List Mgmt. 2021 draft pool.

[Lore]

 

[YeOldTiger]

Yeah. I would steer clear. He’s an explosive athlete and relies on pace. A hamstring this soon into his career is a worry.


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If it was a ping then fair enough but it must have been serious to keep him out for 3 months. I feel for the kid. I guess it will come down to medicals. It might see him slide tho.

 

[sregit]

He mentioned potentially packaging up our first and the Geelong first rounder

He mentioned Packaging first or second with something else not both. Which clubs pick would we target?
Unless you get pick 2(GWS), you could still miss the player you want.

 

[YeOldTiger]

He mentioned Packaging first or second with something else not both. Which clubs pick would we target?
Unless you get pick 2(GWS), you could still miss the player you want.

In a perfect world the best player we could get would seemingly be the fourth ranked player. Daicos, Darcy and presumably Horne-Francis are all locked up. So who is so good that we'd be willing to lose our other first rounder for ? Or perhaps we package Geelong's first with one of our seconds to get up to around Pick 10-12 and get two gun mids ? Bang.

 

[YeOldTiger]

Personally I have it as

Gibcus
Amiss
Williams
Van Rooyen
Bazzo

Ideally if we could trade up into the late teens/early 20s by using the 2 x 3rd round picks and any compo we get for Chol to give us 5 picks inside 30 I'd target a haul of Sinn Chesser Amiss Williams & Van Rooyen. For mine if you add them to the under 100 games group we've currently got I believe it gives us a solid foundation for the next era of success and would then free us up to target the free agency/trade table from 2022 onwards as we see the older guys come to the end of their careers.

Imagine walking away with 3 of the best 5 KPP's in the draft ! There's your spine. Set the club up for a decade.

 

[smurfin]

The way I see the draft "tiers" at the moment - groups of midfielders, with KPP put in the gaps that could go anywhere:

Daicos Darcy (both unavailable)
Horne Callahan
Hobbs Ward Erasmus
Gibcus
Goater Roberts Sinn Rachele (our first pick this range)
Mac Andrew
Sonsie Johnson Draper ( Bulldogs pick around here if we get it)
Amiss
Chesser Wilmot Fahey-GWS Academy (our second pick this range)
Van Rooyen Williams
Butler Long MacDonald Tom Brown Nevitt Wanganeen Judson Clarke ( third pick this range)

(then pretty much everyone else in any order from here on)

 

[Hamsatma]

Sounds like we might try and trade up for a top 3-5 pick potentially going off what Clarke said

Unless we could get into the top 4 (post f/s) I wouldn't want to see us lose both first rounders. Draft seems to even off after daicos, horne-francis, darcy, callaghan

 

[HumanMeatball]

If we trade up there is really only 1 we go for. Callahan has it all I reckon

 

[avengers]

Gibcus to pair with balta in the backline for the next 10+ years would be up the top of my wish list!

 

[zakazano]

Imagine walking away with 3 of the best 5 KPP's in the draft ! There's your spine. Set the club up for a decade.

lock away three lists spots for long-term projects while it's the running players in need of reinvigoration? Yeah, not happening.

 

[Wrenny]

If we trade up there is really only 1 we go for. Callahan has it all I reckon

WATCH: Finn Callaghan shows off his silky skills

Finn Callaghan showed why he could potentially be an early pick in the 2021 NAB AFL Draft with some standout performances.

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Forcing his way into top 10 contention for this year's draft, 190cm midfielder Finn Callaghan was brilliant for Sandringham in their 48-point win against Eastern. Displaying freakish evasion through traffic, Callaghan amassed 31 disposals, 10 contested possessions, seven inside 50s, and four score assists. What was striking with Callaghan was whenever he had ball in hand, there was an immediate sense he was going to make something happen.

He has the speed and agility to move easily around or through opposition numbers, a sharp change of direction, a spin in traffic to avoid tackles, and a timely raise of the arms with ball in hand to avoid a tackle. Callaghan is one of those rare players who not only is quicker than everyone else, but also has more time with ball in hand than others display which makes him so unique and desirable for a player of his height.

At stoppages, Callaghan is more a receiver than a ball-winner, often receiving then bursting for 10 to 15 metres at a time before hitting a target by hand or foot. While Callaghan does his best work in traffic, he is similarly capable on the outside, and his work rate is impressive. In one play, Callaghan received the ball in his defensive 50, disposed of the ball, and worked his way up onto a wing to provide offensive run-on support.

Playing a similar game to Jack Macrae at a similar age, Callaghan will need to continue developing the contested side of his game and as a tackler if he's to reach similar heights, as there were a couple of occasions when he needed to be more aggressive in his attack both on the ball and ball carrier.

Finn Callaghan of the Sandringham Zebras runs with the ball.Morgan Hancock/Getty Images

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.es...es-top-10-chances-finn-callaghan?platform=amp

 

[YeOldTiger]

The way I see the draft "tiers" at the moment - groups of midfielders, with KPP put in the gaps that could go anywhere:

Daicos Darcy (both unavailable)
Horne Callahan
Hobbs Ward Erasmus
Gibcus
Goater Roberts Sinn Rachele (our first pick this range)
Mac Andrew
Sonsie Johnson Draper ( Bulldogs pick around here if we get it)
Amiss
Chesser Wilmot Fahey-GWS Academy (our second pick this range)
Van Rooyen Williams
Butler Long MacDonald Tom Brown Nevitt Wanganeen Judson Clarke ( third pick this range)

(then pretty much everyone else in any order from here on)

Nice summary...that's 30 players there...if Rhett Bazzo isn't inside the first 30 players picked we should pounce because he would be a steal.

