List Mgmt. 2021 draft pool.

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[YeOldTiger]

 

[YeOldTiger]

Twomey's Draft Team of the Year: Falcons ball-magnet, SA mid among three changes

Check out draft guru Cal Twomey's updated Draft Team of the Year

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[Tomnat Tigers]

At this stage leaning towards trading pick 7 (more likely 9) for 2 lower first round picks. For example at this point in time Brisbane have picks 15/18 (more likely 17/20).

Im not seeing any clear talent between picks 6-15 that makes me think an extra first rounder wouldn't be worth it. Although that opinion could easily change should we manage to get a carnival up and running which is incredibly unlikely.

Can see similarities between this draft and 2017.

 

[AstuteTiger]

We are likely to land 2 very talented players with our two first-rounders. One mid, and one tall defender, thank you very much.


7. Ben Hobbs
GWV Rebels/Vic Country | Inside Midfielder

16/09/2003 | 183cm | 80kg

NAB League: 6 games | 25.0 disp | 5.0 tackles

Hobbs offers the best contested ball winning rate in the pool. He’s a true in-and-under type who seems to either win possession or lay a crunching tackle at every contest. What he lacks in athleticism, he is able to make up for in great reading of the play and a high-octane style that smaller bodies in the NAB League can’t match up with. His leadership at the Rebels has also been ultra-impressive, and it’s an important aspect of his game that has come to the fore this season.

Best traits similar to: Taylor Adams

8. Josh Gibcus
GWV Rebels/Vic Country | Key Defender

4/04/2003 | 195cm | 84kg

NAB League: 10 games | 12.5 disp | 4.4 marks

Gibcus is the most proven key defender in the draft. He’s at his best when he flies for his marks and hits the ground running, generating the drive as well as defensive soundness in the back-half for the Rebels. He very rarely gets beaten in one-on-one situations, positioning himself really well and reading the flight of the ball better than most. Gibcus had a great last-quarter battle with Sam Darcy in the Country vs Metro hit-out earlier in the year where he broke even despite giving up a few inches.

Best traits similar to: Jake Lever

9. Mac Andrew
Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country | Ruck/Utility

12/04/2003 | 200cm | 70kg

NAB League: 6 games | 12.6 disp | 12.6 HOs

Andrew has gotten better as the competition increases around him. He possesses the deft touch that ruckmen like Paddy Ryder utilise to great effect when getting the ball down to their midfielders. Around the ground, he offers boundless athleticism to surge past opponents, and a pogo-stick vertical jump to take pack marks despite his lighter frame. There is a lot of work to be done in the gym for Andrew, but there remains best-in-class upside about what he can become at the next level.

Best traits similar to: Paddy Ryder

10. Arlo Draper
South Adelaide/South Australia | Midfielder/Forward

20/01/2003 | 185cm | 71kg

SANFL U18s: 8 games | 24 disp | 1.3 goals

Draper made his senior debut for the Panthers on the weekend after a syndesmosis injury sidelined him. He takes the game on with aggression and impressive athleticism, while remaining skilful and composed with ball in hand. He looked assured of himself with 12 touches and a goal as a half-forward, mixing it with the bigger bodies for the first time. The high-flyer has impressed with his time in the midfield, but figures to start his career as an X-factor forward-half player that can apply great pressure defensively and on the scoreboard.

Best traits similar to: Jarrod Berry

7

Jarrod Berry

Age

27

Ht

193cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.4

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

8.9

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

17.0

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.1

5star

CL

2.9

4star

D

10.6

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

6.2

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

0.8

3star

11. Josh Goater
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro | Midfielder

2/06/2003 | 190cm | 79kg

NAB League: 7 games | 24.0 disp | 5.0 marks

Goater has been a bit of an unknown before this season – thrown around the ground and unable to take over a game beforehand, he has excelled this year. Playing as an inside midfielder for Metro, Goater utilised all of his athletic gifts and height to dominate in the trial match with 26 disposals. He’s powerful off the mark, has an impressive leap and stop-on-a-dime evasiveness. All of these talents could make him incredible off half-back as well, but his play throughout in the engine room has been superb in 2021.

Best traits similar to: Elliot Yeo

12. Josh Sinn
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro | General Defender

7/01/2003 | 186cm | 82kg

NAB League: 5 games | 17.6 disp | 3.4 marks

Sinn is a pure line-breaker with great speed and an attitude to take the game on. He boasts a penetrating left foot that is a weapon entering the 50, and can run 15 metres either side of a bounce and deliver a pin-point pass from 50m away. Sinn hasn’t been troubled defensively either for the Dragons, although that’s a big question mark heading into the Championships. He needs to become a more reliable kick over 20-30m and does fade out of games at points, but Sinn projects to be an excellent half-back/wing at the next level.

