List Mgmt. 2021 draft pool.

[Lore]

 

[Sir_Loin]

I respect their knowledge. But I'd say that in drafting you are looking 5 years in advance. And then for us I reckon you are looking at midfielders early. Especially if they are inside and outside transition types.

We're OK for rucks for years. We've got 3 young KPDs, so replacing Astbury this draft isn't such a need. Replacing JR is a need over the next few years.

And yes, I suspect we are trying to trade into another first/early 20s, and maybe into 2022.

yeah not sure I agreed with the characterisation of Nank. He’s super important to the way we play and it’d hard to see him not being #1 for a few years yet

 

[tiger_tough]

Not as dynamic as the ones rated above him, but a type that recruiters get too fancy about usually and think he's at his peak. I really like him, Dimma likes blokes that can come in and impact straight away and he's a type that can. He also has two traits we love, he can run and he has good skills.

Sounds like someone we would be all over

 

[Lacustrus]

Roberts certainly isn't an athletic beast so I wouldn't be surprised if he drops down the rankings a bit.

yeah , Roberts is rubbish (am I doing it right?) ...

 

[4tune8]

If Freo can keep 6 & 8 they are taking Erasmas & Amiss they aren’t going to risk missing those guys to trade either pick back.

How many points a pick is worth means nothing to clubs without a player to match. It’s why the Dogs are the only club that may trade back their 1st for points (Pies don’t have picks to trade back ).

Would you trade back 7 for 28 + 40 + 44?

No, I wouldn't trade out pick 7.

My query though related to the fact that Freo don't have enough picks to cover their current list spots considering they are also likely to lose their 2nd rnd next year in trying to get Neale in.

 

[Dr Tigris]

yeah not sure I agreed with the characterisation of Nank. He’s super important to the way we play and it’d hard to see him not being #1 for a few years yet

I reckon the Soldo-Nank combo is one of the best in the league (please come back as good as before Ivan). So yeah, it seems a little like they really didn't know our list and somehow assumed our rucks are older, which they are not. And replacing Dave, well we've been doing that for the last few years already. Just hoping Miller steps up. Balta is already damn good.

But as an amateur draft watcher it must be hard to actually know about each team's list in any sort of depth. Unlike the professional media types who just don't have a clue, and it shows.

 

[Cotchy9]

Would Roberts be too big a reach at our first? Probably wouldn’t be there at our Geelong first rounder

 

[Maurice Mitchell]

Erasmus/Van Rooyen double will do me

Was going to say that I am looking forward to watching the second half of the WA vs SA game because there is so much Van Rooyen talk whereas I preferred the look of Bazzo. Then these other posts popped up straight after.

Bazzo voted BOG in the WA vs SA game

Hopefully he will be available at our 2nd round picks. He has slid down the rankings because of injuries this season.

So I’m not imagining things: he is a good prospect

 

[Sir_Loin]

I reckon the Soldo-Nank combo is one of the best in the league (please come back as good as before Ivan). So yeah, it seems a little like they really didn't know our list and somehow assumed our rucks are older, which they are not. And replacing Dave, well we've been doing that for the last few years already. Just hoping Miller steps up. Balta is already damn good.

But as an amateur draft watcher it must be hard to actually know about each team's list in any sort of depth. Unlike the professional media types who just don't have a clue, and it shows.

it’s hard to say who we will take with our first pick. Gibcus was mentioned if he gets past GCS I don’t know much about him and whether he’s that good a prospect as a key position player that you take him over a good mid

 

[YeOldTiger]

Roberts certainly isn't an athletic beast so I wouldn't be surprised if he drops down the rankings a bit.

He's a good player tho.

 

[YeOldTiger]

Roberts sounds very promising

Geez he looks and moves like Mathew Knights. If he's half as good...

 

[YeOldTiger]

Not as dynamic as the ones rated above him, but a type that recruiters get too fancy about usually and think he's at his peak. I really like him, Dimma likes blokes that can come in and impact straight away and he's a type that can. He also has two traits we love, he can run and he has good skills.

Got to agree. What you see is what you get. One paced but just a diesel engine that keeps winning the ball and directing traffic. If we got him and Mathew Johnson who is tall and creative and precise they would compliment us and add some variety imo. You can't beat ball winning mids.

 

[SumTingWong]

Not as dynamic as the ones rated above him, but a type that recruiters get too fancy about usually and think he's at his peak. I really like him, Dimma likes blokes that can come in and impact straight away and he's a type that can. He also has two traits we love, he can run and he has good skills.