 

[YeOldTiger]

lock away three lists spots for long-term projects while it's the running players in need of reinvigoration? Yeah, not happening.

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Yeh I was replying to a post where the poster selected two great running players with our first two picks THEN three KPPs. Maybe dont be so lazy and actually do your homework.

 

[YeOldTiger]

lock away three lists spots for long-term projects while it's the running players in need of reinvigoration? Yeah, not happening.

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Which selection of running players do you suggest are ready to walk into our side and reinvigorate us out of this draft then ?

 

[Disco_Stu]

LISTEN: Who's catching the eye of the Tigers at this year's draft?

The club's recruiting manager Matt Clarke joins the Road to the Draft podcast this week to detail the Tigers' draft plans and who is on Richmond's radar with its strong draft hand.

LISTEN: Who's catching the eye of the Tigers at this year's draft?

Richmond recruiting manager Matt Clarke joins the Road to the Draft podcast

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This week's episode guide…

1:00 – How does Richmond's drop down the ladder this season impact recruiting and list management decisions?


3:30 – A look at the start of the U19s national carnival and the standout players for Western Australia and South Australia.


7:30 – How does Clarke rate the 2021 draft pool?


11:15 – Richmond's plans with its No.7 pick and whether the club will look to push up the draft board.


13:50 – Which gun draftees are in the mix for the Tigers? The names to watch.


16:05 – Why Richmond has been pleasantly surprised with Maurice Rioli jnr's development and how long were the Tigers tracking Rhyan Mansell?


19:45 – The story behind Richmond drafting emerging superstar Shai Bolton

10

Shai Bolton

Age

27

Ht

176cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

12.7

3star

K

9.2

4star

HB

3.5

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.8

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

in 2016 and why he got through to pick No.29.


23:45 – Will Richmond be recruiting to challenge again next year? The lessons the Tigers are taking from previous dynasties.


26:40 – The latest on out-of-contract Tigers pair Callum Coleman-Jones

21

Callum Coleman-jones

Age

26

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

5.0

5star

G

0.0

1star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

5.0

5star

G

0.0

1star

and Mabior Chol

18

Mabior Chol

Age

28

Ht

200cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

5.3

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.8

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

2.3

2star

T

2.3

3star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.2

4star

.


27:00 – Are the Tigers interested in Adam Cerra?

 

[JR82]

Port had 5, 12 & 18
Essendon had 7,8,9

We have 7, maybe 16 or 17, and 26 - all getting pushed back at least 2 picks.
We should get 2 similar as a comparison, which is great, but they both had much better hands to play with.

We could have a crack at the Dogs 1st as they need pts which would give us a similar haul to Port

 

[JR82]

We have a habit of doing that. And we will know the player a week before the draft too

This was with Jackson in charge, this hasn't happened with Clarke.

 

[T4P]

This was with Jackson in charge, this hasn't happened with Clarke.

Ridiculous comment given its the same recruiting team. Don't understand the Jackson hate, the man basically drafted our dynasty. His last draft leading the team was our Shai Bolton pick.

 

[JR82]

Ridiculous comment given its the same recruiting team. Don't understand the Jackson hate, the man basically drafted our dynasty. His last draft leading the team was our Shai Bolton pick.

No hate at all, i am just pointing out that since Clarke took over we haven't known about who we are taking till it's announced on the night, which is exactly how it should be. Jackson was in charge when Conca was picked & we knew of that pick days in advance. I liked that Clarke didn't give anything away in his interview. Based on what he said it seems we'll take best available at 7 which i assume will be a mid. The rest is open depending on trade etc with all options to be looked at.

 

[bc27]

He mentioned Packaging first or second with something else not both. Which clubs pick would we target?
Unless you get pick 2(GWS), you could still miss the player you want.

They would be wanting to get to Hobbs or Callaghan before pick 7. Probably pick 2 GWS or Gold Coast pick 3.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

They would be wanting to get to Hobbs or Callaghan before pick 7. Probably pick 2 GWS or Gold Coast pick 3.

Only way i can see it getting done is if it involves CJ & pick 7.

 

[sregit]

Only way i can see it getting done is if it involves CJ & pick 7.

Pick 7 and CJ for pick 2. I'd do that in an instant.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Pick 7 and CJ for pick 2. I'd do that in an instant.

Think GWS are also interested in Cibcus.
Suns would be the more likely option(3)

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

No hate at all, i am just pointing out that since Clarke took over we haven't known about who we are taking till it's announced on the night, which is exactly how it should be. Jackson was in charge when Conca was picked & we knew of that pick days in advance. I liked that Clarke didn't give anything away in his interview. Based on what he said it seems we'll take best available at 7 which i assume will be a mid. The rest is open depending on trade etc with all options to be looked at.

We knew about Flossy and I think even Ellis...

 

[SumTingWong]

T71 said in his last podcast that we were after a mid and a defender with our earlier picks. Gibcus and ??

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

T71 said in his last podcast that we were after a mid and a defender with our earlier picks. Gibcus and ??

Cibcus be gone by pick 7.
(7)-Hobbs/Ward/Roberts
(15)-Van Rooyan/Williams/Bazzo