List Mgmt. 2021 draft pool.

[Lore]

 

[Dragonss]

Lennon wasn't pick 6.

That's how bad he was, I overrated him and thought he was pick 6 but he was pick 12.

 

[HumanMeatball]

The last 3 pick 8s have been pre good

 

[YeOldTiger]

Trading Up ?????? Don't we already have 4 picks inside 30 ???

Yes but we really want 3 inside 20.

 

[YeOldTiger]

So, I don't watch the draftees at all but like to follow those who do to get a feel for likely draft range.

My question is: are there any matches coming up for them that are likely to see the general consensus change much?

I have no idea what matches are being played but assume state vs state matches probably haven't and won't happen?

Yes the U19 Championships (usually played mid year as U18) begin later this month. Vic Metro, Vic Country, WA, SA and the Allies taking part. These games are what everyone has been waiting for to really get a solid idea of who the best players are.

 

[tigerfan1961]

Yes but we really want 3 inside 20.

Wanting and getting are two completely different scenarios

 

[SumTingWong]

Yes the U19 Championships (usually played mid year as U18) begin later this month. Vic Metro, Vic Country, WA, SA and the Allies taking part. These games are what everyone has been waiting for to really get a solid idea of who the best players are.

Do you know if they are likely to be televised?

 

[YeOldTiger]

Do you know if they are likely to be televised?

I believe Fox are televising them and also Kayo mate. Have fun.

 

[YeOldTiger]

Wanting and getting are two completely different scenarios

Yep, thats why it's called trading UP lol

 

[YeOldTiger]

Good to see Mathew Roberts back from his ankle injury picking up 20p first up in the SANFL seniors. Clearance specialist.

Twomey's Draft Team of the Year: Falcons ball-magnet, SA mid among three changes

Check out draft guru Cal Twomey's updated Draft Team of the Year

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[Rocco sifreddi]

Good to see Mathew Roberts back from his ankle injury picking up 20p first up in the SANFL seniors. Clearance specialist.

Twomey's Draft Team of the Year: Falcons ball-magnet, SA mid among three changes

Check out draft guru Cal Twomey's updated Draft Team of the Year

www.afl.com.au

This is the kid I want , a natural ball winner.

 

[smurfin]

So, without trading it out, our first pick should be between 7 and 10. Looks to me like there’s not much difference between those, with quality dropping a bit after pick 10.


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[Rioli2Rioli]

So, without trading it out, our first pick should be between 7 and 10. Looks to me like there’s not much difference between those, with quality dropping a bit after pick 10.


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At pick #7 you may just get a Erasmus / Gibcus / Hobbs slide but most likely gone at #10

 

[smurfin]

Ignoring Daicos & Darcy.
I expect Horne #1,
Callahan, Hobbs, Erasmus 2,3,4.
then: Roberts, Ward, Rachele, Gibcus, Sinn, Goater all 5-10 in any order.
But yes, will be more choice if we lose and Saints win this round and we end up with pick 7 rather than 10.
But if we win and end up with pick 10 - then at least one of the names I've mentioned will be available.

 

[SumTingWong]

Ignoring Daicos & Darcy.
I expect Horne #1,
Callahan, Hobbs, Erasmus 2,3,4.
then: Roberts, Ward, Rachele, Gibcus, Sinn, Goater all 5-10 in any order.
But yes, will be more choice if we lose and Saints win this round and we end up with pick 7 rather than 10.
But if we win and end up with pick 10 - then at least one of the names I've mentioned will be available.

That's good because we want Gibcus

 

[living_in_syd]

If we lose and finish 11/12, draft pick will be 7/8 pushed back to 9/10?

 

[Marcel Proust]

Draw good result draft wise

 

[smurfin]

Depending on how the Saints go, we now have pick 7 or 8.
Top 4 ( and Daicos/ Darcy) I expect to all be midfielders - too good for any to pass.
Then Hawthorn, Carlton, maybe St Kilda to pick. They should go midfielders since their second picks are a fair way down the line.