Best traits similar to: Bailey Dale

31

Bailey Dale

Age

29

Ht

188cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

1.6

4star

MG

117.4

2star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.1

2star

HB

3.9

3star

M

2.3

2star

T

1.7

3star

MG

117.4

2star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.4

2star

T

2.0

4star

13. Josh Ward
Northern Knights/Vic Metro | Midfielder

15/08/2003 | 181cm | 79kg

5 games | 30.2 disp | 4.8 tackles

A gut-runner with incredible skill and tenacity, Ward looks to be one of the better midfielders in the current crop. Playing on-ball for the Knights, he consistently finds possession in the clinches despite his smaller frame, putting his head over the ball 20-plus times a game and winning it time again. From there, he is often the first midfielder to the next contest which has seen him hit the scoreboard in the NAB League. There’s huge upside as a midfielder at the next level when Ward gets pre-seasons under his belt.

Best traits similar to: Sam Walsh

14. Neil Erasmus
Subiaco/Western Australia | Midfielder/Forward

2/12/2003 | 188cm | 80kg

WAFL Colts: 4 games | 28 disp | 7.7 marks

Erasmus had a sensational finals campaign with Subiaco that culminated in the 2020 Colts flag. He kicked four goals in the Grand Final, but in 2021 he’s taken his game to the next level, transitioning into a weapon in the midfield. His progression as a contested player is eye-catching, and he still plays with freedom that showcases his leap and athletic traits. Erasmus’ return from a quad injury earlier in the year could have hampered his draft season, but he has shown no ill-effects and is one of the more exciting prospects in this year’s pool.

Best traits similar to: Zac Bailey

33

Zac Bailey

Age

26

Ht

181cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.9

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.2

4star

CL

0.9

3star

D

12.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

5.6

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.4

3star

CL

0.7

3star

D

13.4

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.8

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

2.8

5star

CL

0.6

3star

15. Matthew Roberts
South Adelaide/South Australia | Midfielder

31/07/2003 | 183cm | 81kg

SANFL League: 3 games | 13.0 disp | 0.3 goals

Getting an extended run in the seniors, Roberts has shown some real class on the wing for the Panthers. Over the years he has demonstrated his ability as an inside midfielder with a capacity to rip the ball out in stoppages and feed runners, and he has made great strides in his ball use and composure since coming back from a syndesmosis earlier in the year. Roberts has a booming left boot at his disposal that has come to the fore with regularity, and continues to add outside aspects to his game.

Best traits similar to: Rory Sloane

16. Jye Amiss
East Perth/Western Australia | Key Forward

31/07/2003 | 195cm | 85kg

WAFL Colts: 12 games | 11.2 disp | 4.1 goals

Amiss doesn’t miss in front of the big sticks this season, booting 49 goals for the Royals. He presents at the ball like a traditional key forward and his work-rate around the ground is huge with his ground-level game really tidy. His side isn’t dominant which makes his output really impressive, making the most of his chances when they present and converting at an insane 75 per cent in front of goals. Amiss isn’t a huge pack mark and hasn’t had senior exposure yet, but his form in the Colts and within WA trials has been undeniable.

Best traits similar to: Jack Riewoldt

 

[tigs2010]

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Horne and Van Rooyen will be nice with our second rounders

 

[YeOldTiger]

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[YeOldTiger]

lollingwood hahaha

Collingwood had its worst ladder finish ever. This very costly trade makes it even worse

Collingwood had its worst ladder finish ever. This very costly trade makes it even worse

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

lollingwood hahaha

Collingwood had its worst ladder finish ever. This very costly trade makes it even worse

Collingwood had its worst ladder finish ever. This very costly trade makes it even worse

www.foxsports.com.au

I was a big advocate to trade our 1st last year plus the pick we picked up Samson Ryan for the Pies 1st this year

Would have been sensational to have pick #2 and our pick #7 this year

 

[richoplzbreed]

If Geelong bombs out of finals in straight sets can pick 16 come down as low as pick 13?

 

[GoTigers2015]

Need an inside mid, KPD/KPF , speed on the wings

7 Gibcus

13-18 best mid - maybe Goater

26 One of the WA talls Williams/Amiss/Van_Rooyen

28 Wanganeen-Millera

Possibly packaging 41 and 44 with Chol compo for a higher pick.

