could it be collusion? Isn't the clubs owned by AFL HQ? The clubs are not separate so how could they collude if under the one apparatus? Are you arguing insider trading within a organisational ethos?

I am reading your political argument but I do not see any legal argument that can stand up in court.

I tend to ignore politics and focus on performance as I prefer stakeholders, including the players, maximise their rewards and opportunity. Your political argument may be construed as a restraint of trade without compensation.

Is not all monopolies collusive? No competitors to the AFL are allowed so where is the fallout? All stakeholders are signed up and bound to the AFL collusion or not!!

What you are suggesting is RFC is not able to act autonomously within the rules to gain competitive advantage not adversely affecting a counterparty but because politically it upsets others, whether stakeholders including fans like it or not. If that is the case I will check out for 15 plus years and wait before RFC is allowed to make a run for the premiership again. Is that why Geelong do what they do because they realise they are not allowed to win another premiership anyway due to politics of other stakeholders so we make finals even though we know we are not allowed to win it?

 

[4tune8]

How is it collusion?

Each club has a different agenda?

Is any trade collusion? If not why not?

How is the Treloar trade not collusion under your argument?

The players employer is the AFL, is it not, so how could it be collusion? Isn't the clubs owned by AFL HQ? The clubs are not separate so how could they collude if under the one apparatus? Are you arguing insider trading within a organisational ethos?

I am reading your political argument but I do not see any legal argument that can stand up in court.

I tend to ignore politics and focus on performance as I prefer stakeholders, including the players, maximise their rewards and opportunity. Your political argument may be construed as a restraint of trade without compensation.

Is not all monopolies collusive? No competitors to the AFL are allowed so where is the fallout? All stakeholders are signed up and bound to the AFL collusion or not!!

What you are suggesting is RFC is not able to act autonomously within the rules to gain competitive advantage not adversely affecting a counterparty but because politically it upsets others, whether stakeholders including fans like it or not. If that is the case I will check out for 15 plus years and wait before RFC is allowed to make a run for the premiership again. Is that why Geelong do what they do because they realise they are not allowed to win another premiership anyway due to politics of other stakeholders so we make finals even though we know we are not allowed to win it?