Maybe we will go Gibcus?
Our next pick at ~16 should get a decent midfielder.

Brisbane have picks 13 & 17, so would probably think the same way, meaning 13 is about as late as Gibcus would go if we don't pick him.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Depending on how the Saints go, we now have pick 7 or 8.
Top 4 ( and Daicos/ Darcy) I expect to all be midfielders - too good for any to pass.
Then Hawthorn, Carlton, maybe St Kilda to pick. They should go midfielders since their second picks are a fair way down the line.

Maybe we will go Gibcus?
Our next pick at ~16 should get a decent midfielder.

Brisbane have picks 13 & 17, so would probably think the same way, meaning 13 is about as late as Gibcus would go if we don't pick him.

Gibcus wont last past pick #10 most likely first live 5 picks

If we ended up with Gibcus & Van Rooyen with our first 2 picks i will be happy as pig in mud

 

[Bird Man]

If we lose and finish 11/12, draft pick will be 7/8 pushed back to 9/10?

yeah we have pick 10 technically

 

[Bird Man]

looked at some of the draft experts phantom drafts and their all very different from each other

 

[YeOldTiger]

looked at some of the draft experts phantom drafts and their all very different from each other

Things will become a lot clearer once the National U19 Championships have been completed.

 

[Jozzy]

Depending on how the Saints go, we now have pick 7 or 8.

Both the Dogs and Pies will jump in front of us to have their father son selections for Daicos and Darcy. It’d end up being 9/10 depending on the Saints result tomorrow.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

I really dont get this line of thinking where our pick will slide due to father son stuff

Daicos & Darcey are not available so just forget their names as their club wont pass them

We will get the 7th / 8th best player available - simple

 

[Jozzy]

I really dont get this line of thinking where our pick will slide due to father son stuff

Daicos & Darcey are not available so just forget their names as their club wont pass them

We will get the 7th / 8th best player available - simple

I can completely respect the logic around this mate. You’re totally right, we’re not going to be able to get either Darcy or Daicos as they’ll be taken under the father son selection.

However, the fact of the matter is they’re both still players entering the draft. The two of them are included in every big board, power ranking and mock draft so when trying to look at the different options we may have, I personally want to look at the players who are realistically there so to me it’s only logical to call the draft picks at the number they’ll be taken in there draft.

There’s plenty of other father son and academy selections that are already looking bailed on for the draft. Whilst they may not be as hyped up as Daicos and Darcy these other picks will impact the placement of our other picks. I’m not going to take all those players our of the draft and try adjusting our other picks to not include these players so I’m not going to do it with our first picks.

You’re of course most welcome to do whatever you want, we all have our own ways of thinking through things. I completely see where you’re coming from, I just wanted to justify why it’s done in that way and justify the way it’s normally thought.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

I can completely respect the logic around this mate. You’re totally right, we’re not going to be able to get either Darcy or Daicos as they’ll be taken under the father son selection.

However, the fact of the matter is they’re both still players entering the draft. The two of them are included in every big board, power ranking and mock draft so when trying to look at the different options we may have, I personally want to look at the players who are realistically there so to me it’s only logical to call the draft picks at the number they’ll be taken in there draft.

There’s plenty of other father son and academy selections that are already looking bailed on for the draft. Whilst they may not be as hyped up as Daicos and Darcy these other picks will impact the placement of our other picks. I’m not going to take all those players our of the draft and try adjusting our other picks to not include these players so I’m not going to do it with our first picks.

You’re of course most welcome to do whatever you want, we all have our own ways of thinking through things. I completely see where you’re coming from, I just wanted to justify why it’s done in that way and justify the way it’s normally thought.

I realize and accept they will have to be included in the mock drafts and rankings , My comment was more direct to people who say " But our pick will go down 2 spots and are infact devaluing the pick"

Similar to freo supporters who are saying but carltons pick 5/6 will be 78 so thats not good enough etc
Basically you are getting the 5th / 6th best player available and thats the way it should be valued as these payers even if you have #1 wont be available to you.

Im being a bit pedantic yes i know