Like the look of Josh Rachele also if we managed to get another first rounder.

 

[Lsta062]

Didn’t teams have the ability to pick up Schlensog in the midseason draft? If he’s ranked so highly, I wonder why no one did

 

[hyperfuzz]

At this stage leaning towards trading pick 7 (more likely 9) for 2 lower first round picks. For example at this point in time Brisbane have picks 15/18 (more likely 17/20).

Im not seeing any clear talent between picks 6-15 that makes me think an extra first rounder wouldn't be worth it. Although that opinion could easily change should we manage to get a carnival up and running which is incredibly unlikely.

Can see similarities between this draft and 2017.

plus knowing us we’d probably use Pick 7 for someone tipped to go Pick 15 anyway

 

[Lsta062]

What is ideal to me is picking up at least 1 KPD, 1 KPF (not a ruck-forward, but a genuine KPF), 1 ruck, and 3 ball-winning mids.

So, Josh Gibcus (KPD)
Jacob Van Rooyen (KPF)
Blake Schlensog (Ruck)
Ben Hobbs (Mid)
Neil Erasmus (Mid)
Matthew Roberts (Mid)

Simples right? Lol I should really temper my expectations

 

[cairo tiger]

What is ideal to me is picking up at least 1 KPD, 1 KPF (not a ruck-forward, but a genuine KPF), 1 ruck, and 3 ball-winning mids.

So, Josh Gibcus (KPD)
Jacob Van Rooyen (KPF)
Blake Schlensog (Ruck)
Ben Hobbs (Mid)
Neil Erasmus (Mid)
Matthew Roberts (Mid)

Simples right? Lol I should really temper my expectations

why do we need schlensog when we have soldo, ryan, namk and mate collina?

 

[Lsta062]

why do we need schlensog when we have soldo, ryan, namk and mate collina?

True, but we were left with none on the field this year. If not a ruck, then an extra KPD/KPF

 

[richard parker]

Can’t wait to draft a whole heap of kids we’ve not even talked about in this thread, as per usual

 

[Muddiemoose]

Can’t wait to draft a whole heap of kids we’ve not even talked about this thread, as per usual

OMG I CANT BELIEVE *will edit in name after the draft* SLID TO OUR PICK THEY ARE GONNA BE A SUPERSTAR

 

[bc27]

I vote for Josh Sinn at pick 7

pick 16 could be a handy pick for someone sliding outside the top 10.

 

[Toadvine]

My early prediction is we go Arlo Draper with our first pick.

No reason behind, just seems like the type we'd like.

 

[Tortured Tiger]

Most have Gibcus going top 10 and some even top 5
But the boys at Richmond have done well in the last 5/6 years so hopefully they are all over this which im sure they are

Exactly, if our recruiting team rank Gibcus as the best player at our pick then terrific bit if they don't then I hope they take the player they rate as the best available. If we have to wait until next year for a quality key position player then so be it.

 

[Infamy]

If Geelong bombs out of finals in straight sets can pick 16 come down as low as pick 13?

That depends if someone above Geelong (i.e. Melbourne) also goes out in straight sets, otherwise their higher H&A ladder position will have them finishing 5th.
This would result in us getting Pick 14

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

The last 3 pick 8s have been pre good

Offer Freo pick 7 for pick 8 & 27.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

I would rather trade Cj to the suns for #19 + #24 and package our 2 x 2nd rounders and 2 x 3rd rounders for the Pies 1st rounder in 2022

would give us #7 , # 17 (cats) , #19 , #24 in 2021
2 x 1st rounders in 2022 Pies/Tigers

We'll need 2 firsts next year for Green.

 

[Dr Tigris]

I hope we go n with a plan.

IMHO Most important thing is rebuilding the midfield for the next decade. With a very good midfield things are easy for everyone else. Without a dominant midfield it is so much harder for every one else. But there are more mids than any other position each year, so more to choose from.

Then picking long term KPs, whether forward or back. These guys anchor the team. Good KPs are rare year on year. So even if you value 2 players evenly but one is a top end KPs I'd tend toward the KP.

My conclusion is early on simply go best available, especially if they are that inside outside mid with leadership. But if a KP of equal talent is there early pick them.

This year is deep on those quality mids. Shallow for KPs. If Gibcus is that good then go him, otherwise don't reach, rebuild the midfield for the next decade.