From the one game I've seen him play he looks like a real tough nut too

 

[tigerfan1961]

Not as dynamic as the ones rated above him, but a type that recruiters get too fancy about usually and think he's at his peak. I really like him, Dimma likes blokes that can come in and impact straight away and he's a type that can. He also has two traits we love, he can run and he has good skills.

Dimma’s and I’d imagine our recruiters main want is for “transition mids”, like Dion. They’ve said it a number of times and hard to argue against. A mid that runs both ways all day is invaluable. It’s why our wings are Macca and Marlion, who both aren’t the best kicks in the side but run all day and are tough as.

 

[Hamsatma]

Would Roberts be too big a reach at our first? Probably wouldn’t be there at our Geelong first rounder

honestly this draft appears to be so all over the shop, if there's someone we like who likely won't be there at our next pick I don't think anyone's a reach

 

[Cotchy9]

honestly this draft appears to be so all over the shop, if there's someone we like who likely won't be there at our next pick I don't think anyone's a reach

The way Roberts reads, seems he’s as well credentialed as anyone outside that obvious top 3 anyway

 

[Tigerbob]

Would Roberts be too big a reach at our first? Probably wouldn’t be there at our Geelong first rounder

Some would say he is a reach but recruiters do rate him. As someone has said above, it’s so even this year, unless you are Horne-Francis or Callahan (Daicos and Darcy are not gettable) put a blanket over about 15 I reckon. Some will rank some high that others don’t. It’s that type of draft but also, don’t forget, we have seen limited amounts on a lot of these boys. Chances there could be a gun taken in the third or fourth round.

 

[Tigers Time]

At Pick 7 (or 9 after Daicos and Darcy) we will have a chance to get an elite AFL player. Under no circumstances do we give that pick up unless it's to trade for an earlier pick which I just cannot see happening.

I would rank this draft so even that at 7, we could get the best player in the draft. We need elite players to replace our aging stars, in particular the Cotchin's, Edwards ect.

Did you even read the post you replied too? Maybe reread because l in no way suggested we trade 7. So I don’t really need to be educated on the merits of keeping and using 7.

Still I agree with you on pick 7(9) being a must use at the draft. I almost wouldn’t trade it for anyone.

 

[Tomnat Tigers]

A couple of names I have heard that an opposition recruiting team believe we have strong interest in are Matthew Roberts and Dan Butlers brother, Sam Butler.

From what you know of the drafting game, what correlation is there between teams who interview prospects a number of times (4+) opposed to a couple times.

As for Roberts, in my limited viewings of him I get Dom Sheed type vibes.

 

[smurfin]

Would Roberts be too big a reach at our first? Probably wouldn’t be there at our Geelong first rounder

If Freo end up with both picks 6 & 8 we could live trade our pick 7 to West Coast for their pick 10 + future second?
Could be well worth it for them to jump up and grab some local WA talent between Freo's picks.
Roberts would still be there at 10.

 

[Wacky Tiger]

Would Roberts be too big a reach at our first? Probably wouldn’t be there at our Geelong first rounder

If we get Roberts I hope like hell they give him the nickname Relton

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

If we get Roberts I hope like hell they give him the nickname Relton

Ahhhh Relton what might have been...

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Someone with elite footskills would be handy.
Caleb Daniel

5

Caleb Daniel

Age

29

Ht

171cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

19.5

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

CL

1.0

3star

D

16.4

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.2

2star

won the game for the dogs with his foot.

 

[Tigerbob]

From what you know of the drafting game, what correlation is there between teams who interview prospects a number of times (4+) opposed to a couple times.

As for Roberts, in my limited viewings of him I get Dom Sheed type vibes.

Look each club is different in their approach. Some would want to interview a top target a number of times to triple check stuff. Other clubs rely on what they have seen and with different testing (mentally and physically) plus get more from interviews with teachers, friends, coaches etc.

The club I was involved with was the latter. Some clubs are easy to get an idea of what and whom they like. I don’t believe Richmond is one of them but, there are other ways to gather info.

Some recruiting managers would be able to predict the first three rounds off their knowledge of who likes who and piece it together. Some recruiting managers just focus on themselves and have their own ego they need to stroke.

 

[YeOldTiger]

Someone with elite footskills would be handy.
Caleb Daniel won the game for the dogs with his foot.

Josh Rachele is arguably the best kick in the draft from what I've read.

 

[Charlie Pannam]

If we get Roberts I hope like hell they give him the nickname Relton

Or “The Whale”